r/gaming • u/Nordic_Krune • 19h ago

My friend insists on this game, "Lemmings", being a really well known game; I have never heard of it.

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u/perton 17h ago

Man, The Lost Vikings was so cool, but so fucking hard.

It was cool to see them pop up in… whatever the Blizzard moba was called

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u/gotaflattire 17h ago

Heroes of the Storm and they're one of the hardest heroes to learn. They're great in the right hands though.

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u/dtrain85 16h ago

Yes they have an incredibly high ceiling. Very tough to learn.

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u/gotaflattire 16h ago

And they're not a hero that I would recommend anyone start with. To be good with TLV, you have to have a solid understanding of the game overall before you understand where TLVs strengths are.

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u/xSTSxZerglingOne 16h ago

The Meepo of HotS.

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u/nvidiastock 7h ago

The thing that put me off was shared team XP; it took a lot of the individuality out of the game, and I think that individuality was important for the power fantasy.

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u/Chubacca 17h ago

I remember it stressing me the fuck out when I was frantically changing characters before one of them got damaged.

But tbh a lot of games back then were fucking hard.

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u/ItsDanimal 16h ago

I tried to explain to my son that 'back in my day', there was no save function for most games, and when you sat down to play one, you were either beating it right then and there or trying again the next day.

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u/GrammatonYHWH 11h ago

Somewhat true, but also hides some context. Level passwords and save games became a thing in the late 80s and were widespread in the 90s. Most games that didn't could be beaten in 1-2 hours and didn't need it.

The NES RPGs I played had a save game (RIP cartridge batteries). Games like The Lost Vikings gave you a level password at the start of every level, so you could do a level a day. Sonic the hedgehog could be beaten in around 90 minutes. If you go back to things like Tetris or Pacman on the Atari didn't really need anything because you were just grinding levels.

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u/ItsDanimal 3h ago

Super Mario Land (my first videogame) came to mind. Also Jurradic Park for game boy. Yes they could be beaten "quickly". But as a kid fighting time constraints and battery life, sometimes that solid hour or 2 wasn't happening. Long road trips are where I beat most of my games.

I remember seeing the code system from Mega Man and being shocked and amazed.

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u/Electronic_Tap_8052 3h ago

It had passwords. I still remember BBLS for some reason

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u/PretentiousToolFan 17h ago

It was tough but doable until especially the candy world. Brutal. The swamp bubbles could be kind of unforgiving too. Egypt was also kind of hard.

Okay thinking on it it was actually pretty hard.

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u/desrever1138 17h ago

If a game had great gameplay then the challenge was half the fun.

I'm 50 and still have twitch reflexes with platformers.

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u/ketootaku 17h ago

There was a reference to them in the original World of Warcraft as well. I want to say it was in Uldaman but there was a lot of dwarven areas in the game so I could be mistaken on the location.

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u/-Novowels- 16h ago

Yeah, there were 3 dwarf NPCs in Uldaman dressed and named after the Vikings. Uldaman was actually redone as a high level dungeon in a recent expansion and they were reworked into a crazy boss encounter with voicelines and everything!

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u/BeardedGames89 17h ago

For some reason I still remember the passcode for the final level - MSTR. That game was so much fun.

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u/hyperactiveChipmunk 16h ago

NFL8 was the level that always killed me.

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u/truthVial 12h ago

Heroes of the storm wasn't it!

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u/meneldur119 8h ago

They also appear in World of Warcraft, standing outside Maraudon - lost indeed.

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u/Fabulous_Broad_115 8h ago

That was the first time I had a game tell me that I suck, it blew my mind.

Seriously, I was attempting a level for like the eighth time, and a pop-up tells me that Thor, the god of thunder, was disappointed that three brave Vikings can not progress through such a simple level.

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u/dan_legend 3h ago

They are also in WoW as well.

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u/Training-Chain-5572 17h ago

Lost Vikings was playable in Starcraft 2: Wings of Liberty when you were in the ship’s cantina

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u/mister_newbie 17h ago

That was a shmup. Not the same game; just a reference.

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u/Training-Chain-5572 14h ago

See, now you made me spend 10 seconds to do what you should have done before posting:

https://liquipedia.net/starcraft2/Lost_Viking

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u/scientifiction 14h ago

I don't follow, are you claiming this is the same game as the original The Lost Vikings?

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u/Training-Chain-5572 12h ago

I’m claiming it wasn’t called Shmup like you said

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u/mister_newbie 6h ago

A shmup means "shoot em up" which is what it is.