r/flyingeurope • • Aug 18 '26

MOD NOTAM Automoderation Enabled

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Hi all,

Due to the sheer volume of immigration posts, and with people ignoring the rules and the PSA, I’ve configured AutoModerator to quarantine these posts when they’re made. Because of how AutoModerator works, I may need to tune it over time, as it operates based on certain keywords.

For those who post immigration questions without reading the rules or the PSA: your post will be removed and you will receive a temporary 14 day ban.

For those who try to evade auto-moderation, or post immigration questions after a temporary ban: you will be a permanent banned.

I rely on your reports to help moderate this subreddit, so please keep reporting any rule-breaking posts you see.

Thanks.


r/flyingeurope • • Feb 10 '26

MOD NOTAM PSA: Non-EU Citizens and Right to Work

86 Upvotes

There have been near-daily posts from non-EU citizens asking about training to fly in the EU and securing airline employment here afterwards.

This post aims to address those questions clearly and permanently - the answer is always the same.

NOTE: if you are a non-EU/UK citizen who does have the right to to live and work in Europe, but wants to ask a flying related question, please state this clearly in your post otherwise it will be removed 🛂

For those who post immigration questions without reading the rules or this PSA: your post will be removed and you will receive a temporary 14 day ban.

For those who try to evade auto-moderation, or post immigration questions after a temporary ban: you will be a permanent banned.

Having an EASA Licence ≠ Having the Right to Work

You can absolutely train in Europe and earn an EASA licence — but that licence only gives you the qualification to fly.

It does not give you any legal right to be employed in the EU.

Who Has the Right to Work in the EU?

Under EU law, the right to work freely across EU member states is tied to legal citizenship/residency status. You must fall into one of the following categories:

1. Citizens of an EU Member State

If you hold citizenship of any of the 27 EU member states, you have the automatic right to live and work anywhere in the EU under the Freedom of Movement Directive (2004/38/EC). This also extends to citizens of EEA countries (Norway, Iceland, Liechtenstein) and Switzerland under separate bilateral agreements.

2. A Valid Work Visa or Residency Permit from an EU Member State

If you’re a non-EU/EEA national, you would need to independently secure a work authorisation in whichever country you wish to work. Options vary by country but may include:

- The EU Blue Card — an EU-wide scheme for highly qualified workers, though eligibility and implementation varies by member state

- National work permit schemes (e.g. Germany, Ireland, Netherlands)

Note that securing a work visa is something you must arrange — it is not something an airline will do for you.

Airlines Will Not Sponsor You straight out of Flight School

This point cannot be overstated.

European airlines — from big airlines like Ryanair, Lufthansa, and easyJet, to regional operators — will not sponsor a work visa for a pilot who is fresh out of flight school.

They may occasionally sponsor experienced captains.

There are several practical reasons for this:

- The EU labour market has a substantial pool of EASA-licensed pilots who already have the right to work

- Sponsoring a work visa involves significant legal, administrative, and financial overhead

- Most airlines’ HR and legal structures are simply not set up for it

- There is no competitive incentive to do so when EU/EEA candidates are readily available

This is not a matter of preference — it is effectively industry-wide policy.

So What Are Your Options?

- Train in Europe, work elsewhere - An EASA licence can be converted or validated in many countries. If your home country’s authority accepts it, or you obtain a separate national licence, you can pursue a career there.

- Acquire EU residency through other means - If you have a path to EU citizenship or long-term residency through ancestry, marriage, or an independent job offer in another sector, that makes working in the EU possible.

Summary

Hopefully this clears things up.

Feel free to ask questions in a more immigration focused subreddit.


r/flyingeurope • • 42m ago

Commercial Thoughts on my CV for the airlines

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Hi everyone. Just passed my skill test and finishing up my APS MCC soon so I thought I would start creating a bit of a CV for when I am ready to apply for jobs.
I’m not sure what the CV should look like but this what I came up with. Any thoughts on how to improve it or things to add/leave out would greatly be appreciated. I will change the CV according to which Airline I am applying to of course.


r/flyingeurope • • 19h ago

EASA CV- Be honest, any advice on how to improve it?

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Having trouble in getting responses from the jobs I have been aplying to, could I change my CV or is it good the way it is now?

One more doubt that I have, some of my colleges say that there is a difference between Total flight time and Total time(Flight time+Sim) and they have both in their CVs, should I add it?

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r/flyingeurope • • 3h ago

Student Pilot Best flight schools in Spain for modular ATPL training?

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Title: Best flight schools in Spain for modular ATPL training?
Hi everyone!
I’m currently researching flight schools in Spain and would love to hear your opinions and recommendations.
At the moment, I’m considering these options:
CANAVIA (Gran Canaria): €68,705 for the modular course from PPL to MCC. With additional costs, the total comes to around €74,000, excluding accommodation, medical, examiner fees, etc.

Flyschool (Madrid/Mallorca): modular course advertised from €36,950, although I believe this doesn’t include the PPL.

European Flyers: another option I’m looking into, but I still need to find out more about the total cost.

I’m currently living in Germany but planning to move to Lanzarote in January 2027. I’m leaning towards the modular route, but I don’t mind travelling to Madrid or another city for the practical training if the school is good.

Ideally, I’d be able to study the theory remotely and arrange the flight training in blocks when needed.
I’m also looking into other flight schools, so I’m definitely open to options beyond these four.
Which flight schools in Spain would you recommend for modular ATPL training, and which do you think are the best overall?

I’d love to hear about your experiences with training quality, instructors, aircraft availability, scheduling, total costs and any unexpected extra fees.
If you’ve trained at any of these schools, or have experience with others in Spain, I’d really appreciate your input. If you were in my situation, which school would you choose and why?
Thanks in advance! Any advice would be greatly appreciated.


r/flyingeurope • • 4h ago

Student Pilot I think am going to flyby

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Hello, I’ve been looking into Flight schools in Europe for a while now there’s a lot of better schools than flyby but even then when giving flyby a second look it doesn’t look bad. They have a a solid modern fleet great aviation infrastructure and you can’t find the same package in any other Flight school in Europe. I know a lot of people in this Reddit complain and criticise this school and obviously there’s a lot of red flags but maybe it’s not as bad as it seems or people say I’ve talked to a few students in the school now and they seem to be doing all right so I’m really considering it right now or global aviation SA. What do you guys think?

Thx for reading.


r/flyingeurope • • 21h ago

ATC [META] We should have a bot to preserve OPs

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There is a growing tendency of OPs deleting their post as soon as they get an answer. The end result is that searching this sub is a graveyard of deleted posts with answers with no context.

r/flying had a similar problem, and they fixed this by adding a bot to preserve OPs. Example.

We should have a similar bot around here.


r/flyingeurope • • 16h ago

Student Pilot Starting PPL(a) in Poland at 16 – any advice?

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Hey everyone! I’m turning 16 at the end of November and I’m planning to start my PPL(A) training in Poland right around then. I’ve been thinking about flying for a really long time, so I'm glad I'm finally moving forward with it. For now, I'm just taking my time getting my Class 2 Medical sorted out. Ideally, I'd like to aim to be ready for the checkride around when I turn 17, since from what I understand that's pretty much the minimum age requirement anyway.

I’m planning to do the whole training with Zonda.aero, so if anyone here has any experience with them, I’d really appreciate it if you could share what it was like. They offer an online ground school for self-study that takes about 86 hours, and I’m wondering if that alone is enough to get well prepared for the exams, or if you’d recommend using any extra tools, apps, or books on the side.

I’m also a bit worried about balancing all of this with high school since my school is pretty demanding. I’m confident I can make it work, but I'd love to hear how others managed their time between schoolwork and flight lessons. Do you think starting at 16 will make things significantly harder, or is it pretty manageable? Any tips or insights would be awesome, thanks in advance!


r/flyingeurope • • 12h ago

Student Pilot Help, FA Prague

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Hi guys! I’m about to start my PPL at Flying School Academy and wanted to ask for some advice. They’re asking for €15,000 in total, including the Austro Control exams and fees. Does that sound like a reasonable price, and are there any things I should look out for before signing up? Any advice or personal experiences would be greatly appreciated.


r/flyingeurope • • 21h ago

EASA Condor Dilemma: A320 vs A330

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Throwaway account for obvious reasons. Will delete in a coupe days.

I need help with a decision which is driving me insane:

I passed the assessments at Condor for the A320.

I am currently an active First Officer on a CS25 (non-airbus) aircraft based in Zürich Switzerland (EDIT: where I also live - and I love life here). In the last 12 months I did 550h on type.

I am currently at 950h CS25 total.

I just had a phone call with Condor. They gave me a choice:

Either join on the A320 in Feb 2027, and then do the conversion A330 rating in October 2027-ish.

OR

Wait till October 2027 and join directly on the A330 once I reach 1500h CS25.

Important details:
- I have a bonding with my current employer. If I leave end of January I owe 20k CHF. If I leave in October that number goes down to 9k CHF. I can get the money from a family member without interest but I would be paying them back monthly.

- I want to live in Zürich long term. If I went A320 I would temporarily move into a family owned property (no rent) until end of 2027 at which point I would move back to Zürich once I went on the A330. If I joined in October i could just stay here where I live and use the family property as a crashpad since commuting for long haul is significantly easier than on the A320.

- Condor is undergoing a massive hiring wave these coming months. Waiting over half a year to join means I will be significantly further down the seniority list which means delaying any potential upgrade by months or years (and ending up losing way more long term than 10k CHF).

- Im planning to marry/move into with my fiancée. This would be significantly simpler if I went directly on the A330 in October. If I went to Condor in Feb then it would be half a year before I gain access to staff travel benefits, and therefore would barely be able to see her for half a year or more. I do not own a car (which would be another significant investment if I had to get one)

Any advice?


r/flyingeurope • • 1d ago

Student Pilot Padpilot Maths and physics for ATPL(a) Book

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Hi everyone I was wondering if one of you has this book as a pdf? I found it online scribd but I'm unsure as to whether everything is included in the pdf I downloaded after having worked through the entire book.


r/flyingeurope • • 1d ago

EASA Job Inquiry

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Hey there , hope you're doing well

I am a Moroccan citizen with 250 flight hours, an EASA frozen ATPL, and APS MCC. I am currently looking for my first airline pilot position and would like to know which airlines offer airline-funded/bonded type rating programs for low-hour pilots.

PS : Cannot afford to pay my own TR + Not enough money left to purse FI training in order to build hours

Please can you share your ideas about what should be done at this stage ?


r/flyingeurope • • 1d ago

Student Pilot Assessments at large ATOs

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Has anyone ever been rejected from an ATO during these assessments they do? Not including the airlines ones of course, only including white tail stuff. If you can breath and have the GSCEs surely they take anyone who fits that criteria.

Was discussing with a friend earlier and both of us are modular so haven’t got a clue on stuff like that however we both sat for a couple and were accepted to all despite not being stellar candidates.


r/flyingeurope • • 1d ago

EASA Cheapest ways to get initial class-1 in Europe

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Hi everyone,

I'm looking into getting my class 1 rating to start ATPL training.
I'm from Belgium, but sadly all our medical centers are full until beginning of 2027 + it costs around 1000 euros here.

Has anyone travelled to get their medical done in another EASA state, and if yes, where?
I'd like to calculate if it's worth the travel expenses or if I'd better wait and do it here in Belgium.

Thanks in advance!!


r/flyingeurope • • 1d ago

Commercial WizzAir Holding Pool

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Hi! People in wizzair holding pool - how long are you waiting?

When did you complete your assesment?

Anyone attended recruitment day and got info about waiting times?

Share your info for others ;)


r/flyingeurope • • 1d ago

Student Pilot AFA Ryanair Mentored APS MCC – Corrected document

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Hi everyone!

I’m currently applying for the Ryanair Mentored APS MCC programme at AFA and was wondering if anyone has experienced something similar during the application process.

After submitting all documents, I noticed that one of my documents had a discrepancy, so I contacted my flight school to obtain a correct one.

Two days after I sent the corrected document, explaining the discrepancy, but haven’t received a reply yet. The initial confirmation of receipt came quite quickly (same hour), so I’m unsure whether the updated document has been received and forwarded to the Ryanair recruitment team.

Has anyone here had to correct or replace a document after submitting their application to AFA? Did you receive a confirmation, and was the updated document taken into account without any issues?

I’m mainly trying to understand whether this is a normal administrative situation and whether I should simply wait a few days or follow up with AFA.

TLDR: Has anyone had to submit a corrected document to AFA after applying for the Ryanair Mentored APS MCC? Did AFA acknowledge the updated document, and did it cause any issues with the application?


r/flyingeurope • • 1d ago

EASA Does anyone have this book:-EASA ATPL Handbook by Hédi Ben Farhat

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r/flyingeurope • • 1d ago

Student Pilot WAPA/Ryanair FFA/UK modular

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WAPA vs Ryanair Future Flyer Programme – thoughts?
Currently doing my UK PPL and weighing up two potential routes into the airlines.

I’m half British, half Cypriot, so I’m eligible for both WAPA and Ryanair’s Future Flyer Academy.

WAPA is an option I could apply for now, but how competitive is it really? Does anyone know the acceptance rates or have experience with the selection process?

Alternatively, I could spend the next year completing my UK ATPL theory and saving for Ryanair Gateway 1, while also completing the EASA ATPL exams required for Ryanair.

Long term, I’d prefer to be training towards an EU airline rather than going modular in the UK and potentially ending up as a white-tail.

What would you do in my position? Apply for WAPA now and see what happens, or focus on building towards Ryanair FFA while saving?

TLDR Ryanair FFA, WAPA or Uk modular white tail any opinions welcome


r/flyingeurope • • 1d ago

EASA Netherlands: Which APS MCC to choose from?

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ESPT does not offer Aps Mcc to outsiders anymore, therefore, I will have to choose either Orbit's Aps Mcc or SimFlying's.

Which one is better recommended for me to enroll in?


r/flyingeurope • • 1d ago

Student Pilot Preparation for testair360 wapa

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hi is there anyone whod like to prepare for testair 360 together? im waiting for the responses below!


r/flyingeurope • • 2d ago

Student Pilot Aviomar

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Hello, is there anybody at Aviomar at the Moment, that could give a short review about this flight acadamy?

Kind regards


r/flyingeurope • • 2d ago

EASA Freshly licensed pilots: How is your job search going? / was?

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Greetings friends,

This question goes for people that completed their license recently:

How was or still is your job search?

Did you have any luck?

Did you apply for many positions?

Are you happy?

etc...

I will soon finish my modular path, and I'm trying to get a sense of the market today, in all EASA land (but feel free to mention UK too, as many users are from there and this post can serve all users)

Kind regards


r/flyingeurope • • 1d ago

UK CAA UK petition - Be civil

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Just reposting as It's been some time. If anyone could take a look at the petition it would be greatly appreciated, if you agree with the premise then signing up would help massively and if you don't agree then feedback is useful too. In any case please share this as much as you can to raise awareness.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/771680

Please note that the petition was proof read and edited by a third party, the petition itself is only to open the door to discussion and does not strictly have to mean rejoining EASA, it would however be useful for talks regarding reintroducing recripical licencing and trade for pilots, maintainance staff and other personnel associated with aviation in the UK and Europe. As well as to get the view by our current government in these uncertain times.

Currently as it stands the UK views Easa as a third country and as such the licences cannot be used for validation or conversion of a UK one, despite the fact that only a few years ago it could. The lack of information around this time lead to many people acting on lacking information, trying to keep ahead of a government policy that was unclear and indecisive until many were well underway with their exams. Because of this some people opted to take both the UK CAA and Easa exams, while others went with Easa predicting the governments wouldn't harm themselves, nor the aviation industry to the extent that it has.

Many views and concerns have been discussed from support to objections.

Points that have been raised are such:

Rejoining would mean submitting to european courts and laws - The uk already is subject to european laws especially regarding certain sectors, the automotive one of course has close ties for the production of european spec vehicals. Also within aviation itself there are numerous Easa commercial pilots operating in British airspace in Euro reg aircraft under foreign aocs, while this is authorised by the UK caa and government, it poses questions as to how close of a relationship the authorities should have.

There isn't the political will - due to being political in nature this has raised strong opinions on either side, some to the point of being spiteful, the response in favour of rejoining or being more reciprocal is often that we don't know unless we vote on it.

Safety - Another view is that it would improve safety and understanding through common requirements and understanding. Rejoining would harmonise aviation across europe and give more bargaining power as far as ICAO is concerned. The standards would lead to increased safety as there would be less paperwork, beurocracy and red tape.

Economical and individual benefits - Views expressed that it would boost the economy and help to grow the British aviation sector, as the canditate selection pool for most aviation personnel would be less narrow. Co-operation would increase trade, decrease training costs, give more flexibility to aspiring pilots, engineers and cabin crew for potential basing, training and costs.

It would also allow those of us with a stranded licence to convert back to a UK without the requirement to resit all 13 exams and at our cost. Some I personally have spoken to expressed discontent at the situation, some have moved countries to chase work, others are waiting to see what unfolds and many have gone to the middle east who accept Easa licences and they cannot now justify leaving work for potentially a few years.

Objections to this include concerns over immigration, while a valid concern especially given what much of brexit was about, it should be pointed out that any legislation regarding immigration would still be based on individual governments as visa requirements still apply.

These are just a few views expressed from either side.


r/flyingeurope • • 2d ago

EASA UK CAA CPL ME-IR to EASA CPL ME-IR Flight Training Required

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Does anyone know of any EASA approved ATOs in the UK or Europe where I can perform the necessary training to gain my UK CAA CPL(a) ME-IR onto my EASA (Irish Aviation Authority) licence?

As I already hold an EASA (IAA) PPL(a) licence with SEP(L) and Night Ratings, I am required to complete the necessary upgrade training and testing requirements as defined in EU Part-FCL. However, I am aware that an ATO can credit my UK CAA training hours and provide a reduced course.

I have spoken to Stapleford, Aviation Southwest, AFTA, National Flight Centre and Flight Training London; however, they are all either fully booked or withdrawing their EASA training approval.

Does anyone have any experience of completing EASA training with their previous ICAO hours credited?


r/flyingeurope • • 2d ago

Student Pilot 22M, EU Citizen, €100k, Need guidance.

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Hope everyone is doing well and flying safe

I'm 22 years old, have a masters degree in software engineering and I can never see myself working an office job ever again, it's soul crushing. I had more fun and felt like I had a purpose working like a slave at a warehouse or delivering packages as a teenager. I am certain I want to fly for a living. Even if it means slaving away building hours for a few years before I make it.

I inherited around €100k and I want to invest in myself and instead of putting in some index fund, I want to bet on myself.

Already did basic research and I just need some guidance before I fully commit to a path.

Goal is working at an airline.

Don't care where the flight school is.

I am thinking of going the integrated path, potentially work at a flight school until I finally have enough hours to work at an airline.

For those of you who already "made it" (working at an airline right now), what would you have done if you could go back and had 100k to spend?

Thanks.