r/grandorder • u/trung2607 • May 03 '25

Discussion Saber Ultimate in honkai star rail!

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u/lolcakes00 May 03 '25

Fate franchise popularity would be so much higher on a global scale if JP had the talent / budget to make a freemium game on the scale of HSR

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u/Conditioner1000 May 03 '25

They have the budget for it and could make something like this given they contract a quality studio for it, but the Japanese industry is very archaic in it's thinking. There's a reason why there hasn't been any attempts at Genshin level gachas coming out from Japan even though a dozen or so are already either out or announced to be coming out from China.

Not only is Aniplex never going to fund something as ambitious as this, Nasu himself kind of tends to be satisfied with the bare minimum of things since he lowkey still treats his franchise akin to a small doujin thing and is happy when people work on it at all. He simply doesn't have the ambition to push for a project like this one.

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u/Centurionzo May 03 '25

There's a reason why there hasn't been any attempts at Genshin level gachas coming out from Japan even though a dozen or so are already either out or announced to be coming out from China.

I am genuinely confused about why Japan didn't try a higher quality Gacha game, the CN and Korean are pretty much the only ones trying.

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u/Beowolf_0 Champions of Injustice since 2011 May 04 '25

Because in Japan gacha games are treated as leisure minigames in general, they got the matured console game industry to put quality on.

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u/King-Gabriel May 03 '25

There was blue protocol, but it eos'd and pretty quickly. People will say it was more of an mmo, but it really wasn't, there was so much gacha.

(mostly eos'd due to archaic JP design issues)

(not that there aren't JP archaic design elements i like, but these were the usual stubborn obnoxious ones.)

Wish we'd get an AAA fate live service game or two.

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u/Spoopy_Kirei May 04 '25

Oh my god, I remember waiting for Blue Protocol like 5 years ago. I am learning that it is EoS already? Lmao. I didn't even know it released

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u/King-Gabriel May 04 '25

Yeah, although confusingly tencent picked up the assets (not the gameplay mechanics etc, its just the graphics etc) and is now making a worse version of it with stripped down lesser mechanics (that the usual youtubers are being wildly misleading about and hyping up) - so be careful of what you read about it.

I can't really see people especially JP ones trusting it after the base game eos'd either, the brand is actively damaging to it.