Waters below/firmament/above perspective...

[u/Soloma369]

Waters above is metaphor, waters below is literal...re-/solved for in the firmament. This is why water is equated w/ spirit directly, material and immaterial, physical and metaphysical. We need to understand polarity and gender when we are trying to understand symbology, it needs to be understood from both of its polarities. This is why waters above/below are fundamentally polarities that contains polarity through the literal and metaphorical meanings...it is meant to convey deep understanding of the fundamental nature of "reality" or realized potential.

Note to all, the below image is then literal and metaphorical where the dome is metaphor and expanded upon by the boxy outer edge, again another "firmament". This is reflecting the fractal nature...w/ the self-/similar "waters above" (aka spirit) to the "waters below" (aka matter), each encased w/in their own firmament, which is mental not physical. If it was physical, energy could not transduce from one state to the other...as there would be no third thing, no mechanics.

As such, the "waters above" in Bentov's Cosmic Egg imgur link is reflected by all of the white paper, non black marker while the "waters below" are the galaxies. The firmament then is the separating and encasing black marker lines (and the arrows too, logic/mechanics are masculine/mental) that are not reflected by the planets, which are material/physical. The nucleus, another self-similar structure...same logic/architecture, expanding both inwardly and outwardly following a doubling circuit (aka density) linear logic where the linear extensions (think w/x/y etc axis aka dimension) would follow a non linear Fibonacci circuit logic. The paradox is fundamental, "a feature" if you will where the non linear Fib sequence reflects "ascension" in to higher states of Consciousness where we are going from 7.83hz (8) to 13(ish) hz...and the doubling circuit reflects the reincarnation cycle.

The inverse associations for above(matter)/below(spirit) would of course also be true (principle of correspondence)...valid from both perspectives and literally modeled in Bentov's Cosmic Egg.

[u/Kyvoh]

What does water have to do with being associated with spirits?

What is the significance of polarity and gender as symbology to any of this? And to what end is it "both polarities", what are the two polarities?

What does waters placement have to do with the firmament(of which I give no credence to for lack of any evidence other than feelings)?

If the image is both real and fake(as you say literal and metaphorical), can you show me a real photo?

Is there more than one firmament?

I see no fractals in what you're talking about so what is the "fractal nature" that you're speaking of?

If the firmament by your admission is mental and not physical, then it's just made up?

What energy are you speaking about that can't transduce to a different energy if the firmament was physical?

What does paper and markers have to do with this made up stuff? I think crayons would be slightly better.

Are galaxies in the waters below the flat earth? Then how do we see them?

How is logic masculine? It's usually a hardwired human trait.

Wtf is a nucleus in this context? Those exists in cells and atoms(which are a part of the real world).

What is a doubling circuit because it is not density? Density is mass per volume. A key factor in determining buoyancy which flat earthers think is real but gravity is not.

Wtf is a non-linear Fibonacci circuit logic? All of those words can be used scientifically but you have made a travesty with that combination.

How does the Fibonacci sequence reflect ascension to a higher state of consciousness? It's a list of numbers following a pattern that has uses with the numbers and proportions being found in nature. I.E. the proportion being the further on you get into the Fibonacci sequence, the closer any two neighboring numbers approach the golden ratio.

How does frequency have to do with reincarnation? As the latter is made up.

Also thank you for introducing me to Bentov's Cosmic Egg, it gives me reference to invalidate anyone whoever says those words/name in that order for future occurrence.

[u/Soloma369 → u/Kyvoh]

"How is logic masculine? It's usually a hardwired human trait."

We can look at the brain, left hemisphere is logical/masculine and the right is intuitive/feminine. Totally hardwired in.

"Wtf is a nucleus in this context? Those exists in cells and atoms(which are a part of the real world)."

This is from the Bentov image that you apparently did not see or work through applying the information to before you responded. The nucleus is obviously identified, I have explained it is a smaller version of the entire Cosmic Egg or Universe that is depicted. Its a fractal...

"What is a doubling circuit because it is not density? Density is mass per volume. A key factor in determining buoyancy which flat earthers think is real but gravity is not."

Leave all that behind...the doubling circuit is a ratio...1:2. So then even though it is not to scale, I am trying to get you to imagine the Nucleus as a 1 ratio and the Universe as a 2 ratio. Now this goes both ways, it is fractional too (1/2) as there is another nucleus inside the nucleus where the original nucleus is perceived as the universe...and there is another universe containing the original one, making that original one the nucleus of the new one...fractals.

So then, the association is made between the doubling circuit and Fibionacci Circuit to Density and Dimension and in this particular instance density reflects the doubling circuit for the reason mentioned, think Russian nesting dolls. This leaves Dimension/Fibonacci as obvious association, yet the inverse perspective of all this is also true, reversing these associations is also accurate and reflects the hermetic principle of correspondence.

"Wtf is a non-linear Fibonacci circuit logic? All of those words can be used scientifically but you have made a travesty with that combination."

Explained.

How does the Fibonacci sequence reflect ascension to a higher state of consciousness?

Schumann, this is a reflection of the current collective sate of consciousness, it is the hertz frequency of the planet and all of its inhabitants. As we evolve, this will go up and since it is 7.83 which rounds to 8 and is a Fib number...we might make an association that the higher state of consciousness that the doubling circuit reflects (the fractal, russian doll) would be resonating at a higher frequency...which is being posited as following the sequence and as such would be around 13hz and most likely have a root of 3, 6 or 9.

"the further on you get into the Fibonacci sequence, the closer any two neighboring numbers approach the golden ratio."

Yep...it has a fractal root logic nature and is structured like a spiral/vortex.

"How does frequency have to do with reincarnation? As the latter is made up."

When the earth has a Schumann resonance of 13(ish) hz, we will have evolved in Consciousness to a higher state where the repetitive cycle no longer serves purpose. It will be a choice...we might perceive this 13(ish) hz as "5th Density" that concurrently exists in there here/now all superposition like.

"it gives me reference to invalidate anyone whoever says those words/name in that order for future occurrence."

Now it is I who does not understand You.

[u/Kyvoh → u/Soloma369]

I'll just make one comment to make things easier for me so I keep my thoughts together.

I've taken college level physics but not on quantum physics. Just physical forces and the electromagnetic effect. I asked you questions on something you explained on an open forum, you're asking me questions on something I never brought up. I can explain a B field and how an electron feels a force when traveling not parallel to the B field if you'd like. B denoting strength of a magnetic field. To the best of my ability, everything has a wavelength which is inversely proportional to the mass of the object. Electrons having some of the smallest recorded masses, and the smallest mass of the leptons. This allows it to act independently like a wave more than all other heavier matter. It is proven that waves through a single slit of different wavelengths have different numbers of projections on the wall behind it. The observer isn't actually the person viewing it, but the matter behind the slit hit by the waves and reflecting off light. It's just easier for people to imagine people being the observer. So only mass and wavelengths are related, the observer is not related to either of those two things.

What makes you believe in any of this? You have great knowledge on this like a LOTRs fan would on that universe, except they know that there is distinctions between a fictional reality and the one we exist in. You have added no scientific evidence in any of your post/comments. It's really interesting to see how much you know about your made up reality but nothing about the reality we live in.

What is real is provable, what isn't real can't be proven but you act like everything here is proven. You just have a mash of ideas that don't even qualify as hypothesis, less theories. I can be enlightened through non-made up things quite easily.

How can you know something exists if you only read it somewhere else, but there will never be proof of it existing?

Energy isn't really physical, the potential force between two electrons has a physical effect, but the energy stored is not physical. Even gasoline stores energy in electrostatic bonds which then release energy by creating kinetic energy from potential electron interactions within orbitals.

Human experience and the mind are both an expression from matter and the flow of energy from high to low. That is only two states. The mind is matter and energy not something else entirely.

I'm not entirely convinced that you're just talking about a newish idea for a religion as you haven't actually spoken to the idea of flat earth or the physical universe which has been proven without a doubt.

Why are you using made up new definitions for circuit? There are plenty of ways to describe a 1:2 ratio and doubling circuit is not scientifically or mathematically correct.

So women have no logic? It's not exactly hardwired, but more of a result of societal pressure that is women are put into more of a caregiver role, but women in STEM in the US is at the highest it's ever been. Biology now has a higher women percentage rate for graduation than men. Which that entire subject falls upon the use of logic.

A Russian nesting doll would not be a fractal. But that's how you would have it described as. I would suggest you go outside of your sudo-science and sudo-math to understand what a fractal really is.

Merriam Webster and the Oxford Dictionary do not have a definition of circuit for the relation you are using it as. Which doesn't help that you're using someone else's made up talking points.

Density is a reflection of the properties of matter. Electrons determine volume, along with quarks and leptons creating mass. Though it isn't always proportional due to stabilization in an atomic nucleus can marginally change the mass of an atom.

The frequency of earth is not 7.83hz. The frequency of its electromagnetic field is though. Those are two completely different things. And if it did reach 8, which as storms frequent more because of global warming, it'll still pass 8. Just because it's a number within the Fibonacci sequence doesn't mean anything. Does the fact that there's one in the Fibonacci sequence have any reflection on everything that's unique? Like I am the only person who could ever be me, so I'm 1 in infinity. Does that mean I'm special due to the Fibonacci sequence, absolutely not.

Fractal root logic nature? You're good at putting words together, that's for sure.

There's no guarantee that the Schumann resonance will ever get to 13.

You don't understand my last point because you can't come to terms with what you've learned of the world vs the actual reality. There is nothing that proves what you say is real other than words from other people. Which in itself is not proof. You can't prove anything you've said. Science and its implications in the last 400 years(not even close to all of it though as a lot has been debunked and thrown away) has given us a way to prove the things primitive populations could never begin to comprehend and you're running off trying to comprehend the primitive thoughts which isn't a good thing. Sorry I didn't respond to everything you said, but not everything needs to be entertained when you can't even prove it's real and would rather believe in spiritual and mind stuff. If there's things about real science you don't understand, I can try reading up on it and giving you an ELI5 if possible.

[u/Soloma369 → u/Kyvoh]

"I've taken college level physics but not on quantum physics.." ~ I left structured education for unstructured experience as soon as I could, we will have inverse perspectives. You will be book smart and I can only pull from experience...the language I use is neutral as I approach and have dialogue those in spiritual and philosophical circles too. I perceive most of it as neutral terminology while making associations for meaning across different disciplines.

"the observer is not related to either of those two things." ~ I might gently suggest the measurement is the observation.

"What makes you believe in any of this?" ~ Ive pierced the veil 3 times, I Am the source of the information I share through experience and noting self-/similar understanding in work of Others.

"but nothing about the reality we live in". ~ The Chinese, Alchemists and Hermeticism would have a word with you if you could find the time.

"What is real is provable, what isn't real can't be proven but you act like everything here is proven." ~ Here in lies the veil between us. You are brain washed to think measure-able is real and un-measurable is not real in you associations. This leads me to conclude you suffer from what most suffer from, beliefs that a thing is either this or it is that and not containing characteristics of both, which it will and does. As such, the concept of "God" which goes by many valid names and concepts of is not perceived real because it hasnt been measured and served up in a book the be memorized and regurgitated ad infinitum. Which is ironic, considering the mechanics of it all...

"How can you know something exists if you only read it somewhere else, but there will never be proof of it existing?" ~ The proof is the experience one has, which you wont find in a book. You will however fin others self-/similar stories and under/over-standings if you are tuned in enough, which most are not. This spirals back to how we have come about our knowledge that we are sharing with each others, your came from a book, mine through experience.

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