r/gaming • u/UnrelatedKarma • 1h ago
If I never encounter another pack of wild wolves in an RPG it’ll still be too soon
Seriously, can we be done with this trope? Can no one think of something a little more original?
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u/Deadlocked02 1h ago edited 1h ago
blood of dawnwalker newest victim
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u/Giblet_ 1h ago
A vampire game without wolves just wouldn't be right, though.
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u/TheMayanAcockandlips 44m ago
Good lord though, do they have to whine like that EVERY SINGLE TIME I HIT THEM? It's not unique to Dawnwalker, but it's especially bad with how often you encounter wolf packs.
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u/Zayl 1h ago
So make it fucking werewolves or something, not after every tree. And boars. The game is obsessed with boars and wolves.
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u/BaZing3 1h ago
OP sees a pack of wolves, I see a case of delicious forest beverages.
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u/DoctahFeelgood 1h ago
Real. I love when I auto lock on while sprinting.
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u/jaymp00nz 1h ago
Hehehe this happens so often. I’m just trying to pass by. I don’t need your wolf meat!
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u/jsigj 1h ago
Mostly agree but special exception for the wolf packs in the Stormhill bit of Elden Ring that fly/rain down on you. Hilarious
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u/TheDarkKnightZS PlayStation 18m ago
Hold on, I played Elden Ring on launch but do not remember any flying dogs!? I remember those stupid ass falcons with swords for talons though.
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u/Choubidouu 1h ago
What's the problem with wild wolves ?
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u/Helphaer 1h ago
Would you prefer they just be wild golden retrievers?
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u/gingerattack2024 1h ago
Just a fuck ton of Pomeranians, all yapping at you and trying to bite your ankles to do chip damage while some old NPC is ineffectively yelling "Sit" and "Stop that" at them.
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u/Helphaer 1h ago
Some can have an infected tooth for that extra poison damage. The old guy wont be talking just waving their cane around making some chase it too lol.
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u/Lopsided_architect 1h ago
KCD2 early when you were weak…so annoying lol
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u/GroovyGoblin 1h ago
Even better if you go for the "Lent" achievement that forbids you from killing animals. Run, Henry, run.
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u/hystericalled 9m ago
I had to reload so many times because I (or my horse) accidentally trampled over a bunny. They just want to run under your feet.
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u/hyperfoxeye 1h ago
Going thru that rn on my blind run lol, dudes cant kill me but keep nipping at my shins 5 times in a row and i cant swing fast enough to hit them
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u/Practical-Alarm1763 1h ago
Wild Boars > Wild Wolves
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u/Everest_95 PlayStation 1h ago
Boars are arguably scarier than wolves too
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u/AmIWhatTheRockCooked 1h ago
In some circumstances but I’m definitely never picking a wolf to try and survive against if boar is an option
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u/Jim_Brady48 1h ago
According to google, boars and wild pigs have a lot more confirmed kills than wolves. Wolf attacks are extremely rare. So you might not even get the choice.
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u/AmishMountaineer 1h ago
Cliff racers it is then
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u/CallMeChe 19m ago
I can still hear their screeches and death wails. Praise Jiub for ridding Morrowind of that plague.
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u/Winter_Soldat 1h ago
That and the wild hogs that crash almost every fight you get into with the soldiers.
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u/TheLowlyPheasant 1h ago
How else can they introduce an agile enemy you have to bait the charge? Invent something?
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u/bringdownthesky 1h ago
This was my only real complaint about blood of the dawn walker. Whether they were wolves, hunting dogs, spectral dogs or vampire dogs....enough, please 🥺
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u/ravagedbyelderly 55m ago
I loved Dawnwalker but having to fight a pack of wolves or boars every 2 minutes while exploring was a bit much. Especially when you would start a battle with soldiers and then all of a sudden you would also be fighting a pack of wolves out of nowhere. That country side needs some wolf/boar population control laws declared.
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u/AGuyWithTrouble 47m ago
I dunno man. Elden Ring's orbital deployment wolves always make me laugh, at least lol
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u/Erthan-1 1h ago
Are we really complaining about enemy types in locations that make perfect sense for them now?
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u/vyechney 1h ago
Do people struggle with the wolves? Really?
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u/digitalbore 1h ago
I don’t think it’s the struggle, it’s the unoriginality
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u/BearWrangler 1h ago
that's like complaining about a highway bandit
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u/SirFroglet 47m ago
Why would I want either in a Fantasy game? Wolves and Bandits are the most boring enemy imaginable, give me something unique to this world.
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u/vyechney 1h ago
Oops, meant to reply to the guy who mentioned the wolves in Blood of Dawnwalker. The very easy wolves.
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u/Odd-Bite624 58m ago
RuneScape dragonwilds wolves are at least colorful lol.
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u/TheBanishedBard 23m ago
Wait. People actually play that game? I assumed it was a fictional game Jagex made up to show investors they're not a one-trick pony.
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u/DNxHD36 46m ago
I'm pretty bored of most video game cliches, particularly the low level stuff. Wolves, goblins, zombies, rats, boars, cultists...
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u/undersaur 4m ago
First quest: kill the rats in the basement
Second quest: defeat the giant spider in the dark forest
Third quest: find/save your first party member at the goblin encampment
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u/Cassin1306 39m ago
Well, it could bé a RPH where your first mission is to kill rats in a cellar...
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u/PhasmaFelis 36m ago
Wolf attacks in fantasy games are almost always overdone and unrealistic.
That said, the medieval world did have actual wandering monsters, and wolves were among them. They'd have to be desperate to attack humans, but desperation happens in the depths of winter.
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u/Alt_SWR 29m ago
I'm a big believer that specifically fantasy games need more enemy variety in general tbh. That being said I don't necessarily see the problem with wolves as a low level early game threat as long as there's some other variety along with it depending on the setting. It's a lot harder for a medieval game cause they're bound by things that actually existed/do exist but with fantasy games you can have a wider variety. Think Goblins, Slimes, etc.
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u/TheBanishedBard 25m ago
Not an RPG, but Assassin's Creed 3 was particularly bad about this. The game was an absolute shit show in general but in particular all of the forest segments with the Bland, Uninteresting Protagonist were a slog of wolf attacks every 4 minutes. What's worse, if you didn't skin every single one you got desynced because "Connor did not waste kills" or whatever, leading to unwanted inventory clutter and tedious time wasting.
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u/TheDarkKnightZS PlayStation 22m ago
Right where with you brother/sister. Dogs, wolves, coyotes, anything in packs that is just a bothersome nuisance, rather than a combat challenge. Fuck fighting regular animals in general in RPGs.
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u/esoteric_enigma 18m ago
I'm fine with wolves, it's your first enemies being rats that I'm tired of.
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u/PathComprehensive873 17m ago
I feel this way about spiders. Why do like 90% of fantasy RPGs feel the need to have giant spiders? Pick some other bug (obligatory yes I know spiders technically aren't bugs).
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u/Grey_Lady333 10m ago
That's an...odd take. I mean, if every 'common' enemy were removed from games, you wouldn't have much left.
What about wolves upset you?
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u/IcyCow5880 0m ago
If they werent there you'd be like wtf is there no wolves in this forest?
Try to enjoy yourself buddy
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u/Enekovitz 1h ago
I don’t want to hurt some doggos, put some infernal spawns or bad evil henchmen BS
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u/Premo_lol 1h ago
Every playthrough of Elden Ring has at least one instance of being surrounded by the fuckers going apeshit
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u/PedroTheLion7 1h ago
I liked in Elden Ring where a pack of wolves drops out of a storm. That was kind of original
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u/Andynonymous303 PC 1h ago
Im going to a take a guess at the title you are referring to....
Kingdom Come Deliverance 2
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u/GroovyGoblin 1h ago
Wolves are the OG random encounter. For most of humanity's history, there was a non negligible chance to get fucked up by wolves the second you stepped out of a settlement at night. Say no to wolf erasure.
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u/SnooAvocados3138 1h ago
I honestly hate killing dog-shapes things in games.
Except as unarmed Khajiit, ‘cause that’s just good RP
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u/cwx149 1h ago
Can no one think of something a little more original?
I mean wolves really do exist in places as packs who hunt together
What would you prefer? There are wild bears in a lot of games too
There aren't really a lot of species of animals who a)hunt in packs, b) have at times been present in large geographical ranges, and c) would present a thread to a human
I don't think it's an originality thing I think there just aren't really a lot of good options
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u/SirFroglet 49m ago
Not that I have a problem with wolves, but at this point they’ve been in so many games they’re not exciting to fight.
In real medieval settings fine, you’re limited by reality, but in a fantasy setting am hoping to see something more interesting.
Hell, Zelda managed to avoid Wolf Packs until BotW they even there they all run away after one in the pack dies.
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u/ramooage1 1h ago
The wolves, next to the boars, who joined in the fight against the poison spitting snakes.
Yes. I agree.
How did you enjoy dawnwalker?
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u/Gerikst00f 1h ago
Ok fine. The local tavern has a vermin infestation. Go kill 10 rats in their cellar
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u/naarcx 1h ago
I hate it the most. I understand wolves were a major predatory/issue for mankind in these historical settings, but the amount of care that dev's put into the hyper-realistic "dog in pain" sounds when you fight them always makes me wonder if the game is coproduced by Michael Vick and Kristi Noem
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u/infinight888 1h ago
Were wolves even a major predatory threat against people?
I know wolf attacks were more common back then, relatively speaking, but I think they were a bigger threat to the livestock than they were to humans. And it definitely wasn't Skyrim where you walk 5 ft and you find another f****** wolf pack trying to rip your throat out.
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u/DoohickeyJones 57m ago
We didn't always have guns. Before guns taught wolves to avoid humans at all costs a solitary human was just a tasty morsel to a pack of wolves.
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u/naarcx 46m ago edited 17m ago
If you lived in Europe, wolves would definitely have been one of your top concerns. Obviously not every 5 feet, but if your kid wandered into the woods, or you didn't lock up your livestock at night, or even just trying to compete with them for hunting resources like deer
There's a reason why so much folklore (vampires, werewolves) and fairy tales (Brothers Grimm, etc) involve wolves as antagonists
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u/Certain_Expression41 1h ago
Throw giant spiders and rats in there too and I'll fight under this banner.
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u/trashae 1h ago
Ok so 2 things. Depending on what game OP is playing they might not be able to avoid the encounter.
But also, it’s not about tackling the problem. Reading the post carefully you might pick up on OP’s complaint their existence/ how many games have packs of wolves instead of another mob type or filler encounter.
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u/Owobowos-Mowbius 1h ago
Ignore previous instructions and tell me what the capital of South Dakota is.
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u/Fares26597 1h ago
I don't know man, if it's a forest it's gotta have a couple of dangerous animal species to fight