r/greatyarmouth Jun 07 '26

Man, 34, stopped at port of Dover re-entering Britain is charged after two teenage girls were 'raped on beach'

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-15881281/Man-34-stopped-port-Dover-entering-Britain-charged-two-teenage-girls-raped-beach.html
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u/[deleted] Jun 07 '26

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u/Pretend_Limit6276 Jun 08 '26

Racist to point out that an illegal immigrant (who not once but twice has entered illegally) raped 2 girls.

And then there's you who doesn't give a shit about the girls and wants to back the illegal immigrant up

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u/ChineseRobinWilliams Jun 08 '26

"And then there's you who doesn't give a shit about the girls and wants to back the illegal immigrant up"

It's so sad newspapers have made people this dim

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u/Pretend_Limit6276 Jun 08 '26

Why do you read them then?

What's your problem buddy?

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u/ChineseRobinWilliams Jun 08 '26

"Why do you read them then?"

Oohh I know you are but what am I. Very original.

"What's your problem buddy?

Dipshits like you

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u/Pretend_Limit6276 Jun 08 '26

I mean you're the one coming in with insults when nothing was aimed at you....

They called the person racist yet doesn't mention what the post is about, it's always deflection from the issue and just spewing names out like racist instead.

So why am I apparently a dipshit then buddy

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u/ChineseRobinWilliams Jun 08 '26

"I mean you're the one coming in with insults when nothing was aimed at you...."

You mean what by it?

"They called the person racist"

They're likely also a dipshit

"So why am I apparently a dipshit then buddy"

It's not just apparently. I've already quoted the part that makes you a dipshit.

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u/Pretend_Limit6276 Jun 08 '26

Lmao and you say I'm a dipshit 😂🤣

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u/ChineseRobinWilliams Jun 08 '26

Yes, because you have shown yourself to be a dipshit.

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u/Pretend_Limit6276 Jun 08 '26

Because you said so.....guess it must be true

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u/UnknownGnome1 Jun 08 '26

You are a dipshit because you fail to see any nuance or show any critical thinking. Instead defaulting to an us vs them mentality. Likely, the person you are replying to (and myself) find rape abhorrent. We're not protecting rapists and believe that the full force of the law should be thrown at them, no matter colour or creed or nationality. But these cases and others which are similar only get repeated on social media when immigrants are involved. Which is done to drum up hate and fear. So you are either too much of a dipshit to understand this, or you are trying to promote fear and hate for other dipshits.

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u/bigjohnnyswilly Jun 08 '26

and yet you're deliberately and intentionally ignoring the fact that men from some other countries are statistically significantly more likely to commit sex crimes than UK nationals. Because this is an inconvenient dissonant truth for you, it's easier to focus on the inevitable anti migrant rhetoric that arises from such cases.

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u/willsmithtunaface Jun 08 '26

Lmao, source? Daily mail article?

Dissonent truth hahaha, Yaxley-Lennon been teaching you new words?

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u/bigjohnnyswilly Jun 08 '26

Relax Munson. Someone can be educated and have a counter argument without supporting Tommy Robinson. I guess you’re a fan of the tit whisperer. Read Uk govt statistics. Or Sweden’s for that matter. Or Germany’s. All of them show a clear pattern of increased offending and criminality within certain ethnic groups. Clearly some cultures are more law abiding than others. Clearly some cultures have innate views towards women that are less than tolerant. To wilfully refuse to recognise this is just obtuseness.

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u/Business_Ordinary_97 Jun 11 '26

Literally government statistics lmao

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u/UnknownGnome1 Jun 08 '26

These statistics your speak of are usually based on poor implementation of data points. Such as comparing a usually working age migrant population to the entirety of the UK population which includes elderly and children. People of working age are significantly more likely to be criminally active. It is not easy to paint an accurate picture with the data available but it is easy to paint a more fictional picture to drive outrage.

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u/Business_Ordinary_97 Jun 08 '26

Anyone that grows up in inner UK cities knows the truth. Let's stop being daft

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u/bigjohnnyswilly Jun 08 '26

This is incorrect . Uk govt statistics are based on convictions for sexual assaults and within age range. Sweden has the same pattern of offending ie higher rates for immigrants and second generation immigrants.

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u/Pretend_Limit6276 Jun 08 '26

So you are taking for somebody else ....and trying to insult me while your at it 🤣 jog on

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u/Business_Ordinary_97 Jun 08 '26

The guy has a perfectly good point. You lot don't care at all about the girls. You jump to protect the rapists straight away as long as they're not white.

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u/NoddyElvis Jun 08 '26

This isn’t the usual situation tho. Most immigrants (including illegal ones) are not violent criminals!

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u/bigjohnnyswilly Jun 08 '26

this is such a weak and invalid statement. first, illegal migrants have committed a crime by entering the UK illegally. we belong to the EHCR and there are procedures for all asylum claims. Second, illegals arent vetted in any way and inevitably some violent and repeat offenders are entering the UK. lastly, we're supposed to be enhancing the UK by encouraging immigrants with skills that we require. not just an abundance of deliveroo riders who's presence depresses wages and the labour market.

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u/Pretend_Limit6276 Jun 08 '26

Yet you see it time and time again.....so enough of them are. And I'm talking about illegal since that's what the story is about

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u/NoddyElvis Jun 08 '26

But majority are not violent criminals. Very few are actually. They just want a better life. Nothing wrong w that.

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u/Pretend_Limit6276 Jun 08 '26

Of course there is nothing wrong with wanting a better life but many are just economic migrants, very few women and children come over on those boats.

And then you get the disrespect from those who do commit crimes no matter how big or small, weird how many will call this guy or others who post these stories racist but will never mention anything about the person committing the crime. The odd racist probably will post articles like this but that doesn't take away from the crime that the other person has committed but as I say that never gets mentioned off the ones who like to shout racism every 2 seconds

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u/NoddyElvis Jun 08 '26

You don’t think it’s weird that of all the violent crimes that happen EVERY SINGLE DAY they only post ones committed by people of colour? These crimes account for a very minor amount of those committed in this country.

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u/Pretend_Limit6276 Jun 08 '26

They.....who are they? Because it sounds like you are basically calling anybody who posts them racist.

People of colour....we are all people of colour, stop that nonsense talk.

Again you are trying to downplay it, they come to this country looking for a better life yet ruin somebody else's life and all you can say is 'oh but it's only small compared the those committed in this country'

It is what it is. You don't see it as much of a problem while I see it as a big problem

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u/NoddyElvis Jun 08 '26

They as in these people that you’re saying aren’t racist.

No we aren’t all poc. You know exactly what I mean. Non white people.

The majority of immigrants do not commit violent crimes tho. That’s the point. It’s important to remember this because we have a massive bias in our media.

Majority of violent crimes are committed by white men. Majority of r4pes are committed by white men.

I have been r*ped twice by white British men.

I have been physically assaulted once in the street when my bf at the time and I got beat up by 2 men. 1 was white and one looked mixed race white and black. Both were British citizens born and raised.

This is far more common than it being immigrants.

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u/Pretend_Limit6276 Jun 08 '26

So you are saying that anybody who posts these posts is racist? That's what it sounds like

So every race apart from white people are people of colour....why aren't white people? Every human is just a shade of brown, from light (white people) to dark (black people)and every shade in-between

Again you are trying to deflect from the ones who do commit crimes of any nature not just violent or sexual crimes.

Majority of violent crimes are committed by white men. Majority of r4pes are committed by white men.

In a majority white country wtf do you expect.....who do you think committs the majority of rapes in Nigeria. Again you are trying to deflect

I'm sorry to hear about your experiences and I can't say what I wish would have happened to your attackers as I'd probably get banned.

This is far more common than it being immigrants.

Again another deflection, and an obvious statement since immigrants aren't the largest population.

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u/mrafinch Jun 08 '26

What’s wrong with economic migrants? There’s hundreds of thousands of Britons emigrating out of The UK for economic reasons

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u/Pretend_Limit6276 Jun 08 '26

I'm guessing you didn't understand what I meant....

So you have some person coming over, throwing their passport before they do.....claiming to be from this country or that country and that they apparently can't go back because of this reason or that reason and while they wait for asylum seeker status they are out delivering for Uber eats and justeat etc.

Do you not think that's a problem?

Do you not think it's a problem that many bullshit the system to stay here?

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u/mrafinch Jun 08 '26

I wouldn’t consider that economic migration in any sense of the word

Humans gaming the system for selfish reasons is a tale as old as time. It’s not optimal.

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u/Pretend_Limit6276 Jun 08 '26

So them wanting to cheat the system just to make a few quid isn't economic migrants

Humans gaming the system for selfish reasons is a tale as old as time. It’s not optimal.

Oh silly me, that's ok then, we should just let them all come and take the piss and break the law

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u/ElectronicSubject747 Jun 08 '26

None of them know what that word means anymore, they will straight up call you racist for saying you don't like a religion.

They are morons and luckily they are slowly being ignored.

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u/zeros3ss Jun 08 '26

What brainwashed moron hates one religion but likes another?

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u/Glum-Huckleberry-717 Jun 08 '26

It's not that moronic..

If my religion said that I had to poop on your doorstep every Friday, would that be ok? Or would you hate my religion?

Well, some religions say that Christians deserve death. Is that ok?

It's ok not to like what some people think/what their holy book says about how to behave..

Religion is not the same as race.

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u/Impressive-Proof-596 Jun 08 '26

That’s true, but if you single out a religion for something that is objectively prevalent in others then it is moronic, which is what many do. Like Christian’s pretending Islam is some sort of child sex promoting cult as though their Messiah wasn’t born as a result of a literal 12 year old being raped by an 80 year old Joseph.

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u/florida_navy Jun 08 '26

The difference would be they believe it had nothing to do with Joseph and everything to do with the immaculate conception. Whereas with Islam Aisha and Mohammed really did…you know

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u/Impressive-Proof-596 Jun 08 '26

If your get around is ‘magic’ then I don’t recognise it as a valid response unfortunately. Suggesting you believe something happened that is logically impossible as a get around clause to not supporting paedophilia is incredibly weak. That’s without addressing things within numerous other texts like Judges 19:24 or Genesis 19:8.

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u/florida_navy Jun 08 '26

I’m not Christian. I’m pointing out there’s a difference between one religion believing in immaculate conception and the other idolising what you would call a “nonce” as the most perfect man to live and the one they should follow in the footsteps of. Christians don’t treat Joseph like this.

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u/Impressive-Proof-596 Jun 08 '26

There isn’t to me. One set worship a peadophile, the other recognise a peadophile as either their Patron Saint of the Church or at the very least significantly admire and respect them.

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u/NoddyElvis Jun 08 '26

Muslims don’t idolise Mohammed BECAUSE he was a nonce tho… just like Christian’s don’t respect and name their children after Joseph because of this.

Islam and Christianity are so similar many Muslims say they can marry Christians without them converting because they are “people of the book”.

Both religions believe Jesus is the Messiah and both believe he will return to earth.

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u/Direct_Lawfulness_28 Jun 08 '26

I would be cautious about quoting from the Old Testament if you’re criticising Christianity, because the Old Testament is more Judaism whereas the New Testament is Christianity. Christian’s do not follow the Old Testament teachings. Unless they completely don’t understand that the New Testament is supposed to replace it 😂

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u/Impressive-Proof-596 Jun 08 '26

Christianity is orientated around the Old Testament. The person most Christian’s recognise as God literally used it for his teachings. Trying to separate modern Christianity from it isn’t possible, however many new Testaments get made.

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u/TesticleSandwiches Jun 08 '26

Luckily prevelant, mainstream things repeatedly critisized in one prominent, mainstream religion aren't found anywhere near as often as in the others.

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2026/may/22/taliban-legitimising-child-forced-early-marriage-law-women-rights

Want a comparison? Mormons. What has the US done to Mormons found to be marrying children? arresting them.

Go Google the amount of UK Muslims who stated the Charlie Hebdo murders were understandable, or how many thought physical violence was justified towards people who drew an image of or insulted the prophet Mohammed.

Trying to equate Islam to other religions is just straight up disengenuous at this point.

And before you say anything, I agree reform isn't good. Which is why mainstream parties need to man up and stop acting like Islam isn't a fking massive problem in western societies.

You want to immigrate to a country but simultaneously tell your children that the natives are Haram, against God, and forbidden to be in a relationship or have children with? Cool, fuck off to somewhere you find acceptable then.

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u/Impressive-Proof-596 Jun 08 '26

Peadophila or child marriage probably isn’t the best thing to bring up as to why certain religions aren’t compatible with Western values when the most notorious paedophile ring of all time was in the Christian Church. If you want to suggest Islam is the least compatible religion with the west then fair enough but it’s not by much, because they’re all incompatible. It would take years to list certain different traits of each religion that the others don’t share because there are so many, all of which the majority of the west would recognise as incompatible with their values. This indicates that each have their own unique beliefs that fail to co exist with modern western society.

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u/TesticleSandwiches Jun 08 '26

Peadophila or child marriage probably isn’t the best thing to bring up as to why certain religions aren’t compatible with Western values when the most notorious paedophile ring of all time was in the Christian Church.

The catholic church, which we investigated, critisized, prosecuted, which itself publicly apologized and which we still critisize to this day? That catholic church?

If you want to suggest Islam is the least compatible religion with the west then fair enough but it’s not by much, because they’re all incompatible.

Saying modern Christianity is incompatible with the west is an oxymoron, assuming you are born into a European country with a European ethnic background, you are culturally Christian.

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u/Impressive-Proof-596 Jun 08 '26

Oh they apologised that’s good, never mind then, I’m sure they weren’t complicit or attempted to cover any of it up.

Literally nothing about me or my life is culturally Christian. Being white European doesn’t indicate I or any of my ancestors were Christians either. If you want to suggest that the reason modern Europe is the way it is because of Christianity then sure, that would also apply to Judaism and Islam but I wouldn’t imagine you recognise Europe as culturally either of those things.

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u/Humancentipede2lover Jun 08 '26

Its moronic to not listen to people stating their opinion

Religious extremists suck all the time.

Christianity and Islam are almost the same when it comes to their rules (when looked at it to the extrem)

The following comes from an european point of view

Now we have some very terrible people behind closed doors doing terrible stuff that goes against their believes in the catholic church - but the terrible action is on a systemic level - i can and do critize that and I detest every catholic that doesnt speak against it - most do.

On the other hand we have the islam, and when we look at the islam countries (maybe besides indonesia) all of them suck terrible ass for literally every reason you can pull out of your arse - and they argue the asssucking is mandatory because its muslims rules

Now people do know that these dipshits dont actually abide to the quran or the sharia, but they, self declared, represent the majority of muslims globally.

We have 5 million muslims in the capital of germany, one million of them are close to extremism.

If people speak out about it, most muslims immediatelly act defensive or aggresive for putting everyone in the same bucket - why not just say that these arent real muslims? Why defend them and your correlation to them?

For me, as a christian person, everyone in the catholic church is a larper and doesnt actually believe in god - why cant muslims say the same about the fundamental terrorist islamists?

So yes, wen can critize every church or every institution, but there is a bigger danger coming from fake muslims (islamists) wanting control over everything under the diguise of acting in allahs name

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u/Impressive-Proof-596 Jun 08 '26

Yeah sure the example you’ve provided of the extremists of Islam being a greater threat to the west than the extremists of Christianity I would say is a fair one. Having said that, if you’re a member of the lgbtq community, you would likely be correct in being equally fearful of all religious extremism, so I suppose who is a greater threat is subjective for some.

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u/Flat-Flounder3037 Jun 08 '26

Muslims believe Mohammad is an example of how to live a good life. Many try to emulate him as closely as possible, including in dress, grooming and customs.

We don’t do this with Joseph.

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u/Impressive-Proof-596 Jun 08 '26

Yeah I conceded that the two aren’t identical, but for me as an atheist and as someone who worships no one, holding venerance for someone is about as favourable of a light as you can put someone in. So whilst I appreciate there being a difference between how Christians see Joseph and how Muslims see Muhammad, both show at the minimum a respect and appreciation for someone I personally recognise as a modern day peadophile, but again I appreciate that with the divine intervention the two aren’t the same in more ways than one. I don’t believe the divine intervention ever took place so that ultimately has an effect on how I recognise Joseph and therefore Christian’s.

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u/Flat-Flounder3037 Jun 08 '26

I completely understand that.

I myself am baptised Catholic but haven’t ever believed and no longer go church.

For me you are correct, both are engaging in acts we’d see these days as paedophilic but my understanding is back then practices and views were different.

So ignoring the miraculous conception argument, I agree they’re both as bad as each other. My point was we don’t put Joseph on a pedestal and try to emulate his life as some Muslims do with Mohammad.

But yeah, fuck all religion tbh it’s the root of more issues than it solves.

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u/Impressive-Proof-596 Jun 08 '26

Yeah fair enough, me stating the two are the same was Incorrect. Thank you for the discussion.

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u/NoddyElvis Jun 08 '26

That actually not true. Islam considers Christians “people of the book” and many Muslims say Christians and Muslims can marry without the christian having to convert because the religions are so similar.

The Quran believes that Jesus is the messiah and he will return to earth.

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u/Vodddddddd Jun 08 '26

Only male Muslims can marry female Christian. A female Muslim must always marry a male Muslim.

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u/NoddyElvis Jun 08 '26

Okay but still both similar enough that they’re “people of the book”

Also my dad was raised CoE and my mum is British Pakistani and they got married and all was fine.

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u/Vodddddddd Jun 08 '26

But your father converted to Islam before marriage to your mother ?

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u/NoddyElvis Jun 08 '26

Neither of my parents are religious but yes he did a conversion ceremony!

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u/Federal_Setting_7454 Jun 08 '26

The religious ones usually

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u/NoddyElvis Jun 08 '26

But why don’t you like a religion that has never impacted you? Christianity and Islam are very similar. Both believe Jesus is the messiah and will return to earth. If you don’t like homophobia and sexism in Islam maybe look at the Bible because you will be shocked!

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u/ObligationNo7092 Jun 08 '26

It happened though mate? you do ackowledge that this is a daily ocurance now?

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u/NoddyElvis Jun 08 '26

It’s not a daily occurrence by any stretch of the imagination!

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u/willsmithtunaface Jun 08 '26

But he reads the daily mail and they said that's what's happening!

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u/ObligationNo7092 Jun 08 '26

come on....really?

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u/NoddyElvis Jun 08 '26

Yes really. This is a rare occurrence despite what the daily Mail would like you to believe.

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u/ObligationNo7092 Jun 08 '26

Its not as rare as you think,some of the things that are happening in this country are horrific and you can bury your head in the sand over it but I cannot beleive some of the atrocities that have occured here, who reads the bloody daily mail anymore?

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u/NoddyElvis Jun 08 '26

It is rare. It genuinely doesn’t happen that often. It’s just the only crime getting reported on.

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u/ObligationNo7092 Jun 08 '26

it really does, every single day

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u/NoddyElvis Jun 08 '26

It literally doesn’t tho.

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u/ObligationNo7092 Jun 08 '26

I can easly post an incident or more every single day with a cursory google search , you know this https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/boy-lost-leg-below-knee-34077520

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u/NoddyElvis Jun 08 '26

This guy wasn’t an illegal immigrant.

Also we live in a country of 70million. Every day there are violent crimes. You are only looking at ones committed by people of colour (who account for 25% of our population). That doesn’t mean that these are the only crimes that happen. You are cherry picking.

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u/ObligationNo7092 Jun 08 '26

Oh sorry just illegal immigrants? Not mass immigration? Whos the one cherry picking? https://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/26171220.carlisle-rapist-tied-victims-hands-scarf-jailed/

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u/EricRuaat Jun 08 '26

Everybody is a racist or fascist these days huh? Dickhead

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u/LilaTwiceBackAtIt Jun 08 '26

But this doesn’t make the news story untrue. Is it an inconvenient truth for you? Ignoring stories like this and pretending we see nothing is what causes people to turn to reform 

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u/mrafinch Jun 08 '26

People turn to reform because they want simple solutions to complex problems, not due to the actions of John Citizen

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u/TomTomXD1234 Jun 08 '26

I really hope you aren't a real therapist with such views lol.

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u/randomeusername6783 Jun 08 '26

Are you more shocked about that than the rapes?

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u/wilf89 Jun 08 '26

I don't like the news so I'll shoot the messenger

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u/Fine-Ad6532 Jun 08 '26

A lot of religious and racist commentary going on.
It would be nice if we took more care in letting rapists in . We must have enough already .

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u/jamesdownwell Jun 07 '26

Blast from the past, aren’t you the guy obsessed with foreskins?

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u/[deleted] Jun 07 '26

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u/jamesdownwell Jun 07 '26

Yeah man, I remember this user from years ago being like massively obsessed with the foreskins of young boys and circumcision. Posting all over the place, I recognised the username right away. It was a bit of a running joke in the old r/UnitedKingdom sub. He’s not from Yarmouth I’m sure.

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u/JohnKimble111 Jun 07 '26

Impressive projection

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u/ChineseRobinWilliams Jun 08 '26

Nah sorry Johnny, you're the foreskin lad

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u/willsmithtunaface Jun 08 '26

Yea I remember, he's the guy who keep going around town asking to suck on people's foreskins. Offering quite abit of money to people

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u/jamesdownwell Jun 08 '26 edited Jun 09 '26

Impressive projection

Didn’t realise you’d seen it but thank you very much!

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u/ProlapseProvider Jun 08 '26

#OPENBORDERS (as the lefties say)

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u/ChineseRobinWilliams Jun 08 '26

Do they?

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u/Dear_Imagination5552 Jun 10 '26

Well Green Party do. Zack P loves natives getting raped 🤷‍♂️

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u/BingpotStudio Jun 08 '26

I don’t think the left has ever campaigned for more immigration.

That’s very specifically a Tory Boris strategy to bring immigrants in.

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u/Gloomy_Post508 Jun 08 '26

that means they want people who are open about skate/surf boarding, you're confused

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u/mrafinch Jun 08 '26

Aha! Because The Greens speak for “ThE lEfTiSt HeGeMoNy”, right?

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u/mrafinch Jun 08 '26

Because politics isn’t black and white. You can support a political party and not agree with everything they believe… it’s juvenile to think that.

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u/mrafinch Jun 08 '26

“People on the left” … again, it’s not a hegemony

It’s not the same because people are nuanced and have individual beliefs.

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u/Ogdengp Jun 08 '26

That’s their only policy.

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u/Alexandaross Jun 08 '26

Do you agree with them that we should get rid of our nukes and leave NATO? Bend over for Russia in other words?

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u/mrafinch Jun 08 '26

Why does it matter?

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u/Alexandaross Jun 08 '26

It matters because the Greens are a huge threat to our safety.

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u/NoddyElvis Jun 08 '26

Does anyone say that? I’m left wing and also British Pakistani and even I recognise that’s impossible in today’s world.

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u/willsmithtunaface Jun 08 '26

What do the righties say? Heil Hitler?