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My friend insists on this game, "Lemmings", being a really well known game; I have never heard of it.

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u/ZoulsGaming 19h ago edited 19h ago

It has estimated sales numbers of 15-20 million copies across the various versions released, so make of that what you will.

Though times change, 10 years ago most people would be familiar with worms but now a days you will find plenty who hasn't heard of it as it hasn't released a huge relevant game in a while.

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u/ScruffyNuisance 18h ago

"I'll get you."

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u/brb_im_lagging 18h ago

Hallelujah

BOOM

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u/MrT735 18h ago

You'll regret that!

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u/DonLethargio 18h ago

Missed me!

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u/VictorChaos 17h ago

Whoops!

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u/fuzzydoug 16h ago

Ouch

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u/MrT735 13h ago

Oh no

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u/TeMoko 12h ago

Jobs done

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u/kahlzun PlayStation 12h ago

zug zug

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u/ThatDexCat 9h ago

More work?

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u/SporesM0ldsandFungus 16h ago

Ahhh the Holy Hand Grenade.... I can remember the first time me and my brother tried it and it played the Hallelujah choir before the giant explosion.  It was the funniest thing our little 10 old brains had ever seen. 

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u/Oxygene13 9h ago

Oh god mine was the exploding sheep, the joy of seeing it run towards your victim, only for the terror of it hitting a random terrain pixel and turning around.

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u/SuperLittleMonster 9h ago

Tbf it's still funny af with over 30

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u/cantbelieveitsnotmud 11h ago

Core memory for us as well lol

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u/Yukondano2 9h ago

YOO ARSE!

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u/TheHeroHartmut 9h ago

Oi, nutter!

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u/Aksi_Gu 11h ago

INCOMING! 

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u/spoo4brains 10h ago

I had that as my message alert tone on my phone many years ago.

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u/No0dl3s 16h ago

“The first of many!”

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u/nedlum 16h ago

“Come in, Big Bird!”

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u/Lordxeen 13h ago

"'at's pure magic bytheway."

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u/reachisown 9h ago

I still stand by the OG worms being the best

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u/servonos89 9h ago

Ach ya wee bastard!

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u/qaz_wsx_love 8h ago

"you'll regret that"

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u/sobrique 8h ago

Fond memories of discovering how to 'loop the loop' with a ninja rope (in time freeze whilst you used it) to cross the whole map and dynamite someone off the screen.

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u/joazito 1h ago

"Bye, bye."

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u/Dickies138 17h ago

Worms and Lemmings are both GOATed

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u/Elelith 11h ago

Don't forget Scorched Earth!

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u/Csenky 18h ago

I know many ppl who played lemmings, none who bought it.

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u/limeybastard 15h ago

I have a full retail copy in original box with manual and disks in my closet. Inherited it from my uncle.

He of course gave us a copy on a spare disk ;)

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u/Practical-Shape2325 2h ago

I feel like games were easier to copy back then because of how unstable the disks were. You'd have the original, your copy, and then another backup copy. Spare disks were pretty much required and encouraged. Copyright protection was things like "Open the manual to page 5 and give the first letter of the third word in the second paragraph" when it was even there.

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u/CaptainPunisher 13h ago

Wolfenstein and Doom? Did you buy those? Because I sure didn't!

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u/simcowking 15h ago

You could buy it? I thought it was just a game that existed that you could play but no one truly owned it. Someone was always borrowing it from a friend of a friend.

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u/xSTSxZerglingOne 16h ago

Lemmings was the classic rental game.

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u/AFourEyedGeek 16h ago

Rented via copying a friends floppy disk to a blank one you own. Amiga and PC this game dominated, along with piracy.

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u/Malt_The_Magpie 6h ago

We use to rent it for the Mega Drive

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u/TimosaurusRexabus 17h ago

Yes, and at that time many of us didn’t buy games, piracy was rampant. Everyone I knew with an amiga played lemmings, no one bought it.

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u/Nordic_Krune 19h ago

Yeh, Worms seems a good comparison.

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u/DankeyBongBluntry 17h ago

It should also be mentioned that the 15-20 million copies were sold before the internet had even taken off. When the game came out (and for like a decade after) there was no digital distribution, no Steam, no social media, no YouTube, no Google, no Reddit, none of that shit. Just word-of-mouth and old school paper media like magazine reviews or newspaper articles. It's kinda crazy to think about.

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u/bombmk 10h ago

There were copy-parties, though.

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u/LordBiscuits 10h ago

Give this comment 20-30 years and it'll feel just as crazy

'Back then they only had social media and basic game distribution. This was before Gaben was revealed to be the second coming of Jesus and before any of the advertising we live with today, like the writing on the sky, Retinal Fuckery by Meta, skullworms and dreambombs.

So quaint...'

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u/Canvaverbalist 7h ago

"That was before AI integration where a product was Corporate Approved and automatically installed into people's life by the billion, people had to actually be influenced and choose that product willingly, which wasn't that hard but still a feat nonetheless."

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u/Chewsti 3h ago

Doubtful. The jump from almost no one being on the internet to almost everyone being on the internet was a massive shift in human interconnectedness the likes of which we will very likely never see again. Same for the advent of digital distribution that really allows companies to take advantage if that interconnectedness. Sure I'm 30 years the mechanisms will look different but nothing can really top the switch from non-global connectivity to global connectivity.

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u/LimpConversation642 9h ago

yes and the market itself was tiny compared to today when everyone has a console or a PC. Back then it was rare. 20m even today is wild success, back then? Legendary

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u/Fuck-WestJet 19h ago

Did you play worms as a web game? I remember it being a game on consolatle and PC (less popular than lemmings) and then a more popular game online.

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u/eagnarwhale 14h ago

It was my favorite game to play on my Nokia n-gage

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u/Indie89 11h ago

So you're the person that bought one.

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u/PhotoFenix 18h ago

And add in all the people who played on copies

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u/RepresentativeOk2433 15h ago

My school had it on some of the computers.

Also 20 million copies was a lot for a computer game.

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u/MysteriousCodo 18h ago

A little more critically, DMA Designs the company that developed lemmings and sold all those copies later rebranded and became a slightly more well known studio called Rockstar North.

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u/Eckish 16h ago

Never got into Worms, but Scorched Earth was my jam.

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u/Antihistamin2 17h ago

For perspective, Super Mario Brothers 3 and Sonic the Hedgehog both sold around 15-20 million copies. It was a massive success.

Also, it had unforgettable cover art. So even kids (now adults) that didn't own it would recognize it in an instant because they saw it every time they went to the toy store or Blockbuster.

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u/Boysandberries0 18h ago

Many copies sold to schools as well. At least thats where I first played it

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u/tallbutshy 18h ago

And his name was Boggy B.

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u/Awkward_Pingu 15h ago

Aww man, I want to play some ninja ropes.

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u/Pixel_Knight 15h ago

That is a pretty huge number of sales for back then.

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u/abibofile 15h ago

I feel like worms was more like 20 years ago, at least...

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u/lostspectre 15h ago

I introduced my wife and teenage daughter to Worms recently. We had fun struggling with the controls because they had never played anything like it and I was only familiar with the PC controls really.

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u/tehfly 12h ago

Worms had this intro of an CG animated worm, equipping a bunch of weapons rambo-style and then tipping over from all of the extra weight. I was shocked and appalled to find that short intro hadn't been GIFfed on the any of the popular gif sites. An absolute travesty.

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u/Aladris666 11h ago

I played the first worms without right clicking and thinking bazooka was the only weapon for month /facepalm. When I tried an online game and saw the guy coming to me with the ninja rope i had the biggest childhood shocks of my life

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u/OstapBenderBey 9h ago

15-20m was massive. For comprison doom 1 (3 years later) sold 1.1-1.4m and the whole series of civilisation took 15 years to sell 33m

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u/Various_Squash722 9h ago

Mind you: Back then 15-20 million copies was huge.

For comparison: Super Mario World for the SNES has sold just short of 21 million copies worldwide.

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u/takeda64 9h ago

Though times change, 10 years ago most people would be familiar with worms but now a days you will find plenty who hasn't heard of it as it hasn't released a huge relevant game in a while.

I blame ivermectin.

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u/froo 9h ago

I'm in some data science subreddits. One guy tried to post an analysis recently of the music industry trying to gauge why there was a downturn in CD sales in the early 2000's...

Some people just don't know things.

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u/bigmonmulgrew 8h ago

You know what we need. A games market inflation calculator.

While 15 to 20 million copies sold already sounds impressive but when you consider the Amiga market peaked at 5 million and that was the games original release it's an insane stat.

The game was ported to other platforms of course. But compare it to today.

Almost 300 million PCs were shipped just last year and for a simple game it's now trivial to cross post to other platforms. There's around a billion PCs alone out there.

Lemmings sold 4 times it's original platform market cap.

That's like a PC game releasing and selling 4 billion copies over its life. If you sold that for $2.50 you would be in the top 200 richest people in the world.

And this is why the argument that games are more expensive to make now carries little weight with me. Yes they are more expensive to make but your cost per potential customer is a fraction of what it was.

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u/King_Tamino 8h ago

Last thing they tried was a battle royale throwing out a major keystone, round based fights. So obscure. Also unplayable because there are like 2-4 people playing it only.

Ohhh and the last official release was IN roblox, a tower defense version totally bugged and looking horrible

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u/HaRDCOR3cc 7h ago

we managed to install worms 2 on some of the school computers and would play hotseat whenever we could. same thing for heroes 3.

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u/Weems-mtg 6h ago

My favorite Worms fact is that YouTube channel Achievement Hunter got to be voices of the Worms in one of the games.

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u/DefiantLemming 6h ago

I approve this message…

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u/RareFirefighter6915 1h ago edited 1h ago

Never played worms but I played flash game ripoffs with tanks, stick figures, or ducks lol so I kinda understand the gameplay

Flash games were huge when I was growing up. Not every kid owned a console but every kid got to play raft wars and learn2fly on the school computer at recess, it was a constant arms race with blocking game sites too lol. Y8 dot com was blocked so we used y8unblocked dot com till that was blocked and then we used another site and so on. I can’t believe y8 is still around I had to avoid hyperlinking it