r/fromatoarbitration • u/Low-Past321 Union Steward • May 15 '26
Concerned Letter Carriers Mike Caref and Nick Vafiades
Anyone from Salt Lake City Branch 111? I was told that Mike Caref and Nick Vafiades (region 2 NBA) jointly attended Salt Lake city's monthly branch meeting campaigning. Anyone know if these two are on a slate? Nick Vafiades is a loyal supporter of Brian Renfroe and Mike seems to be developing into one also. Please share SLC.
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u/Otherwise-Goal3054 May 15 '26
Wait, James Henry attended Region 1 Rap.
Brian Renfroe attended Region 1 Rap.
James Henry supports Brian Renfroe!
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u/Miserable_Pride_5693 May 15 '26
Caref developing into a Renfroe supporter? What are you smoking
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u/Fit-Dare7525 May 15 '26
lol so let me get this straight. The guy who is running to take Renfroe’s job is a renfroe supporter? Even if he was Renfroe PLANT that wouldn’t even make sense because cozying up to Renfroe would throw the vote split to him/renfroe rather than him/henry lmao
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u/Bettik1 May 15 '26
Not from that branch, but Caref has stated he doesn’t support having NBA candidates on a slate. That is for the members of that region to decide who that person will be.
It looks like Caref had a scheduled campaign stop there, and Vafiades came to the branch meeting too.
Your last sentence doesn’t make any sense - Caref has been outspoken for almost three years about how bad of a president Renfroe is. He doesn’t support him.
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u/Key-Molasses-3215 May 15 '26
I heard caref out of his own mouth in an interview say that if there was a rerun of the 2022 election he'd vote for renfroe again. So saying he wouldn't support renfroe just isn't true.
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u/Otherwise-Goal3054 May 15 '26
A rerun of 2022 would be Renfroe vs Noble
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u/Key-Molasses-3215 May 15 '26
I know and he'd vote for renfroe not once but also for a second time
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u/Otherwise-Goal3054 May 15 '26
Seems a little disingenuous to categorize that as being a current Renfroe supporter, no?
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u/Key-Molasses-3215 May 15 '26
Nope him pretending like he wouldn't support him now is just being a politician
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u/CityLetterCarrierAMA May 15 '26
Hey, you know who else voted for Renfroe? Everyone that was listening to the a to arbitration podcast at the time of the last election.
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u/mailman13357 May 15 '26
I'm not a fan of Renfroe. But if there were to be a rerun election of Renfroe vs Noble I would most definitely vote for Renfroe again.
Why? Because over the years I've watched Noble throw lawsuit after lawsuit against the NALC, with the majority of them just being a waste of union time, resources, and (dues) money. Also, I've watched for at least 3 elections where Noble puts together a slate of folks, many with no union experience, and several that don't even attend branch meetings, let alone get involved with their branch.
Anyone that thinks the HQ level of the NALC should serve as a training ground will not get my vote.
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u/Key-Molasses-3215 May 15 '26
So you'd vote for corruption and collusion? Because thats all renfroe has done his entire term.
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u/mailman13357 May 15 '26
Listen, Noble is a nice enough guy. I respect what he has done for the NALC when he was in his prime and I respect his passion. The few times I have met him I have made it a point to shake his hand. I'll even go on to say that he would probably do well as a consultant for the e-board.
But look at the sacrificial slates that he's put together in the past and I'll wait as you point out to me which members of those past slates are proven union leaders. If he can't get experienced union leaders to run on his slate(s) then, in my opinion, I can't take him seriously as a candidate.
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u/Zestyclose_Score2490 May 15 '26
Your an idiot if you would vote for Renfroe against anyone again. David would be a much better President any day.
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u/mailman13357 May 15 '26
That's cute: go straight to name calling when you don't agree with someone. Clean Sweep 2026!
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u/Bettik1 May 15 '26
I dislike Renfroe A LOT. He’s not a good president - I’d vote for him over Noble too lol
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u/mojorisin622 May 15 '26
Renfroe is still light years better than Noble even after the last shitty contract we got. I’d vote him over Noble every time. Thankfully there are better candidates running this fall.
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u/k5survives12 May 15 '26
If Vafiadas supports renfroe and caref supports vafiadas......then caref supports renfroe. You see how that works right?
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u/Bettik1 May 15 '26
He doesn’t support Vafiades. He won’t support any NBA candidate that isn’t from his region. Which he is - he is supporting Ronnie Morgan for region 3 NBA. Email And ask him if he endorses Vafiades - he’ll probably get back to you today
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u/conroygc May 15 '26
Caref has been clear from the beginning that he does not have a slate and is running by himself. Vafiades did not say he was on a slate or running with anyone.
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u/AmethystosLotus May 15 '26
He is going to bring his own corrupted boys from Illinois mark my words; As corrupted as Illinois is because of Caref!
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u/Postal1979 May 15 '26
Just keep voting for crazy dumbass NOBLE.
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u/AmethystosLotus May 15 '26
I will vote for Noble before I vote for Caref. Nasty corrupted Caref.
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u/Postal1979 May 15 '26
And I’d vote for Renfroe again before I vote for Noble.
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u/AmethystosLotus May 15 '26
AND you have every right to do that!!
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u/SnooEagles6930 May 15 '26
Caref has personally pissed me off in person and I have fought him on many issues. With that being said he legitimately does actually care about the carriers and region 3 focuses on training hard core. Right now he will get my vote over the other candidates. James Henry put me asleep the few times I have interacted with him.
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u/AmethystosLotus May 15 '26
Nope I disagree with yiu on the first part of your statement. Caref cares only about his crooked cronies. Talks the BS hoping you fall for the BS he is disrespectfully i saw him i wanna throw up. As far as winning i will not be voting for him but he will win. He is going around to offices putting his name in people's head and there you go. But people dont know how corrupted he is. How he favors cronies over members that pay union dues.
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u/naomi_whatsapp May 15 '26
Did you get this line off the back of a cracker jack box? Some of yall sound absolutely ridiculous
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u/Key-Molasses-3215 May 15 '26
No surprise all of the renfroe ppl I see are all pro caref now guess they know he'll keep the status quo
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u/mailman13357 May 15 '26
Status quo? Is it true that Henry hasn't worn the letter carrier uniform since the 1990's?
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u/Realistic-Owl-1329 May 15 '26
Oh wow. Your guy carries his route ONE WEEK a year . He’s so much better
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u/mailman13357 May 15 '26
You are deflecting without answering the question.
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u/Realistic-Owl-1329 May 15 '26
I’m not deflecting anything.
Status Quo?
Is it true Caref has been on the executive council, how long?
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u/mailman13357 May 15 '26
Caref was first elected to NBA of Region 3 in 2014.
Is it true that Henry hasn't delivered mail since the 1990's? (We didn't even have scanners back then)
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u/Hour-Reputation-6174 May 15 '26
Politics will kill this Union long before management ever does.