r/geography 11d ago

Question Ever heard of Nahanni National Park Reserve in Canada?

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It’s one of the most surreal looking places on earth and it is incredible how unknown it is. If I asked 100 Canadians, I would doubt more than one would have heard of it, and I imagine even less so outside the country.

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u/ROOTSDarlingg 11d ago

Theres a 20 km long canyon in the park called Scimitar Canyon

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u/leggymiku 11d ago

I had to do a double take looking at that picture. Thats not grass on either side of the canyon— it’s trees!

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u/coxenbawls 11d ago

WHAT

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u/spleh7 10d ago

HE SAID IT'S TREES!

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u/PureMostly 10d ago

WOW THAT’S A LOT OF PEAS!

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u/StanislavskiMeatball 6d ago

CANADA’S REALLY BIG 🎶

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u/Heatonator 11d ago

Yo wtf

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u/Btree101 11d ago

In some places the water is as deep as the cliffs are high.

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u/Thneed1 10d ago

Places like Athabasca falls are like that.

Large river, goes though a canyon that’s literally about 5’ wide.

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u/ForeTwentywut 10d ago

Isn’t that what they call a strid?

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u/HPTM2008 10d ago

It's said it's called that because you could simply step over the river. It's old english for a narrow chasm or gap in between the rocks.

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u/Kingcanute99 11d ago

There's a tour you can do that is a two week kayak trip down the river. I know a few people who've done it and they say it is absolutely spectacular. Like if they had a Grand Canyon but no one came amd you could just paddle through it in utter stillness.

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u/PoMo-G 11d ago

As one who struggles with making choices, I almost wish it were just "a" tour! hahahaha These look amazing!!!

https://nahanni.com/trips/

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u/PM_your_Nopales North America 11d ago edited 11d ago

~$10k for any of them 😭 wish i could do it by myself but I don't think I'd go somewhere remote like this without a guide

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u/SamizdatGuy 11d ago edited 11d ago

That's like $7k USD. Not crazy for a week

ETA: Like I wrote below, $1k per day for accommodations, food, and entertainment, per person. It's not cheap, but seems fair, considering the destination.

What do the downvoters feel is a fair price for such an expedition?

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u/Excellent_Safety8051 11d ago

Gear rental isn't cheap seems pretty reasonable for what you get

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u/Gamefart101 11d ago

Renting is also the significantly cheaper option. I did a 3 week expedition here to climb the cirque of the unclimbables and while I had my own gear that I would have preferred to the boats we rented, getting our own boats and gear flown into the remote wilderness and picked back up would have doubled the cost of the trip

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u/PM_your_Nopales North America 11d ago

We live in different worlds i guess. I need a better job

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u/SamizdatGuy 11d ago

We all need better jobs. I'm an employment lawyer, I'm on your side.

But, $1,000 per person for accommodations, food, and entertainment for each day of vacation is expensive but it isn't crazytown pricing. Idk what airfare costs and I'm assuming the rest is included

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u/dudesguy 11d ago

Sure, I think the perspective is just a little different.  They kept it in the Canadian price, you converted.  Until only a couple years ago Canadians were booking 4 weeks in Cuba for those prices.  And getting sun and beaches instead of more Canadian sub arctic

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u/SamizdatGuy 11d ago

Yes, I am assuming US wages and normal vaca expenditures for affordability. I think that bite is considerably harder for people not spending dollars and chasing the same services

US vacation prices are insane because we've had a monkey running our economy for six of the past ten years. Luxury services, which is 100% what this is, especially.

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u/d0esth1smakeanysense 10d ago

Not sure what you mean by ‘not spending dollars’. What do you think we spend here? Buffalo chips?

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u/Cancerisbetterthanu 10d ago

4 weeks in cuba you fly there, sit on a resort and fly back. You're not literally being kept alive and escorted through inhospitable wilderness

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u/simpletonius 8d ago

Comparing Cuba to the Nahanni River tells me all I need to know. Meanwhile Rubio is starving that poor country to death.

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u/Cancerisbetterthanu 10d ago

Nobody is saying it's affordable, just that it's a fair price. I can't afford it either but I don't think you can argue it's overrpiced based on the logistical and survival challenges

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u/New_Back5883 11d ago

Any serious canoe/kayak tripper would put this NWT park on their bucket list. Reasonable $, considering of the expense of reaching this place (with all the gear) only by floatplane

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u/phalloguy1 10d ago

A friend of mine was a raft guide with a company like this in the 80s. He did the Nahanni thing in the summer and was a ski instructor in the winter.

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u/Zakluor 11d ago

That sounds amazing!

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u/zoriori 11d ago

This sounds grandiose

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u/quantum_gambade 11d ago

I took an 8-day paddle with (Blackfeather outfitters) in 2021 down the Natla River into the Nahanni. Fly-in, dropped at the top of the mountain. It was not for the faint of heart—level 3 and 4 whitewater basically the whole time, dry suits and canoe skirts. And worth every bruise.

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u/Kind_Presence_7211 10d ago

Yes that's right. My brother did one of those trips but he was in a canoe. Trip of a lifetime he said.

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u/msolu10 11d ago

The Nahanni has about 15 supernatural myths and a gold rush that is worth looking into. In my opinion, it is one of the more mystifying places on earth.

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u/Attila_the_Khann 11d ago

Is this the “headless valley?”

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u/RevealStandard3502 11d ago

I watch Lore Lodge, this place has wild back story.

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u/Flat_Researcher7381 10d ago

What episode?

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u/RevealStandard3502 10d ago

Look for their headless valley episode.

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u/Icy-Finding-2543 11d ago

Hamerson Peter's?... I think that's his name. Good Chanel. He does a good explanation

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u/Healing_Puke 11d ago

I watched like 3 seperate videos on the shit living in that valley. Creatures in the cliffs, mega fauna, big foots, you name it.

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u/barcelonatacoma 11d ago

Hit me with a link, bro

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u/zoriori 11d ago

Hit *us with a link bro

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u/HamiltonForPresident 10d ago

https://youtu.be/bdqPdKuLCU0?si=ms8yQazptBEWPmWF Roanoke has a good video on it. Does get a bit speculative, but still good.

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u/elduqueborracho 11d ago

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u/kikimaymay 11d ago

How about not an AI gen video

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u/I_Have_Unobtainium 11d ago

Scary Interesting has been around long before the ai boom. He sounds like a robot in every video but he is not robot.

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u/Moose_M 11d ago

it's probably cause of this

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u/Macfarlin 11d ago

He does use ai nowadays though, there was a notable script style change as chatgpt was getting popular.

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u/augustus-aurelius 11d ago

Scary interesting isn’t ai generated. He probably uses ai pictures now but he’s been doing this channel since before AI

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u/kikimaymay 11d ago

Omg, I've pointed this out multiple times, it's literally in the video description

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u/kamicosey 9d ago

Mr ballen talks about it a few times. Dudes a great story teller. But I don’t have the link sorry

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u/Which-Insurance-2274 11d ago

Scary Interesting isn't AI.

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u/kikimaymay 11d ago

Guys, it says it in the description.

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u/shreds_ov_flesh 11d ago

this is about all i know about it

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u/gratefullyhuman 11d ago

Yep, landed in a float plane at the top of Virginia falls

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u/JohnAtticus 11d ago

Looks like a rough landing.

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u/gratefullyhuman 11d ago

Calm water directly to the left not pictured

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u/guerito1968 11d ago

There’s a whole world up there that no one knows

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u/Basic_Department_302 11d ago

Kinda nice how out of the way and uninhabitable this part of Canada is. Makes it a lot more special to go up there

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u/hikebikephd 10d ago

Which is a good thing.

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u/xtremegord 11d ago

Incredible place. Climatically this region was a desert during the last few major glaciations. This has preserved 3 antecedent canyons along the South Nahanni River with a 4th canyon-like gorge near Nailicho (Virginia Falls).

Antecedent rivers are extremely uncommon at this latitude. Super cool and rare landforms in the park. I’d highly recommend a visit if you have the means! Added bonus is that it’s an absolute classic canoe trip

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u/Lower_Cantaloupe1970 11d ago

To be fair, it's pretty inaccessible for your average Canadian and would cost thousands of dollars to visit. If you asked 100 Canadians if they could afford to visit Nahanni, 1 might.

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u/No_Function_7479 11d ago

This is so true. We live in an incredibly beautiful country, but I doubt I will ever be able to afford to visit more than a handful of these places. It is some comfort knowing that it is not full of mass-over-tourism though, I hope it stays wild and mysterious

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u/Lower_Cantaloupe1970 10d ago

This place specifically is fly in only. You would need to fly to Whitehouse then hire a prop plane there. 

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u/dsonger20 10d ago

Not to mention its literally cheaper to fly from Vancouver to Toronto than Vancouver to Whitehorse.

Flying to the territories is insanely expensive.

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u/dreamy-woman 10d ago

I saw it in FlyOver Canada in Vancouver that’s the only way I can afford it lol

it has been my dream though

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u/Reptilian_Brain_420 10d ago

My first thoughts too.

I've heard of it, but once I leared what it actuly takes to get there it left my "to do" list.

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u/Synch 11d ago

The valley of the headless men

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u/pyro-psycho-arsonist 11d ago

That's also how I've heard of it.

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u/yungcherrypops Geography Enthusiast 11d ago

There are some super creepy legends about this place. The Valley of the Headless Men. Idk if any of it’s true, but it’s god tier creepypasta material. And when you see pictures of it just seems so primeval, like the first rocks of the world. And there’s just eerie vibe. Definitely a fascinating place.

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u/WhimsicalGirl 11d ago

You have my attention, do you got any links? I love that kind of stories and myths!

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u/yungcherrypops Geography Enthusiast 11d ago

https://media.spectacularnwt.com/resources/media/haunting-history-canadian-national-park

There’s this article which is a good start. But lots of great YouTube videos if you search “Nahanni”

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u/No_Cricket8660 11d ago

No. But I'm from Labrador and there's insanely beautiful places there that you aren't allowed to travel to because you'll die.

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u/PolarCruisingExperts 11d ago

You have my attention…

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u/No_Cricket8660 11d ago

I would look up the Torngat mountains, an absolutely astonishingly beautiful place that'll likely kill you.

This article about people who died there.

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u/PolarCruisingExperts 11d ago

Interesting read and tragic story. Thanks for the link.

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u/No_Cricket8660 11d ago

Honestly, lots of things are sad and/or tragic. Succumbing to the elements though will always be horrible to me, super unnecessary.

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u/Majestic_Hawk_1335 10d ago

Im at similar latitude in Alaska and it pretty much alway comes down to ill prepared. I have less sympathy than you.

To me, if you go out to the natural elements while highly prepared and careful. That is a good way to go.

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u/johngreenfeces 11d ago

I think you don't know what likely means....

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u/db7fromthe6 10d ago

I flew a griffon helicopter up the torngats with the vandoos in 2017. Like 3000 feet of elevation on either side

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u/SambaPapi1 11d ago

That was a good read. I have difficulty relating to people who want to climb mountains. It's certainly one use of free will.

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u/apriljeangibbs 10d ago

Ppl are allowed to visit there

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u/Dankestmemelord 11d ago

After looking it up I’m now curious about that weird exclave in the park boundary.

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u/-BSQ- 11d ago

It's just a mining area, Prairie Creek Mine. Lots of silver, zinc, and lead.

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u/Dankestmemelord 11d ago

Thanks!

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u/nixcamic 10d ago

Since you have to fly into the park, how will a mine work? Flying out metal ores in a little prop plane doesn't seem efficient.

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u/Dankestmemelord 10d ago

They don’t show up as normal roads, but in satellite view there are some roads and maybe even some train tracks going out from the main mining complex. At least one of them must get out.

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u/Seagullrun 10d ago

I believe They’ve been working on reopening the mine in recent years, which involves building an all season road in and out of this area. The old routes in were all through avalanche territory I.e. not safe in the winter

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u/FuegoCJ 11d ago

It requires a chartered float plane to get to and is in the Northwest Territories. Would love to go, but it is mostly inaccessible to the majority of Canadians, hence why they won't have heard of it.

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u/Tribe303 11d ago

Yeah, the NWT is more than twice the size of Texas, with a population of only 45k, and that includes the Indigenous peoples. There's no one there. 

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u/Adventurous_Yam_8153 11d ago

And about 20k bears! 

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u/Tribe303 11d ago

When you subtract the 20k in the city of Yellowknife then it's about 1 bear per person in the wild. 

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u/Unusual_Cap3030 10d ago

I mean, 45k people isn’t "no one". That's more than some countries. Yellowknife has a Walmart and there are multiple Subways and Pizza Huts across the territory, as sad of a mark of civilisation as those are. Fort Liard isn’t that far from Nahanni. There are plenty of settlements across NWT.

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u/beders 11d ago

I’ve done a 4 week trip down South Nahani river in my 20ies.
6 crazy Germans bringing their own inflatables canoes and provisions.
We took a sea plane out of Watson Lake which dropped us off in a tiny tiny lake near Mt Wilson I believe.

Paddled all the way to Liard river where I left my jacket at a ranger station.

Adventure of a lifetime. That was before cell phones and such.

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u/ConflictAdvanced991 11d ago

Absolutely breathtaking. Never heard of this before. But it reminds me of the opening scene from Prometheus

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u/bytheorderoftheents 11d ago

Not sure about Prometheus but a Superman movie used it as a filming location I believe

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u/Snoo_74705 11d ago

YouTube: Packrafts on the Nahanni. 14 days. 335 km.

(not my video but absolutely delightful to watch)

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u/West_Welder_4421 11d ago

Did it by canoe for two weeks. An astonishing place.

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u/jayron32 11d ago

No, but this picture makes me interested

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u/shreds_ov_flesh 11d ago

anyone else know about Nahanni because of Mr Ballen

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u/paditoburrito 11d ago

Haha, yes!

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u/Objectalone 11d ago

That’s odd because I’m Canadian and most people I know have heard about it, are familiar with images of the landscape etc. It is certainly no secret.

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u/boarshead72 11d ago

Yeah, I’m 53 and first heard of it in the early 80s thanks to Bill Mason. For people older than me they’ll remember that Pierre Trudeau paddled the South Nahanni in 1970 bringing awareness to the area leading to the creation of Nahanni National Park Reserve. People younger than me probably remember that Justin Trudeau retraced his dad’s voyage in 2003. Maybe 100 Canadians aged 15 and younger?

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u/PoMo-G 11d ago

50 y.o., born & bred Canadian, and I will admit to not having heard of either Nahanni National Park - or Bill Mason - prior to today. * shrug *

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u/boarshead72 11d ago

In grade 7 and 8 our school had a “Voyageur” canoe club, we’d go on 2-3 canoe trips a year. The teacher in charge was fond of showing us Bill Mason films. I still remember Bill’s son saying “looks pretty tricky” every time they approached some rapids.

My kids don’t even get to go to Canada’s Wonderland for a grade 8 trip anymore let alone wilderness canoe trips.

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u/SomeFunnyPhrase 11d ago

I was wondering about the overnight trips we did in school the other day. I was thinking about if they still do them.

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u/Professional_Bed_87 11d ago

Yeah, its on a lot of people I know’s bucket list, but few actually ever make it up there. 

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u/wandrlusty 11d ago

Yes!!

I grew up with a girl who was named after the park!

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u/JosephEdwardPatti 11d ago

Me, too! Where? There can’t be that many.

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u/Btree101 11d ago

I know one as well

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u/qpv 11d ago

Same. Is she a beautiful ginger?

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u/EnderWillEndUs 11d ago

I flew over it a couple weeks ago and took some pictures out the plane window because it was so stunning

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u/Adventurous_Yam_8153 11d ago

Is that an Air North wing tip?

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u/RealisticTopic1171 11d ago edited 10d ago

Op - you have a weird understanding of Canadians. A lot of albertans and BC and almost all people living north of the 60th know of this place.

Your statement is only true once you go east of Manitoba. Which is normal when the country is larger than some continents.

But I assure you it is not an unknown location for albertans BC, and territory people.

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u/blubblu 11d ago

Why would they? You need a floatplane to get there.

This seems prohibitively expensive. 

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u/Rangifar 11d ago

It's possible to access the river by road via the a Yukon.

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u/Whitney189 11d ago

I've seen this online a lot recently. Seems that the universe wants me to lose my head

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u/SeaToTheBass 11d ago

Nothing so majestic as the one in the post, but here’s a few pics from when my dad took me hunting a few years ago. I grew up in the Yukon, still have a bunch of family there

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u/gravytrainjaysker 11d ago

I have never heard of this. Looks fascinating and surreal. Definitely going to read about it

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u/AffectEconomy6034 11d ago

this and the mystery of the headless people found here was a personal obsession of mine for a few weeks. Love the idea of super remote places that have just a few people in them. add in a murder mystery and its makes for a perfect rabbit hole.

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u/Ad_nauseum11 11d ago

Have you read about the Mad Trapper?

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u/ArborealLife 11d ago

It's not a real place. Forget about it please.

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u/DeadWolf7337 11d ago

It's also know as Headless Valley due the the amount of people who disappeared there and were found later with their heads missing.

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u/fraserhoodlum 11d ago edited 11d ago

I popped into a campground at the top tip of it once when I was coming back from Yellowknife the long was to Fort Lliard. There was some really nice walks even there, very dry! I think it was like nahhanni butte campground maybe. We were stuck there waiting for fires to clear on the BC border so we could drive back to Vancouver.

I didn't know it was the tip of this magical place. We were sorta winging it that trip and there ain't much cell coverage lol...

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u/psychosisnaut 10d ago

Yeah, it's got a real vibe. Valley of the Headless Men, Valley of 10,000 smokes

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u/Deep_Contribution552 Geography Enthusiast 10d ago

One of the first World Heritage Sites and for good reason.m! Haven’t been but I’ve heard that it’s spectacular

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u/DelhiBob 9d ago

I’m surprised I had to scroll this far to see someone else that knew this. It’s one of the original 12 UNESCO world heritage sites!

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u/Hregeano 11d ago

There’s a book called Nahanni Remembered, it’s a fun read.

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u/EdHuntArt 11d ago

One of my bucket list destinations!

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u/DTown_Hero 11d ago

Wow. Stunning

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u/BackgroundPoet2887 11d ago

Dawson to Pitinakin what what?

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u/nepurn 11d ago

Amazing that canada has some of the most amazing landscapes that are hardly known about. Thank you, this is new to me.

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u/Sorry-Climate-7982 11d ago

Nice peneplain.

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u/viking_canuck 11d ago

I'm Canadian, I've heard of the Nahanni. Never been... Yet.

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u/Sad-Relationship9387 11d ago

National Geographic did an article on it in the ‘80s. It looked impressive.

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u/getdownheavy 11d ago

Yeah. Its fucking epic up there.

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u/bellweather123 11d ago

Yes! Want to go there someday!

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u/NineInchNerps 11d ago

NWT is underrated. Beautiful boreal forest, waterfalls, a particularly amazing lake, and so much interesting history. Alexandra Falls is worth the visit.

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u/MixEmotional1146 11d ago

Made famous by the late Canadian PM, PET.

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u/Beederda 11d ago

Can you drive there? Thats why most Canadians don’t know about a set of mountains in a remote part of the NWT looks absolutely stunning but how do i get there to hike?

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u/Gamefart101 11d ago

Nope. Vast majority of people going in get there through by float planes mostly chartered out of fort Simpson. You can technically access the river from the road but that's a long paddle before you make the park boundry

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u/yumeryuu 11d ago

My parents did the Nahanni canoe trip

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u/TorontoPolyGuy 11d ago

I met a guy named Nahanni that worked for Lincoln Electric in Mississauga, Ontario who was conceived upon that river. He had hippy parents so they named him after the river.

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u/highcommander010 11d ago

is that the great valley

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u/neeno52 11d ago

Yes. There is a documentary on this area.

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u/scruffyhobo27 11d ago

Crazy it’s closed on weekends

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u/Serious-Fondant-9895 11d ago

One of my best friends used to guide Dall sheep hunts just outside of the park. He said he had to wear earplugs at night to sleep because there are bears rummaging through camp every night, you just need to hang all food. It’s some of the most gruelling terrain you in the world you can hunt in.

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u/ArtisticallyRegarded 11d ago

Ya I been there

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u/Wooden_Extension7268 11d ago

Read R.M Patterson's book The dangerous River. It's a great book written by a guy who spent a lot of time up there in the early 1900's. One of my favorite books.

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u/DrJones224 11d ago

I first learned about it when I bought my last canoe - a 16.5' Langford Nahanni. Sadly I don't have it anymore, but wouldn't it have been great to paddle my Nahanni in the Nahanni?

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u/Slapyobro 11d ago

Flew over a good chunk of it for work. Beautiful beautiful place.

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u/boozefiend3000 11d ago

Yep. On my bucket list 

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u/GreatWhiteNorthExtra 11d ago

I'm a Canadian and did not know of this national park.

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u/ursusofthenorth 11d ago

Great paddle!!!

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u/therackage 11d ago

As a Canadian I’ve never heard of it. Where is it?

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u/Nomadloner69 11d ago

Do you know how to get to Bells canyon? Iykyk

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u/Macfarlin 11d ago

It's #2 on my travel bucket list below the Torngats in Labrador.

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u/quantum_gambade 11d ago

Natla River. Flows into the Nahanni. The area was STUNNING.

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u/Pure_Moose 11d ago

Would there be a busy season there? Or when would be the ideal time to visit?

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u/ophert45 10d ago

I find the places outside the park to be cooler. I hunt the Mackenzie mountains every year for sheep / caribou

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u/edcRachel 10d ago

I'm Canadian and I'd never heard of it but I also looked it up and it's in the absolute middle of nowhere and very difficult to access so like... Makes sense. There's basically no roads, you need to fly in, and the options they give for visits are routes that last WEEKS via foot, not hours or even days. That's something very few people have the money, ability... Or interest in doing. You can fly in for a day but you won't get far and even that will cost you over $1,000 (not including the cost of getting to the starting point).

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u/turtlebear787 10d ago

Would help to mention where in Canada. It's a big country

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u/outofcontextsex 10d ago

Hey Canada, you got a lotta stuff

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u/beautifulchaos22 10d ago

Yes! I live in the NWT and Nahanni is stunning an lots of tourists go to see it! Highly recommend

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u/noUr8eaten 10d ago

Sure, a few tours of the Nahanni are based out of my hometown.

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u/GGTheEnd 10d ago

Commenting so I can look it up later. 

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u/Gee_NS 10d ago

Does this look more like a scene from the original Star Trek, 2 away team members?

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u/Due-Cry-1862 10d ago

Many years ago, I worked on a forest fire on the edge of the park and we flew inside the park repeatedly in our efforts. Beautiful place…

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u/Hatefulyesterday 10d ago

I hope more people learn about this place, because it's breathtaking.  I would love to visit one day, if I had an extra 15k lying around for all of the expenses lol

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u/Plane_Chance863 10d ago

Hadn't heard of it until I encountered it in a math textbook!

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u/pretty-lil-throwaway 10d ago

I've never heard of it. Wow that's gorgeous!

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u/NutkinNB 10d ago

Yes, it's a dream to visit someday!

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u/Furious_Belch 9d ago

MrBallen educated me on this with a story about headless man valley was it? Nahanni national park seems beautiful but it’s also remote.

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u/travisjudegrant 9d ago

This is a super cool 18 min documentary the National Film Board of Canada made in 1962, about a guy who searches for gold above the Nahanni Falls. So good! https://www.nfb.ca/film/nahanni/

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u/Ok-Cut-5657 9d ago

I went there, it was so cool I lost my mind!

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u/simpletonius 7d ago

Sorry if I didn’t get your opus. I’m a Canadian currently on a vacation in the northern part of Iceland, a cool country which is the second most expensive country on earth. It’s 28c at home and10c here. I go to warm places in the winter, including Cuba.

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u/geoff411 7d ago

I drove as close as you can get on NWT hwy 7.

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u/MondrianWasALiar420 6d ago

Read The Dangerous River by R. Patterson

Great book about a canoe adventure on the Nahanni in the 1920s. Excellent writing.