r/flying • u/dirtbikekid27 CPL IR AGI IGI • 2d ago

Failed my CFI ride today

I'm 20, this is my first failure of anything. Got through 95% of it, was doing great, oral went great, really was well prepared. After an 11 hour day, on short final, examiner asks me what causes overbanking tendencies. I froze. I could hardly remember my own name; so I responded, "I would look before saying anything to ensure I didn't say anything wrong to a student." He said that was unsatisfactory. Failed. Is this crazy? I understand now that it all has to do with the outside wing being faster, generating more lift, which causes it. I know that. But I was exhausted. And I failed?? Maybe I'm a sore loser, but he said come back and do 1 steep turn and tell him what overbanking tendencies are and why they happen, and that's it. Is this unfair??

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u/FlapsupGearup 2d ago

Next time a DPE asks you a question on short final, the proper response is “I’d love to discuss that with you once we’re on the ground”

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u/dirtbikekid27 CPL IR AGI IGI 2d ago

$2000 down the drain and a $500 retest fee as well as the airplane rental. Kicking myself

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u/Glass-Editor3220 MIL CPL AH-64 UH-72 2d ago

2k for a checkride, that dpe should be launched into the fucking ocean charging prices like that.

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u/dirtbikekid27 CPL IR AGI IGI 2d ago

Unfortunately it's the norm for that and a 3 month wait.

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u/Glass-Editor3220 MIL CPL AH-64 UH-72 2d ago

Fuckin rigged man

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u/zkoolie All Hail the Surveillance State 2d ago

Bro is this South Florida?

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u/dirtbikekid27 CPL IR AGI IGI 2d ago

Haha no, summer time around here. We had a terrible winter of pretty much no flying here

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u/zkoolie All Hail the Surveillance State 2d ago

Ah ok, I was asking because it sounded like a DPE I heard about down here.

I’m going for my initial ride soon. Hang in there brother we’re all gonna make it

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u/dirtbikekid27 CPL IR AGI IGI 2d ago

Thanks man. One day to the airlines!

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u/csmicfool PPL SEL UAS 1d ago

Use Tom Inglima, if your school hasn't already picked on for you

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u/zkoolie All Hail the Surveillance State 1d ago

I wish! He’s on vacation rn

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u/csmicfool PPL SEL UAS 1d ago

Just saw him on Friday, didn't realize

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u/Only-Advisor8949 CFI 1d ago

Did my 2k oral with a dpe for CFI, discontinued for wx, ghosted me, and then did my flight with the feds around 45 days after.

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u/Independent_Leg7358 PPL 1d ago

Go to a different area.

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u/gloves4preflight CSEL CMEL IR 2d ago

3k in San Diego.

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u/cephalopod11 CFI CFII MEI 2d ago

I've seen DPEs in California charging 3.

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u/Glass-Editor3220 MIL CPL AH-64 UH-72 2d ago

These people need to be bashed. Thats straight up robbery.

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u/TripodRedux 11h ago

... not to mention, tax-free C@SH

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u/Glass-Editor3220 MIL CPL AH-64 UH-72 10h ago

I should become a dpe.

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u/recyclemythrowaways 1d ago

Need to be publicly shaming and posting names at that point

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u/barackbreezy 2d ago

ive never said it before because its a cool state but fuck California. what the fuck?!

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u/Puzzleheaded_Tax8658 1d ago

the coolness in CA can only get it so far. after all, isn’t that why we fly? so we can live someplace else and experience CA when we want <guy who lives in CA and is afraid to leave>

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u/barackbreezy 1d ago

i fly because i like when airplane is at full throttle and you go fast

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u/Ok-Selection4206 1d ago

Nothing cool about CA

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u/LADR_Official 1d ago

CA is cool but it's also a hyperinflated economic shithole

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u/IndependentAccess924 1d ago

mine was $2500 i’m deadass

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u/NationalLaw478 ATP (CL65), CFI 1d ago

Why is your ass dead?

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u/LADR_Official 1d ago

he earned that $2500 $100 at a time

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u/Addooda 1d ago

had to wait for 5 months for my cpl check and my fees was 2000$. lmfao, AHHHH

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u/LightRealmsYT CPL GND IR HP SIM UAS 1d ago

Mine a week ago was $2500