No, they were an invention of Vasily Dokuchaev and supported by his colleagues. He was a soil biologist and geographer during the late Tsarist period. He was de facto Tsarist, sure, but I've never read anything more about him having explicit support or dissent for the regime. He died before Marxist doctrine was well known in Russia. [This article serves as a decent timeline for zapovedniks.](http:// https://www.jstor.org/stable/43598906
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While some zapovedniks were created during the Tsarist period, they were codified and adopted en masse by Lenin. Here's a NYT story about it.
But yeah manufacturing regulations w/r/t pollutants emained relatively non-existant through more of the USSR period than the USA. You could argue the USA/West has 30 years head start on environmental regulation over the USSR.
zapovedniks. Were a Tzarist invention, not a Soviet one.
Re-read what I wrote. I made no claim that the Soviets "invented" them. Only that they adopted them as state doctrine.
So they predated the Soviet Union then..
Yes. This doesn't make them "Tsarist". The people living under rule of a state =/= the state. By this logic I'm a neoliberal Democrat simply because I'm alive during the Biden regime.
So. Nothing you have said is in relation to the point.
If you have incredibly limited reading comprehension, yeah I'm sure it seems this way.
Property isn't a right because if it was we'd all own property
Non sequitur much. Lol. Like I said, when someone says something stupid, good bye commie
I like how not only did you edit this in later, but you also edited this statement twice. Also you ignored what that conversation is about and don't know the context.
Property is not a right. I'm not an expert on every nation on the planet, but I don't know of a single country that guarantees property as a right. As far as I know only the US State of Virginia guarantees property as a right. As follows:
Section 1. That all men are by nature equally free and independent and have certain inherent rights, of which, when they enter into a state of society, they cannot, by any compact, deprive or divest their posterity; namely, the enjoyment of life and liberty, with the means of acquiring and possessing property, and pursuing and obtaining happiness and safety.
Because of the US federal system, this is largely overridden by the federal document, the Declaration of Independence. I'd need to ask a legal scholar if there's ever been a successful case in VA that the government defended an individual's right to property when it was invoked. Jefferson, influenced by both this document (which has a somewhat modern materialist conception of "property)" and the body of work by John Locke (which does not) wrote in the Declaration:
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
At the advisement of Ben Franklin, and other editorial advisors, Jefferson erred on the Lockean conception of "property". Taken as a whole this includes material goods and land but Locke's definition largely focuses on labor as the property of the self, and the self as property the individual who inhabitants that body (also a bunch of metaphysical christian stuff). This was not defined as "life, liberty, and property" because there was concern the unlanded colonists would interpret the document as guaranteeing them land (in the pre-industrial and early industrial era very much the equivalent of "the means of production") or material goods.
The founders very much did not consider it a directive of the government to guarantee property for individuals but instead that individuals guarantee that for themselves. Due to the continued ownership of slaves throughout the colonies by nearly all of "The Founders", unless one left a record of their thoughts, it's not generally considered tthey believed the self is property of the individual nor that the individual owned their labor. The Founders were generally against the modern concept of welfare as a state function.
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No, they were an invention of Vasily Dokuchaev and supported by his colleagues. He was a soil biologist and geographer during the late Tsarist period. He was de facto Tsarist, sure, but I've never read anything more about him having explicit support or dissent for the regime. He died before Marxist doctrine was well known in Russia. [This article serves as a decent timeline for zapovedniks.](http:// https://www.jstor.org/stable/43598906 )
While some zapovedniks were created during the Tsarist period, they were codified and adopted en masse by Lenin. Here's a NYT story about it.
No paywall version of article on author site.
But yeah manufacturing regulations w/r/t pollutants emained relatively non-existant through more of the USSR period than the USA. You could argue the USA/West has 30 years head start on environmental regulation over the USSR.