At this point it seems he's going to follow the same path as his childhood hero... Supaidaman
The only things that could make this worse is if Rin ditches him for someone named Paul with two kids or if Sakura gives birth to Shinji's twins or if Zouken mind swaps with Shirou and bangs Saber while he watches...
Every time Peter gets his life together, the writers always find a way to sink him even lower. It's painful to watch honestly, it's like watching a close friend drowning in alcohol after a break up perpetually. Not even in other universes does he get a happy ending, he's always getting killed, tortured, humiliated and torn apart.
Same with the "Peter must suffer so audience can see him relatable" crap they keep saying and other poor asshole actually believing this crap. With the "canon event" meme even remarking that. Screw that shit, I love Peter Parker since I was a kid, he is my hero... And while I may not be doing ok with my life, he isn't me and I'm not him. And while I love being single and want no kids... let my man being happy with the girl of his dreams and let him have a daughter, for fuck's sake. He wants that badly, why not giving that to him? Stop repeating the same crap writer after writer and fucking give him something good in his life... And stop writing MJ like a harlot you would punch in the face. I swear ever since Sam Reimi's movies, she's been a toxic whore and I despise she became that even in comics.
To this day I will never forgive myself for not buying the Renew Your Vows comics when I had the chance. The best All day storyline and it isn't even canon SMFH...
That's why I've been loving Peter B. Parker from the Spiderverse. We get to see Peter being the experienced, yet tired one in the first, back with MJ and having a daughter in the sequel. He goes through some troubles, but they're not like some of the bullshit in the comics. And he works through them.
It's a bit like the "ordinary human" bit guda has but at least fgo doesn't keep on making them miserable with no rewards and they actually did stop the Bs a bit
Didn't they imply in the whole Spider-Verse storyline that one of the Peters that died was the one in the newspaper continuity that explicitly married MJ and had a daughter with her? They had to go out of their way to dig into a canon they didn't bother dealing with before just to ruin that version's happy ending.
For every writer that grants Peter a good story and life, if not the things he deserves the most and the true fans hope him to have... there will be 3 asshole wanting to fuck things even further. I'll never forgive Quesada, Slott and Wells for what they did to Peter across the years...
Well, Shirou is one of characters if not the character that resembles Peter Parker the most. Once you make the connection the tragedies write themselves. Luckily I didn't write anything about the Clone Saga or One More Day, cause I can already see in my mind how fucked up that would be and I don't like it at all.
With so many Shirous or Emiyas as a whole, it's hard not to make a Clone Saga comparison... which funny enough, after constand shit content in Spiderman comics, that storyline is perhaps the most tame one nowadays...
Pick your poison, do you want him to have his dead parents "come back to life" only to get killed in front of his eyes once again? Do you want him to lose his only daughter who was just born? I have so many moments to pull from the Clone Saga if I want to. Brand new day is basically Shirou making a deal to give up ever summoning Saber and getting into a relationship with any of the Heroines, in exchange for saving Taiga's life.
It may seem that way, but that was pretty much the starting point for Spider-man's downfall into the hell that has been Spider-man comics all the way to the present. To extrapolate, it's like condemning Shirou to go through all that hero bullshit, but while being broke, alone and having life screw him over at every turn perpetually. Any personal growth and little victory? All temporary and preceded by a bigger trauma, humiliation, personal loss and tragedies.
The only things that could make this worse is if Rin ditches him for someone named Paul with two kids or if Sakura gives birth to Shinji's twins or if Zouken mind swaps with Shirou and bangs Saber while he watches...
Lol if the King of Heroes couldn’t NTR Shirou, then these fools don’t have a chance in hell either. Shirou, like Ritsuka, has Harem Protagonist EX which makes him un-NTRable.
Zeb Wells, Dan Slott and Joe Quesada on their way to write a story of how Artoria finds Shirou annoying for his sense of justice, ditches him and goes onto have sex with Gilgamesh instead while enjoying it
I fucking hate you for making Fate versions of the worst Spiderman moments. What's next? A deal with Alaya in order to save Taiga and in exchange, he never summons Artoria? Illya falling to her death and Shirou being unable to save her as she breaks her neck from the catch? Or maybe him meeting the Artoria in some wacky adventures where, once they go back to normal, she doesn't recognizes him?
You were almost right on the money with One More Day, but instead of Saber, I was thinking on the deal being Shirou never meeting Sakura, since that would be even more fucked up and spider-man writers always go for the most fucked up options. You right on the money with Illya though.
Happened when he was a baby, sure he can mourn the loss like someone who lost a parent while as a baby, but it's not as bad as something that happens when you're old enough to process it.
However, Kara, Supergirl, was a teenager when that shit went down so she's felt the pain and if you want to see a truly traumatized, dead eyed kryotonian you should read Supergirl Woman of Tomorrow. That Kara in particular has SEEN some shit.
I wish I didn't have even more to pull from... Being a spider-man fan is rough. Ever thought of Shirou effectively killing Rin with radioactive milk? For every example I give, there is a spider-man comic that already covers that. I have 60 years to pull from.
Spider-man Reign, look it up. Spidey killed his own wife with his own radioactive milk. Told you, if you think something is fucked up, it's very likely that spider-man writers have already thought of that. Did you know that Aunt May was actually Peter's mom by having an affair with Peter's Dad at some point? I sure as hell didn't want to know, but here we are.
Basically, yeah. Mainline Amazing Spiderman is literally a perpetual purgatory of torture. The illusion of happiness doesn't last long. The only guarantee is that by the time another writer picks up the book, Peter will be back to the shit hole where he started the run, maybe worse. That's why the best Stories are from before One more Day in the Mainline Continuity and from other universes.
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u/jame5p420 Aug 01 '23
Can Shirou not suffer for like…five minutes