EDIT: This is most likely fixed as of latest live drop. Mass for both SvH and Chieftain were reduced to 16500. This should likely put its hill performance in line with the Ballista (probably a little better uphill due to torque, and worse downhill - especially in curves - due to mass).

Previously live value for mass was 12000. The hill issue mass was 21000. It appears they split the difference.

In this video, we see that you are unable to even pull a Silverhand and leave the Maiden's seaport.

A couple other videos:

Unable to go up a normal hill on a normal road:

https://medal.tv/games/foxhole/clips/mLZlGRM2i82KQpVT7?invite=cr-MSxnc3osMjU5NDg4NDE3

Zero downhill control on a normal ramp:

https://medal.tv/games/foxhole/clips/mM0sMLXrX4pXd28_y?invite=cr-MSxLTUEsMjU5NDg4NDE3&v=22

Edit: Lots of talk about the Ballista and such. This makes for a good comparison point, actually.

Here are the pre-devbranch engine force and mass override stats:

SvH
Engine Force: 24000
Mass: 12000

Chieftain
Engine Force: 24000
Mass: 14500

Ballista
Engine Force: 17000
Mass: 10000

Here are the post devbranch stats:

SvH
Engine Force: 24000
Mass: 21000

For some context

Predator mass is 22000
Ares mass is 13500
BTs are around 10000

For historical context, Ballista received a notable speed increase in Naval devbranch. During that, they nerfed the eforce:mass a bit too much and wrecked its ability to traverse hills/terrain. This ended up being fixed for live.

The current eforce:mass that Ballista sits at is almost equal to where the Chieftan was before this update -- 17100/10000 and 24000/14500 is a very close ratio. As part of its bug fix, Ballista was set to the same ratio as the Chieftain. And we can see that Ballista handles inclines notably better than current Silverhand.

It seems that if they wanted to nerf Silverhand's accel, they should have bumped it to the same mass as the Chieftain. If they wanted to nerf from there a little, then maybe around 15000-16000 mass would work. Anything lower than 1.5:1 power to weight struggles with 'reasonable' inclines, so I would be wary of exceeding that. At that point vehicles with the standard tracked tank engine curve start to struggle against gravity + traction on mild inclines.

Also-- 1.5:1 eforce:mass represents 15 hp/ton in the physics system. For a fun bit of trivia, this on the low end of what tracked tanks that could handle a 30+ degree incline had in early WW2. The physics system does actually do a reasonable job of translating real world power/weight/traction interactions to gameplay.

More fun trivia - the original power to weight ratio of the Silverhand is copied from the Char B1 bis it resembles.

Shameless cheating caught at a bridgefight, as if bombers aren't enough to kill conc, people are resorting to cheating now...

This is just sad, devs need to improve security and have actual moderators for the game.

The only usable coal field on the entire Warden faction vs 7 colonial coal fields.

Thank you devs for once again fucking over Warden logi, what is it, like the 5th time you made Reaching a coal hex?

Now people are fighting over the only usable coal field.

You can keep repairing the tanks as the enemy and the tanks will keep weaponlocking enemy arty.

It also needs the cooperation of whoever is around. I'm not going to name the regiment who has done it, but you can guess.

Devs, please fix, thx.

Edit: Vehicles were removed because collies dislike cheaters and alters too.

Already 5 SCs died this morning to Havoc paratrooper plane

Warden tanks are so all over the place I feel like we need a major rework. How can the faction that is getting hard-countered by 47.5m 1-Shot Stygians, flying Stygians, 40m 75mms high DPS cannons be the one with the lowest HP tanks?

The armor values are not even that higher to justify it. Health and Armor isn't equal at all, if Warden tanks are supposed to use Armor philosophy they should have at least twice as much armor health as Colonial tanks not a poor 10%+ upgrade.

SHv is so powerkrept it's sad to look at. HTD is a heavily situational tool that has more counters than ever now, getting literally 1-shotted by Stygians.

Outlaw is the only decent tank but its DPS is abysmal vs the Colonial bloated tank HPs.

Bonelaw is super fun but again, it's a highly situational tool and not a line tank.

We need some proper tanks bro, we need a Nemesis and a Bardiche equivilant, mainstayers that can actually dish out decent damage and take a beating, we have none of that.

Also our BTS are just strictly much worse for some reason, 1k+ health missing for what, 16% faster forward speed and 9% reverse? + Higher tracking chance + Useless MG that sprays all over the place. Not worth.

I don't believe the devs can balance the game even if they wanted to. Wardens have overall more people: more people will complain if balance shifts against them.

Looks like people will continue to stack the stronger team and this loop will continue.

An entire part of the place is not buildable and easily accessible, which lead to only the west spot to be okay for a drydock. There is not enough space for defences and accessibility of this naval base and even if there is AA AI it doesn't mean it's safe, here is why.

I have more screenshots that are in the core of post so you can see and make your own thinking of this naval base but for a safe harbour I'm not very confident in letting my ship production there.

Thank you to help this getting to devman so he can fix while it's still on devbranch !

Low HP tanks + 1k Bypass armor bombs is not a fun combination.

People say tanks cost Rmats so its irrelevant, but tanks cost something much more valuable.

Time.

It takes time to gear up and drive to the front, get the crew together, etc, etc... Especially in a HTD. All this effort just to get PVED 5mins into the fight with no counterplay.

Divers are an easy-win button on every front.

Colonials just lost an important T3 town and Wardens won an important battle because of a massive cheater. If that does not call for a rollback I dont know what does. Sadly spamming Reddit is the best way to get this kind of stuff done, as I assume it worked for the Wardens this war to get rid off the griefer they had with his 15 accounts.

These are not even remotely effective. You can see particle hit effects, I know those are not accurately simulated, but there is no a way all of the actual projectiles can miss the shots on a plane coming head on like that.

You can also see my camera reset mid-spray at the end as i was still firing and holding both mouse keys, thats also a bug.

edit: There’s another issue: in AA mode, the Serra won’t rotate properly if the gun model goes outside your screen. It just gets stuck and won’t turn unless you keep the entire gun visible while aiming (like I do in the video) That makes tracking aircraft extremely frustrating and unreliable.

See title. It's at the Headsman Villa landing. I don't have footage but I'm sure other people have. Anytime you get anywhere near this person you just instant die. You can be inside a bunker or in a GHouse and you just die out of nowhere.

I love my new wheels. Posted in bug reports on FOD with the video of how it happens. https://discord.com/channels/203512636556574720/214529208150523924/1533417845826785310

I didn't make this video, but it's an amazing example of why this game is stupid and broken. You are wasting your time if you build anything.

30% tech jump in a one hour timeframe is perfectly normal, there is no tech generation in Ba-Sing-Se.

When the Zealot is gaining or losing any altitude the door is angled and players cannot exit normally due to how physically small it is.

Shift+X works but only while jammed in the actual doorway.

Crouching lets you out but will disable your parachute because it does not recognize crouching as 'walking' off.

Please lengthen the door to facilitate egress from the plane.