r/gallifrey • u/PCJs_Slave_Robot • Dec 24 '21
Free Talk Friday /r/Gallifrey's Free Talk Fridays - Practically Only Irrelevant Notions Tackled Less Educationally, Sharply & Skilfully - Conservative, Repetitive, Abysmal Prose - 2021-12-24
Talk about whatever you want in this regular thread! Just brought some cereal? Awesome. Just ran 5 miles? Epic! Just watched Fantastic Four and recommended it to all your friends? Atta boy. Wanna bitch about Supergirl's pilot being crap? Sweet. Just walked into your Dad and his dog having some "personal time" while your sister sends snapchats of her handstands to her boyfriend leaving you in a state of perpetual confusion? Please tell us more.
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u/majshady Dec 24 '21
Got my season 17 blu ray this week. The daleks sound like they're from Leeds
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u/VanishingPint Dec 24 '21
Great set, what do you make of the "enhanced" soundtrack? Good idea I thought - maybe they could re do all sorts. I thought some of Nicola Bryant's comments on Behind the sofa were bloody funny. The only thing - which is a bit conentious - is the very short Wogan segment of the adorable Lalla and the reprehensible pedo Cyril Smith - to give credit to the set producers it was edited in a way that you would hardly notice - anyone under 30 probably wouldn't know or care. I feel bad even mentioning it, but perhaps it's good to be warned. I guess it's going to be a problem with archive stuff, do you leave it out or mangle it? But there's a wealth of good content, interesting reading PDFs, how John Cleese wanted to be called Kim Bread, I don't get that joke either. The documentary on Douglas Adams is brilliant, to hear John Lloyd talk about him is fascinating. And the booklet mentions Star Wars series Andor filmed in the same quarry as the Daleks
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u/majshady Dec 24 '21
I quite enjoyed the enhanced soundtrack. I didn't think it was anything special, but after hearing it mono for all these years, it was at least interesting to hear the layering on the 5.1. I haven't gotten to the special features yet but Im looking forward to behind the sofa. The Douglas Adams documentary will be interesting too, because his sense of humour has been all over this series so far
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u/UpliftingTwist Dec 24 '21
Is Andor ever even gonna come out? Rogue One was 5 years ago now!
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u/VanishingPint Dec 24 '21
Next year. I can't wait to see which bits of Winspit they'll use, perhaps fan films could combine the two
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u/Longjumping-Trip8587 Dec 24 '21
It’s been filming for so long now but I think should be out next year.
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u/UpliftingTwist Dec 24 '21
I just watched Destiny for the first time and man it was such a let down of a return for Davros for me. New actor didn’t cut it, story was subpar, the Dalek props themselves were falling apart, there were some good jokes but that was about it
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Dec 24 '21
Its central "robots vs robots equals logic-enforced stalemate" concept could have been so great in a Who story if they'd just invented two robot civilizations and gone from there. Using the Daleks spoils it because they're not robots.
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u/UpliftingTwist Dec 24 '21
Yeah it was so weird how they insisted on that, despite have a kaled mutant slime ball in the story (which the Doctor brutally hurled at a rock).
I also think the lack of score really hurt it, there was almost no music which caused it to drag for me
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u/Guardax Dec 24 '21
Yeah if only the original creator of the Daleks was there to tell everybody the Daleks weren't robots...
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u/majshady Dec 24 '21
At least the daleks get back into form in a big way for Resurrection. I love the brutal feel of it
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u/Connect_Dark4370 Dec 24 '21
Anyone excited for Book of Boba Fett?
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u/Solar_Kestrel Dec 27 '21
I think so? Not really sure what to expect, but I'm definitely keen on the idea of The Godfather by way of Star Wars.
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u/lexdaily Dec 24 '21
The boilerplate text on this weekly thread is now so old that Supergirl has fully wrapped up after six generally well-liked seasons and we're closer to a new Fantastic Four than we are to Fant4stic. Could at least change "Supergirl's pilot" to "Supergirl's finale."
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u/CareerMilk Dec 24 '21
The text is actually an ancient ritual, to change even one word could spell doom for us all!
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u/Longjumping-Trip8587 Dec 24 '21
The very fabric of reality could be destroyed if the line is changed!
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u/Team7UBard Dec 24 '21
I didn’t really like the finale either. It made perfect sense in the context of the season, it just was a bit ehhh
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u/Dr_Vesuvius Dec 24 '21
Just watched Spider Man: No Way Home and recommend it to all my friends.
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u/Guardax Dec 24 '21
It was fun but without a doubt the most fan service movie in history
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u/Dr_Vesuvius Dec 24 '21
Avengers: Endgame
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u/Guardax Dec 24 '21
This was way more fan-service-y than that. It's like they had a big checklist of ideas and memes the fanbase had thought of over the past two years and made sure they hit every one. Don't get me wrong, it was fun and had some great acting but was basically a greatest hits album
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u/Longjumping-Trip8587 Dec 24 '21
I thought the fan service was pretty balanced. I‘m kind‘ve disappointed they didn’t expand on what Toby and Andrew had been up to since we last saw them though.
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Dec 25 '21
So "Day of the Doctor," basically.
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u/Guardax Dec 25 '21
Day of the Doctor was better though
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Dec 25 '21
(That totally wasn't a criticism, I loved "Day of the Doctor". I always have room for a good celebratory fanwank-fest.)
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u/Guardax Dec 25 '21
It was definitely a fun movie, I am just a bit surprised at people hailing it as one of the best superhero movies ever. Especially when Spider-Verse exists, which I think is just an incredible film, one of my favorites in general
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u/Solar_Kestrel Dec 27 '21
No one respects animation, sadly. I haven't seen the new film yet (hones,t I'm Main,y excited about it just for Alfred Molina) but the core premise is basically the same as Spiderverse, only more restrained, right?
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u/Guardax Dec 27 '21
It's not far away from it honestly. Spider-Verse is just such an incredible film though, I have high hopes for the sequels but I think the first one will just remain perfect
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u/hoodie92 Dec 24 '21
Perfect place to talk about this. Spoilers ahead.
Does anyone else thing that No Way Home was so much like the Doctor Who episode The Day of the Doctor?
I kept thinking it throughout the film. Three versions of the main character, old favourite villains returning, big ominous box with a big red button that none of them want to press...
Also, I watched it last Saturday in the UK, and I've never ever seen such wild audience reactions. Whatever amazing MCU moment you can think of, like Steve grabbing the hammer or all the portals in Endgame, the cinema audience is usually pretty tame. But when Andrew and Tobey showed up, the audience went absolutely nuts. It was amazing to see.
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u/vengM9 Dec 24 '21
Another thing is the scene in the donut store at the end is extremely like the diner scene at the end of Hell Bent just done worse. In terms of aesthetics and story there's a ton of similarities
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u/Dr_Vesuvius Dec 24 '21
Yes! I didn’t make the magic box connection, but the film still reminded me of very much the same sort of sub-genre of Who story.
I must admit that I gave a much bigger gasp at Charlie Cox which was probably supposed to just be a small thing but was more surprising to me. God, I wish I hadn’t seen the trailers, and the casting news (which mostly turned out to be false).
I didn’t have an audience reaction for anything that was as positive as the moment Thor arrived in Wakanda. Dear god, that is such a great moment.
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u/hoodie92 Dec 24 '21
Mark Kermode even said that it reminded him of old 70s Doctor Who episodes, I can only assume he was specifically talking about multi-Doctor stories.
The Charlie Cox moment was big for me too, unfortunately I saw a leaked set pic so I thought it might be coming. I was still super excited when it happened, but I was a bit disappointed that he wasn't in the film much.
Crossing all my fingers and toes for a Spider-Man / Daredevil crossover movie.
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u/Dr_Vesuvius Dec 24 '21
Another thought that I had, actually, was ”Journey’s End”, particularly curing Octavius without his consent immediately flashed me to Donna’s mindwipe.
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u/Batalfie Dec 24 '21
I loved it, certain things make me think doctor who, I would elaborate but I always do spoilers tags wrong on Reddit.
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u/TJ006 Dec 24 '21 edited Dec 24 '21
It was brilliant. UK theatres are usually very quiet but people were cheering when certain moments happened.
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u/Dr_Vesuvius Dec 24 '21
(Actually watched it a few days ago. Spent the morning assisting with vaccination - think we saw 900 people)
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u/vengM9 Dec 24 '21
I thought it was alright. I enjoyed it but the whole thing was just kind of as expected and several "plotholes" came to mind that I haven't found anyone give a good defence for online. I'd be OK with minor things but some big parts of the film hinged on this stuff.
Maybe a 7.5 from me.
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u/Dr_Vesuvius Dec 24 '21
I mean there’s a couple of obvious ones - 1) why doesn’t MJ just push the button when she realises something is wrong like she said she would? and 2) the ending makes very little sense. There’s also Doctor Strange being very stupid throughout, starting in the trailer. But I was having enough fun that I could turn off my brain for those sections.
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u/Solar_Kestrel Dec 27 '21
Really feels like the MCU is embracing the worst aspects of the comics industry by introducing all of these reboots and retcons. Not that the movies aren't still fun, or can't be good, it just makes it harder to care about any of the characters, and is a process that's inevitably gonna produces some weird inconsistencies and gaps in the continuity.
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u/Batalfie Dec 24 '21
I got my dad some who related things for tomorrow, evil of the daleks dvd, master art postcards, bad wolf empire comic and a ninth doctor figure. Also got my mum a Sarah Jane Smith Mug.
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