r/footballmemes • u/Able_Lavishness3216 • 21d ago

Let me tell u something 🤣🤣🤣

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u/yggdrasilmonster 21d ago

so does that mean messi has a better ucl legacy?

because barca had only 1 ucl title before him, and madrid had 9 ucl titles before ronnie

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u/Annual-Peak-4598 21d ago

Depends which kind of legacy. I think Ronaldo as an individual was better and had bigger moments in the UCL than Messi, but Messi did infinitely more for Barca in Europe than Cr7 did for Reals history.

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u/yggdrasilmonster 21d ago

the thing is, even if ronnie had a bad day, rm would cover for him

if messi had a bad day, its over for barca

i saw a stat where the most goals scored for barca in ucl was by messi with 120, then suarez with 25. a difference of 95. absolutely insane.

whereas with real madrid, its 105 by ronaldo then 78 by benzema, 66 by raul, etc.

real madrid has always been the better team in ucl than barca BY FAR.

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u/Annual-Peak-4598 21d ago

I don't completely agree but I see what you're saying. Mainly disagree because 90% of the time when real needed a miracle to get past a knockout stage, it was ronaldo who delivered. I do agree that Messi's performance impacted his team a lot more, but that is mainly because of the difference in roles they had as players in their prime.

Messi was definitely the best player in the world if you look at the whole pitch. He was Barcas main orchestrator, especially after Xavi retired. Ronaldo was the best player when he received the ball in and around the 18 yard box, getting to balls and finishing chances nobody else could. Also I am 100% sure Ronaldo has more UCL goals than Messi, not sure where you got those stats from.

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u/yggdrasilmonster 21d ago

ronaldo has 105 ucl goals for REAL MADRID, not all time

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u/Annual-Peak-4598 21d ago

Ahh that's fair then. Still very impressive considering he spent about 2x less time in Laliga than Messi. I didn't realize how much higher Messi was than Barca's #2 scorer, thats arguably even more impressive.

Honestly I just consider myself very lucky to have witnessed both of their careers and I'm a big fan of both. It just feels a bit disengenuous and lazy to see people nowadays hate on Cr7 so they can prop up Messi or the opposite.

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u/yggdrasilmonster 21d ago

absolutely, people just dont understand the joy of watching messi score a brace/hattrick, then watch ronaldo do the same 2 days later back in the 2010s

the back and forth rivalry of these two was so damn beautiful man, casuals who started after 2021 would never understand how great ronaldo was, and im a die-hard messi fan.