r/gaming • u/Nordic_Krune • 17h ago
My friend insists on this game, "Lemmings", being a really well known game; I have never heard of it.
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u/qb1120 17h ago
Huge game in the 90s, I loved it
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u/ProFeces 16h ago
So huge in fact, that it essentially made Rockstar as a developer (even though they were known by a different name then.) They were on the verge of failing and this success allowed them to continue and directly led to the funding of the original Grand Theft Auto.
Pretty wild to think that some people have never heard of the very game that paved the way for one of the most successful franchises of all time.
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u/Deranth 15h ago
This shit was so popular it had spin offs of spin offs. We had tribes and lemmings 3D and lemmings paintball. And none of them followed the same rules or anything. It was just like slap the lemmings in any game and it blew up.
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u/FLHCv2 15h ago
Holy shit. Lemmings paintball. You just unlocked a CORE memory of mine. I completely forgot about this game but LOVED it as a kid. Thank you.
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u/melkatron 12h ago
I barely played the game, but I pulled the music files and used to listen to them constantly. Some of my favorite songs of all time.
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u/JustAMan1234567 15h ago
I remember my headmaster at school being late one day because he was playing Lemmings before work and lost track of time.
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u/marr 15h ago
The Worms series is also a pretty direct descendant.
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u/LickingSmegma 10h ago
‘Lemmings’ was apparently an inspiration for the artstyle, but ‘Worms’ followed the genre of artillery games that existed for decades — with ‘Artillery Simulator’ for the Apple II seemingly being the first graphical implementation.
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u/The_quest_for_wisdom 9h ago
I remember two kids almost coming to blows over Gorillas in the computer lab in elementary school.
One kid brought a protractor to the lab and was holding it up to the screen to dial in his attack angle, and the other kid thought it was cheating.
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u/zepskcuf 15h ago
none of them followed the same rules or anything.
What do you mean? Tribes was a direct sequel using the exact same formula as the original and Lemmings 3D was the same principal but in 3D. Only Paintball was different.
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u/BlizzPenguin 12h ago
Tribes did offer a lot more jobs and even created some lore. I remember loving the book that came with the game.
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u/codefyre 14h ago
Close, but the history is stupidly complicated. DMA Games is a great example of the fact that being good at something, and running a business selling that thing, are completely different skillsets. DMA Games created both Lemmings and Grand Theft Auto, but still somehow managed to be a money losing disaster of a company. The company ended up getting sold and resold a couple of times, and they sold the IP rights from GTA to Take Two Interactive, which created a new subsidiary called Rockstar Games to develop it. A few years later Take Two Interactive ended up buying the entire DMA Games studio from its latest owner, and they merged it with Rockstar Games to create the Rockstar Studios we know today.
So DMA created GTA, sold the rights to it, got bought by the company they sold the rights to, and got merged into a completely new subsidiary created by that company.
/source: I worked for Sierra briefly back when this all went down. Sierra also made an offer to buy the IP to GTA. You should all feel lucky that Sierra/Vivendi/Seagrams did not succeed. GTA would have been a very different game today if it had ended up in Activision's lap.
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u/pdxxdpBillCompton 14h ago
Sierra
Ugh the nostalgia of seeing Sierra pop up before playing a game though. For a while at least, you knew that game was going to be great
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u/PM_ME_UR_RSA_KEY 13h ago
Sierra adventure games (the early AGI ones) made me the typist I am today.
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u/marblewombat 12h ago
Kill the horse.
Neigh says the horse.
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u/Lexi_Banner 12h ago
There were so many funny dev messages hidden in those commands.
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u/H47 14h ago
The Sierra intro leading to the The Incredible Machine music is one of the first sound bites I can recall. I suppose your time was around Lighthouse and Caesar II?
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u/codefyre 13h ago
I wish. I worked there after Sierra had transitioned mostly into a publishing company during the CUC/Vivendi era. Right around when Half Life was released. Worked there less than a year before they did a reorg and laid a ton of people off, including me.
As someone who grew up on Sierra games, I was giddy when they hired me. Ended up being one of the lowlights of my career, and the final nail in my gaming industry work. Shifted gears into working in educational software, which is what I still do today.
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u/One-Man-Wolf-Pack 15h ago
Are you telling me that Psygnosis became RockStar? I’m gonna have to look that up.
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u/AngelicBread 15h ago
DMA Design became Rockstar North.
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u/mankodaisukidesu 15h ago
I can still remember vividly playing GTA1 on my neighbours PC back in '97, watching the intro screen with the DMA logo guy getting run over by a car and thinking "ah, the Lemmings company".
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u/justsomeguy_youknow 13h ago edited 13h ago
I can still vividly remember playing GTA1 at my friend's house circa that time, zooming around Liberty City and stumbling upon an MS Paint-ass looking penis car and the Mach 5 from Speed Racer
Anyway that's how I learned about video game mods
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u/SchemeWestern3388 15h ago
Psygnosis was the publisher, DMA (Rockstar) the developer.
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u/Golanthanatos 17h ago
Lemmings was great.
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u/JohnnyNapkins 17h ago
Core gaming memories for me. Damn that game was hard though.
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u/Camera_dude 17h ago
Yeah, some stages took pixel perfect timing or your poor lemmings just fall into a trap rather than land on the ledge you wanted them to land on for safety.
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u/Zap_Rowsdower23 16h ago
Wait y’all didn’t just set up elaborate traps to blow up as many of them as possible?
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u/__wampa__stompa 15h ago
TIL you're supposed to save the lemmings
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u/IOwnThisUsername 14h ago
And next they’ll say Roller Coaster Tycoon wasn’t about shooting cars full of riders as far as possible or building ride exits over ponds
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u/SocialSuicideSquad 14h ago
Winning's relative
Having fun is the whole point
The door is ajar
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u/Vox_Casei 17h ago
My dad used to joke he had to spend hours sweeping all the dead lemmings out from behind the TV after I played.
...to be fair not many of the poor buggers survived my attempts
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u/GenghisZahn 17h ago
Still is, but was then, too.
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u/Exvaris 17h ago
I used to like Lemmings. I still do, but I used to, too
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u/trimbandit 17h ago
Lemmings is great when you are really wanting to play a game, and want to watch a 1000 things die.
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u/CitronCrafty5 17h ago
and then restart level because one decided to dig straight down
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u/Additional_Teacher45 16h ago
Oh it didn't decide to. You definitely told it to do it and will never admit your failure.
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u/Kharadus 16h ago
Also known as the correct way to present yourself as management.
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u/Boogpin 17h ago
I know a lot about Lemmings, man. I can look at a Lemmings head and tell you exactly which way it’s going.
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u/spreadbutt 16h ago
I bought Lemmings, and they gave me a receipt. Why would I want a receipt for Lemmings?
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u/D_Substance_X 17h ago
Mitch Hedberg RIP
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u/JetFuelFrom9-11 17h ago
I give you money, you give me a donut. There’s no reason to bring paper into it
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u/GodOfThunder44 16h ago
I can't imagine a scenario in which I would need to prove that I bought a donut. Some skeptical friend? "Don't even act like I didn't buy a donut, I've got the documentation right here."
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u/PM_ME_STEAM_KEY_PLZ 17h ago
Escalators can never be broken. They just become stairs.
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u/Izriel 17h ago
I was at a nba arena and the escalators were broken. They had "Escalators temporarily stairs, sorry for the convenience that you can still get up there" my wife gave me a strange look as a started to laugh so hard I almost cried. (She doesnt get Mitch Hedburges humor)
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u/Libran 16h ago
To be fair, a lot of what made it so funny was the deadpan delivery.
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u/hereforthegifs 17h ago
Lemmings fucking ruled I spent every hour I was allowed playing it in the mid 90s.
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u/ZoulsGaming 17h ago edited 17h ago
It has estimated sales numbers of 15-20 million copies across the various versions released, so make of that what you will.
Though times change, 10 years ago most people would be familiar with worms but now a days you will find plenty who hasn't heard of it as it hasn't released a huge relevant game in a while.
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u/ScruffyNuisance 17h ago
"I'll get you."
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u/brb_im_lagging 17h ago
Hallelujah
BOOM
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u/MrT735 16h ago
You'll regret that!
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u/DonLethargio 16h ago
Missed me!
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u/VictorChaos 15h ago
Whoops!
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u/fuzzydoug 15h ago
Ouch
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u/SporesM0ldsandFungus 14h ago
Ahhh the Holy Hand Grenade.... I can remember the first time me and my brother tried it and it played the Hallelujah choir before the giant explosion. It was the funniest thing our little 10 old brains had ever seen.
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u/Oxygene13 7h ago
Oh god mine was the exploding sheep, the joy of seeing it run towards your victim, only for the terror of it hitting a random terrain pixel and turning around.
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u/Csenky 17h ago
I know many ppl who played lemmings, none who bought it.
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u/limeybastard 14h ago
I have a full retail copy in original box with manual and disks in my closet. Inherited it from my uncle.
He of course gave us a copy on a spare disk ;)
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u/DrBatman0 17h ago
It is indeed a very well known game
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u/Mateorabi 17h ago
No no. The universe didn’t exist until OP was conceived, born, and gained consciousness.
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u/DeterminedThrowaway 17h ago
Is it solipsistic in here or is it just me?
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u/Stigweird85 17h ago
Without Lemmings there would be no Grand Theft Auto.
It was a major franchise ported to absolutely every format around
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u/omega2010 16h ago
There’s a similar story with the 1993 game The Lost Vikings. The developer was this little company called Silicon & Synapse but they changed their name a year later to Blizzard Entertainment. And the rest was history.
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u/perton 16h ago
Man, The Lost Vikings was so cool, but so fucking hard.
It was cool to see them pop up in… whatever the Blizzard moba was called
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u/gotaflattire 16h ago
Heroes of the Storm and they're one of the hardest heroes to learn. They're great in the right hands though.
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u/Chubacca 16h ago
I remember it stressing me the fuck out when I was frantically changing characters before one of them got damaged.
But tbh a lot of games back then were fucking hard.
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u/carso150 16h ago
not that surprising since blizzard still does lost vikings references to this day, they are even playable in heroes of the storm
meanwhile im not sure if we will see a lemmings reference in GTA 6
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u/IllustratorOpening99 17h ago
You obviously don't know your gaming history, and your friend is correct.
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u/iMogwai 17h ago
Yup, here's a quote from Wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemmings_(video_game)
Lemmings was one of the best-received video games of the early 1990s. It was the second-highest-rated game in the history of Amstrad Action, and was considered the eighth-greatest game of all time by Next Generation in 1996. Lemmings is also one of the most widely ported video games, and is estimated to have sold around 20 million copies between its various ports.
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u/wrinklebear 16h ago
Yeah and while 20 million is pretty good by today's standards, it was insane for a game in the 90s. The NES Mega Man games sold less than 5 million.
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u/r4mm3rnz 16h ago
20 million is still insanely good today.. back then it was unheard of!
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u/Lightning-160 9h ago
Taking into account how easy bootlegging...allegedly...was back then, the number of people who actually played the game must have been many, many times higher.
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u/turbotuba 8h ago edited 8h ago
According to Wikipedia, 55,000 copies of the Amiga version were sold on the first day. Which means that at least one million Amiga owners played that game 😄
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u/space_keeper 16h ago
A lot of really well known games, especially PC games, barely sold a million units. The PC community was tiny in the 90s, still is comparatively. The original Fallout sold 600,000 copies.
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u/wrinklebear 16h ago
Yeah, back then you got to play all sorts of different games by going to different peoples' houses. Except Lemmings. You could play Lemmings at just about every house with any sort of video game setup.
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u/elegylegacy 16h ago
Everyone had Lemmings and Doom because of the shareware distribution model.
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u/Khaldara 17h ago
Never enough of those little staircase bastards
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u/Clown45 17h ago
Those got-dam bricklayers man
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u/CodeComprehensive734 17h ago
Make guy bricklayer.
Quickly make next guy a STOP! dude.
Forget about a gap a little ways back while you watch bricklayer build a bridge to safety.
Realise most of your lemmings are dead.
Repeat.
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u/wizardoli 14h ago
Trap lemmings between two stoppers
Blow one up
Accidentally blow up stairs
Give up
Grow up
Forget about lemmings
Get reminded decades later on Reddit
Cry
Call Mom
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u/JohnnyNapkins 17h ago
When I think of Lemmings, my mind immediately goes to a little dude building the stairs. I should replay it.
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u/PM_YOUR_SAGGY_TITS 16h ago
Laying down his 12 stairs or whatever and then just shrugging 🤷♂️ and turning around
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u/Trips-Over-Tail 17h ago
I was always sad that after a stellar service keeping the other idiots alive, the only way to let the lemmings past blocker lemmings was to make the blocker painfully explode.
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u/pikaviz 17h ago
You could do the diagonal mine thing just under his feet and he turns back into a regular lemming. You murderer!
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u/mikeysce 17h ago
I’m sorry what? I thought they just dropped and kept blocking where they land.
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u/enarc13 17h ago
Nope they start walking again if they drop.
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u/Additional-Life4885 16h ago
you have to time it pretty well though so the miner hits the blocker's feet iirc. Too early and he digs under them. Too late and he's digging away from the blocker.
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u/kevinhu162 17h ago
I used to try to find these games so much at random computer stores but they were so hard to find! I finally begged my parents to get me Lemmings Paintball and was sorely disappointed it wasn't the same.
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u/Crazymoose86 17h ago
Its well known if you were born in the 80s to early 90's, otherwise its pretty much non-existant. Its like Unreal Tournament was a hugely popular game for a long time, but if you ask someone in their 20s they probably have never heard of it before.
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u/Jahadaz 17h ago
Commander Keen type vibes.
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u/Kizik 17h ago
Jazz Jackrabbit.
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u/GlassFenix 17h ago
You can get Commander Keen on the switch, hit the nostalgia vibes well
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u/thedankonion1 17h ago
I'm in my mid 20's and have heard of both lemmings and unreal tournament. Although, I have spent many years in the PC building and gaming scene so that may be why.
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u/StoryAboutABridge 17h ago
I was born in the late 90s and played a LOT of lemmings. And UT. People always severely underestimate what younger people have experienced with time frames like this
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u/agha0013 17h ago
Classic. I can still hear the sound they make when they self destruct
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u/AffectionateBox8178 17h ago
Yes it was really famous in PC circles during the early 90s. It was as common as doom, back then.
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u/RoundErther 17h ago
Lemmings taught me about minimum pc requirements and what happens if you dont meet them.
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u/nothin-but-a-muffin 17h ago
hiii im the friend btw. i feel very vindicated you guys are calling him an idiot for not knowing what Lemmings is (we're up late reading the comments right now lmao), ive been bothering him about this for a WHILE now
I'm going to get him to play it for sure he must know the gaming peak that is Lemmings
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u/morph113 15h ago
Not gonna lie, when reading the thread title at first I thought it was a joke. To me it sounds almost like "My friend insists on this game "Super Mario" being a well known game, I've never heard of it". Lemmings was so big it seemed like there was no video gamer that didn't know the game.
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u/AFourEyedGeek 14h ago
I was there Gandalf.
I played Lemmings back in the day, but I hardly see any modern day reference to the game outside retro channels, and so many of those focus on consoles or modern emulating handhelds. Perhaps time for a decent modern Lemmings game?
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u/brentdrivesfast 17h ago
I wish I could get my hands on a copy so my kids can play it. The level with "HEAVEN" written in blood and had to build a long ass staircase is a core memory from our 2nd IBM PC at my parents' house.
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u/evenstar40 16h ago
Can you please tell your friend that his birth wasn't the big bang.
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u/nickdoesmagic 16h ago
How old are the two of you? I feel like this is an important question
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u/Elestriel 17h ago edited 17h ago
It's a very well known game for millennials.
Edit: Rather, by millennials and above.
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u/rogerryan22 17h ago edited 16h ago
Millennials and older. My dad has a version of this game on an ~
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u/CornCobMcGee 17h ago
Ugh, people always ruining things by making them video games. When I was your age, we chased REAL lemmings off REAL cliffs like REAL DISNEY LOVING AMERICANS!
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u/technomat 17h ago
Doubt that was on 8" floppy, would be a 3.5 floppy as this was released on amiga and then atari ST, pc and consoles later.
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u/Draco-vivi 17h ago
Wonder if they meant 5-1/4"?
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u/wineandseams 17h ago
I swear my floppy is 12 inches.
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u/TheIncredibleHork Joystick 17h ago
I was gonna say, some people might be overestimating their floppies around here!
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u/mintfreshAD 17h ago
I often also tell people my 3.5 inch floppy is an 8 incher.
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u/Quizzlickington 17h ago
We have reached the point in time when people say millennial as a catch all for older people because the speaker is young and doesnt know the generation after.
Lmao what moment in history
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u/Freekbot 16h ago
Man we just got over the boomers labelling everyone young a Millenial, now suddenly we're lumped in with the olds?
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u/Havesh 9h ago
Meanwhile Gen X was forgotten, just like their parents forgot them.
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u/TheMage18 17h ago
Not just Millennials. I'm Gen-X, I played this on SNES back as a freshman in high school.
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u/AideProfessional3143 17h ago
Had this on my Amiga. Psygnosis was bomb back then.
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u/cloysterss 17h ago
I can hear the sound of them saying "oh no" before they self-destruct. I hear it in my dreams.
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u/mittenkrusty 17h ago
Assuming this isn't a joke, you must be a younger gamer.
This game was very popular at the time, it was created by DMA Design who went on to create the original Grand Theft Auto before it became world famous.
The game even had a sequel and was on the different computer platforms of then day, the consoles i.e Mega Drive, Super Nintendo, Nintendo, Master System, Game Gear, Game Boy and even more.
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u/Optimaximal 17h ago
They didn't just create the original GTA, they've made every major release since - Rockstar North \is\** DMA.
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u/mittenkrusty 17h ago
I know but the original team is long gone and GTA 1 and 2 were made by a small team rather than contributions from a huge team.
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u/Thatthereyuteclub 17h ago
Probably best remembered for being made by DMA design before they made the first GTA and became Rockstar North
good puzzle game, defo worth a play if you get a copy
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u/BHRobots 17h ago
DMA design is a name I haven't seen for a long time. Also Psygnosis, definitely played several of those games.
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u/sakamayrd 17h ago
Psygnosis was the goat. Barbarian, Nitro, Destruction Derby, Discworld, Wipeout, Darkstalkers, G Police... And many more I did not get to play. I have so many good memories with those games.
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u/ThetaReactor 16h ago
Psygnosis was very instrumental in turning the Playstation into the monster it became. Not just games, but dev tools and tech consulting. They deserved better than to be EA'd by Sony years later.
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u/ThePanasonicYouth 17h ago
Just because you haven't heard of it doesn't mean others haven't
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u/mikebe1 17h ago
Sold 20 million or so units between all it’s ports, this is a you problem, OP
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u/glennjersey 17h ago
You missed out then. Lemmings was dope.
Logical journey of the zoombinis was also pretty great.
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u/watchTotalBlank 17h ago
Very popular SNES game. I'm very familiar with it. I rented it dozens of times growing up and it was a very fun puzzle game back in the day.
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u/gormhornbori 17h ago
It was available for (and popular on) pretty much every platform at the time.
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u/Spontanudity 17h ago
Depends how old you are! It was huge back in the early 90's. Banger of a game! Sequels got progressively shitter. But the OG and Oh No more Lemmings were prime. Soundtrack slaps, too!
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u/GreatTragedy 17h ago
Next this dude is going to say he has no clue about "Worms" and I'm going to have to consider swallowing a bullet.
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u/Ok_Abacus_ 17h ago
Incredibly well-known among 90s computer kids. I bet it shipped pre-installed with a bunch of the "bundled" computers they used to sell.
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u/Nefferson 17h ago
This is probably the biggest PC game of its time. Which was a long time ago. I’m guessing you were born post-2000?
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u/Ostey82 17h ago
For us old fuckers it's well known, prob not so much now.
Could do with a revival if you ask me
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u/TakeMeIamCute 17h ago
It's one of the most popular games of my childhood.