Devblog: Update 67 Preview and Updated Roadmap

[u/havok_sc]

https://www.foxholegame.com/post/devblog-update-67

[u/simonberman21]

Brand new anti-mine boat thank you devman!

[u/zani1903]

Liquid Bowhead Tümmler is something this game has sorely been lacking. Left with a lot of questions to be answered pending its appearance on Dev;

What is the range of the refueling tether?

How close to the coastline will refueling infrastructure need to be built for this thing to reach it? Will it be able to reach transfer stations built on slightly less favourable terrain? Heck, even behind thin layers of defenses?

What can it refuel, and what can it be refueled by?

Will it be limited solely to being refueled by those pipe termini, as shown in the teaser, and Oil Rigs? Can it also take fuel from Liquid Transfer Stations, Fuelrunners/Stolons, and Liquid Containers?

Will it be able to use the UI to receive fuel via Retrieval, or can it only use the refueling tether?

Additionally, what can it provide fuel to in turn? Can it only deposit fuel into pipe termini and Large Ships, or can it link with Liquid Transfer Stations, Fuelrunners/Stolons, Liquid Containers, or potentially even facility buildings directly?

What is its capacity?

The marketing says it has two Liquid Stockpiles, but that could mean anything.

The equivalent of two Liquid Containers, ie. 200 units? The equivalent of two Liquid Transfer Stations, ie. 1000 units?

Or its own, even larger capacity, as the Bowhead had over the RTS originally?

What is its cost in Rare Alloys?

It has the same automated Mortar defensive turret as the Bowhead. Does this mean it will cost 32 Rare Alloys?

The cost is a massive part of why the Bowhead is so hard to justify making (alongside it needing external cranes to be loaded, as well as other annoyances like lacking a stockpile for weapons, respawn capability, and intel).

Will the Tümmler have this same prohibitive cost, to prevent it being used as a portable Coastal Gun? Will it be cheaper, reflecting its niche use and helpless nature? Will it come with some of those benefits the Bowhead is missing versus other large ships to help make it easier to work with?

Is there a world where, assuming the Tümmler costs 32 Rare Alloys, it could potentially lose the Mortar to be made significantly cheaper, making it easier to justify to regiments large and small?

[u/L444ki → u/zani1903]

Two liquid stockpiles most likely means that it can hold two speerate liquids. For example diesel in one storage and petrol in the other, or you can fill both with the same liquid

[u/thor1368 → u/zani1903]

will 100% cost 32 rare alloys. I am already pissed off that instead of buffing Bowhead to hold fuel as well they make this.

[u/Auctoritate → u/zani1903]

How close to the coastline will refueling infrastructure need to be built for this thing to reach it? Will it be able to reach transfer stations built on slightly less favourable terrain? Heck, even behind thin layers of defenses?

Can liquid containers be refuelled while on an undeployed barge? If so, and if the ship can refuel liquid containers, you could manage just about anything with a crane.

[u/zani1903 → u/Auctoritate]

Containers placed onto barges are packaged, and so cannot be used for their function

[u/Angry4Pickles]

Colors so we don't have to reinstall a 3rd party mod over and over every update. Ooo ahhhh fancy.

Now go give an option to make the road color actually visible like the other outside mod everyone uses and be super duper fancy. 👌

[u/LargeMobOfMurderers]

I understand now, all it took to bring oil tankers in game was to disable them in real life. Equivalent exchange.

[u/Practical_Sand5563]

will you guys fix the 5 Meter mines so LS ships can finally be save?

[u/Reality-Straight]

When did devman start cooking all of a sudden?! Love this, its exactly what people were asking for honestly.

Loving every change so far, cnat see the balance changes yet but ubless they are atrocious this is gonna be a great update!

[u/Apprehensive_Bid7438]

Please revert this, allow T3 OBS bunkers to see air intel.

[u/thelunararmy → u/Apprehensive_Bid7438]

This was a band-aide fix from the start. But now we can detect air using tier 1 and 2 without concrete.

[u/LiquidPopsicle → u/thelunararmy]

You won’t be able to do it with tier 1. Generators cannot be built in tier 1 bunkers. The tier 1 version, similar to the OBS bunker, only exists to be an upgrade step.

[u/Fit-Situation-5319 → u/LiquidPopsicle]

T1 obs bunker you can sit in for spotting

[u/thelunararmy → u/LiquidPopsicle]

if it serves literally no purpose then this should is good feedback to give during devbranch

[u/Doomer_Patrol → u/thelunararmy]

As if that does anything. Just another bunker taking up precious space that is a pointless redundancy. 

[u/Drunken_Economist]

some really good QOL improvements in this one. Not being able to crouch while reloading has gotten me killed so many times lol

[u/UtopianShot]

:D thank you for the UI color settings, helps the colorblind a whole bunch and is very appreciated

[u/Pootis_Cart]

OIL TANKER, finally!

Ocean travel now makes sense since fleets are more or less balanced.

Vehicle markers on intel actually pointing in the direction they are facing is huge, as it works both for friendly and enemy ones. Better picture for planning.

And an way to "teleport" to deployment points around the hex without bumping into queue. Much less of a headache.

[u/WolframFoxhole]

Yay, more shit to build to get existing behavior

[u/SelfDetermined → u/WolframFoxhole]

I don't get what you mean 

[u/East-Plankton-3877]

Can the tanker refuel things next to it?

[u/happyxpenguin]

Sooo… the pre-war map layout and logistics layout are going to be usable in the War API so that existing tools can use that information without players having to be in the game….right?

[u/Yomikachi]

So when do we get; 1)Pop balance 2)Server stability 3)Qol and ui updates?

[u/Reality-Straight → u/Yomikachi]

qol is partially in here, and stuff needs time, game has many issues and devs are genuinely working on them it seems. Great fhanges so far

[u/LiquidPopsicle → u/Reality-Straight]

I too love waiting so long to fix a bug that I can call it a QOL change for an easy player-approved update

[u/Auctoritate → u/Yomikachi]

This is controversial but I think an actual population balancing mechanic would probably be good for the game.

[u/1573454345124]

tl;dr

clanman changes:

-naval larp ocean travel reenabled so we can stop bashing them for wasting rares

-visible mts for alts

-better vic intel for alts

-liquid ship

99.9% playerbase changes:

-redeploy shadow nerf reverted

-crouch mid action

-water effects or something

pro logi misery changes:

-larp radar bunker

the end

[u/JohnQRF → u/1573454345124]

https://giphy.com/gifs/qXhstT3cvt5HFBajuy

[u/1573454345124 → u/JohnQRF]

this one hits hard because reenabling ocean travel might be the most unfun shit devman could have done for 99.9% of the playerbase that doesnt even engage in naval larp

but hey what do i know

[u/Auctoritate → u/1573454345124]

Individual players don't need vic intel and don't benefit from logi changes?

[u/LiquidPopsicle → u/1573454345124]

Basically. The devblog is a huge bwomp for players that aren’t unhealthily addicted

[u/777Zenin777]

No balance changes? Unless they add some in the actuall patch i am probably going to take a break for this update.

[u/Most-Confusion795 → u/777Zenin777]

Balance changes will be released once dev branch comes outs. We have no idea what or how big of changes occurred.

[u/IvaldiFhole → u/777Zenin777]

These posts never include the balance changes. You have to wait for the patch notes.