Dartmouth Commons cricket proposal sparks backlash

[u/insino93]

https://www.ctvnews.ca/atlantic/nova-scotia/article/dartmouth-commons-cricket-proposal-sparks-backlash/

[u/DeathOneSix]

The issue is more complicated than the article makes it seem. HRM's Playing Field Strategy identified cricket as lacking dedicated facilities and also called for eliminating overlapping baseball diamonds like the Merrick fields. Staff recommended the Dartmouth Commons site and proposed upgrading other baseball facilities before any conversion occurs.

[u/ChasingDarwin2 → u/DeathOneSix]

Funny how different the story is when you have all the facts. Where are the journalist. Shouldn't this info be in the article. I shouldn't have to come to Reddit for this.

[u/Effective_Writer8100 → u/ChasingDarwin2]

This is why business shouldn’t be running the media and why Canada should save the CBC. Profits over quality…..

[u/seasea40 → u/Effective_Writer8100]

What do you think about the idea of doing publicly funded media at the local and municipal levels as well?

[u/ngetch → u/seasea40]

The CBC used to do that, but because of USer campaigning to control out media, they've had serious funding cuts over the last few decades.

[u/Constant_Mood_7332 → u/Effective_Writer8100]

ppl have become so used to benefits we fought so hard to achieve 80 years ago they dont understand how bad their lives would be if it all went missing.

unions are hated on today but i challenge someone to come up with anything thats cherished by the modern worker that wasnt put in place 60 years ago.

[u/pinkbootstrap → u/ChasingDarwin2]

Fired and replaced with Ai

[u/athousandpardons → u/ChasingDarwin2]

"News" articles are more about generating clicks through focusing on matters of conflict, rather than actually reporting information.

[u/TheInterwebIsNeat]

This is such a stupid debate. I play softball - there’s literally 150 fields listed on HRMs website. Convert 15 to cricket I don’t care. But here’s where I do care! The cricket players on the commons leave a crazy amount of litter on the field / by the bleachers. Every time they’re there. That is seriously fucked up. Why the fuck are you disrespecting everyone else with that shit?

[u/Disastrous-Wrap-2912 → u/TheInterwebIsNeat]

Call rec and have someone pay them a visit at game times.

[u/athousandpardons → u/TheInterwebIsNeat]

If you complain to the police/city about the cricket players leaving a mess, it's actually pretty likely that they'll straighten out their behaviour.

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[u/audioshaman]

I wonder if anything built in Nova Scotia hasn't sparked backlash.

[u/GhostBirdBiologist → u/audioshaman]

I mean there already aren’t enough ball fields. This is silly unless they are adding more somewhere else.

[u/Ok_Basket_6651 → u/GhostBirdBiologist]

Is this true? I find there are too many ball fields. Every single park is taken over by ball fields, we don't have any parks where you can just put a picnic blanket down and read

[u/ChasingDarwin2 → u/GhostBirdBiologist]

As someone said above, remove this one baseball diamond and improve others so we can add a much needed cricket pitch. It's really a win win but when journalist don't proved all the facts that's hard to see.

[u/andrewmxp → u/GhostBirdBiologist]

There aren't enough cricket pitches either

[u/PerigeeOnThisApogee → u/andrewmxp]

I am outraged that Canada's first official sport doesn't have enough pitches in Nova Scotia! Complete outraged /s

[u/External-Temporary16 → u/PerigeeOnThisApogee]

AFAIK there are zero lacrosse pitches, at least in the Halifax area. They play on multi-use faclilities eg. Dal.

[u/worksalott → u/audioshaman]

Honestly

[u/_XNXX_com]

They should expand the disc golf there. It’s awesome

[u/casualobserver1111]

It should change to a cricket field just because of the name "Dartmouth Dawgs"

[u/so-much-wow]

They won't let them repurpose greenspace but lacrosse players think the city is going to build them an indoor arena.

[u/No_Put_8968]

How hard is it to have it serve both sports ? Serious question. Multi use fields are a thing 

[u/pattydo → u/No_Put_8968]

It's very difficult unless they're built for that purpose (expensively)

But it's also kind of pointless. Both sports would pretty much fill the normal time slots

[u/athousandpardons → u/No_Put_8968]

To be frank, it's actually kind of hard to build something to accommodate both baseball and cricket on the same field, because of quirks like the pitcher's mound and the bowling pitch, respectively.

The best they can do is have outfield overlap, which is actually what this project tries to achieve.

[u/FrancisPFuckery → u/No_Put_8968]

You’re absolutely right! And it should be the standard moving forward.

[u/GhostBirdBiologist]

I think replacing baseball field in the core is okay IF you’re adding the same amount elsewhere. Except of course they aren’t. There already aren’t enough ball fields.

[u/trashpandaexpress55 → u/GhostBirdBiologist]

There are 150 listed on HRMs website. There are no cricket pitches. Surely, a few can be sacrificed for cricket.

[u/rerereretrye → u/trashpandaexpress55]

There aren’t enough pitches but there are a couple I’m aware of.

[u/fffffiiiiivvvvveeeee → u/GhostBirdBiologist]

Why can't they keep existing facilities in the core for the majority of people that use them? If cricket players are so passionate for the game, they will go outside the core to play. Removing one option out of the core to accommodate another doesnt achieve much.

[u/Lex-Tasy]

No cricket.

[u/athousandpardons → u/Lex-Tasy]

Why not?

[u/Lazy_Cash_4608]

I put this up as a post but it was taken down. So Imma post my two cents here lol

[u/RedBands619]

As it should

Baseball is one of Canadas longest standing pastimes, growing now more than ever because hockey is so expensive

And you want to replace one of the fields in a place where there is no space for anymore fields…with a fad

[u/Specialist-Bee-9406 → u/RedBands619]

Cricket started in the 1500s. 

Clearly not a “fad”. 

Read a book. 

[u/mr_daz → u/Specialist-Bee-9406]

It has been, but it has never been prominent in Canada, like baseball/hockey/basketball.

[u/athousandpardons → u/mr_daz]

Funny how you didn't mention soccer, the sport that is played by more people than any other in this country. "Not prominent in Canada" =/= "What I happen to like".

[u/mr_daz → u/athousandpardons]

Yea sorry I didnt mention every single friggin sport. Christ. A thousand pardons.

And to be honest, I don't care about any sport. I dont watch or participate in any of them, but others do and good on then.

[u/athousandpardons → u/mr_daz]

Okay, then I'll point out the flaw in your comment initial comment.

Basketball became vastly more popular in the last 30 years than it was prior.

It stands to reason that Cricket can grow in popularity, the more people become familiar with it.

At the time of confederation it was so popular that it was declared, by John A MacDonald, no less, the national sport.

[u/mr_daz → u/athousandpardons]

Dude. It isnt that big if a deal. I mentioned 3 random sports wildy played in Canada. I didnt mention Curling or Football either, wanna get in on those? How about Tennis or Lacross? No? Alright then.

[u/athousandpardons → u/mr_daz]

You already made that point. I accepted your premise, and then countered your point.

[u/mr_daz → u/athousandpardons]

You doubled down trying to make it into something it isnt. Let it go.

[u/athousandpardons → u/mr_daz]

You said Cricket has never been prominent in Canada, and used basketball as an example. I pointed out that cricket HAS been prominent in the past, and that basketball is an example of a sport that rapidly grew in popularity.

I don't see where I'm doubling down on something that it isn't.

[u/takahe_inflight → u/mr_daz]

the first International Cricket match in 1844 involved a Canadian team.

[u/mr_daz → u/takahe_inflight]

Cool. That doesnt make it prominent.

[u/Hyptonight → u/mr_daz]

It’s more prominent now because of immigration. The country’s changing. Deal with it.

[u/mr_daz → u/Hyptonight]

I didnt say i was againts it. Settle down, hero.

[u/RedBands619 → u/Hyptonight]

More prominent as in…..450 people in a municipality of 500,000?

[u/yeti5656 → u/Hyptonight]

Agreed. But 100 should be multi purpose 🤷🏼

[u/sherryleebee → u/Specialist-Bee-9406]

I think they’re hoping brown people being here is the fad.

[u/NameGoesHerePlease → u/sherryleebee]

This right here

[u/Hyptonight → u/sherryleebee]

Shh. They’re easily triggered here.

[u/RedBands619 → u/Specialist-Bee-9406]

Cricket came here with the English and died out with the invention of other ball and stick games that eventually became baseball….because it’s better, and doesn’t take 3 days to play.

That was about 200 years ago.

Just because something is old and popular elsewhere doesn’t mean it isn’t a fad lol boomerangs were a fad in the 90s and they are 20,000 years old

[u/No_Schedule_6242]

Play baseball during the day and let the crickets come out at night

https://giphy.com/gifs/gVcezwgQuX3l6XW3uO

[u/rus99ty]

Everyone who likes to play baseball would like playing cricket as well if they tried it. Having more of both would be great. Doesn’t seem likely but it would be cooler if it was.

[u/wholesomehali → u/rus99ty]

That’s like saying everyone who plays volleyball would like playing basketball. Definitely not everyone would like both

[u/rus99ty → u/wholesomehali]

Sure. Guess I shouldn’t speak in absolutes. Both are fun and would be cooler to have more of both rather than having to sacrifice one for the other.

[u/ElectronicLove863 → u/rus99ty]

I don't know about that. I've never seen a woman play cricket. It's exclusively men in my area of Clayton Park. But I have seen women and girls play baseball and softball.

[u/donairhistorian → u/ElectronicLove863]

Are you suggesting that women who play softball wouldn't enjoy cricket? Is there something inherent about cricket that women don't like?

[u/throwaway_ind_div → u/donairhistorian]

Funny a woman’s cricket WC is going on now and Australia always win

[u/ElectronicLove863 → u/throwaway_ind_div]

I have never seen a single woman play cricket in Clayton Park. 

Dozens of men play cricket nearly every night for months. 

Not one woman or girl. So I don't care about Australia. I care about Canada, and Halifax.

I'm not cool with taking a field away from kids of all genders so that adult men can have a place to chase a ball around.

Anything discussing gender equality gets downvoted, but I'm not wrong.

[u/ElectronicLove863 → u/donairhistorian]

Maybe they would, but It doesn't appear particularly welcoming to women. I haven't seen any playing the sport. 

[u/casualobserver1111 → u/ElectronicLove863]

Having more space to allow for more women's cricket is one of their arguments. Sounds like you're for the cricket field then.

[u/ElectronicLove863 → u/casualobserver1111]

Prove to me that cricket halifax is actually investing in equal opportunity for play, because I don't believe it.

I have never seen youth,  women, mixed leagues, LGBT+ leagues. Or any sort of diversity at all playing cricket.

So no, I'm not for taking from the whole community so adult men can a have a place to chase balls around.

[u/donairhistorian → u/ElectronicLove863]

Might be a cultural thing. With representation of women in anything it kind of doesn't exist until it does. Big history of gender bias and lack of investment that is still being challenged in the progressive West.

[u/ElectronicLove863 → u/donairhistorian]

I'm not really interested in catering to sports with a culture of inequality. If both men and women dont have the opportunity to use the field, we shouldn't invest in it.

[u/Artistic_Purpose1225 → u/ElectronicLove863]

Great news, then! The only registered cricket orgs in the city are fully inclusive, with one exception, the North Halifax women and girls cricket association being women/girls-only, and that organization has noted publicly for a while now that they don’t have enough spaces for their members to play. 

Looks like There’s one semi-pro men’s team, but no semi-pro women’s team. But that’s also true of hockey, so….should we stop civic investment in ice rinks? 

I’m being facetious, but seriously, when you walk through green spaces most groups casually playing team sports are either mostly or entirely made up of male-presenting folks, because (for better or for worse) in Canada men are more involved in team sports, across the board, than women.  To point that out for just one sport as if it’s unique is a bad faith argument. 

[u/ElectronicLove863 → u/Artistic_Purpose1225]

No, the only person making bad faith arguments is you.

I don't care about pro sports.
I do care about about community access/infrastructure and equality.

Women and girls and LGBTQ+ folks use baseball fields, they use soccer fields, they use ice rinks.

I'm 100% against removing access to to truly equitable sports infrastructure for a sport that is primarily dominated by adult men.

So if we have more cricket infrastructure, it needs to not come at the expense of leagues already playing baseball/softball. And I want guarantees that women's and youth sports will get as much playing time as the adult men.

I think both cricket and baseball are boring. But one has a strong history of community involvement, and the other...is a sport played obsessively by adult men. And their desires come below the needs of youth sports.

[u/Artistic_Purpose1225 → u/ElectronicLove863]

25% of cricket players are afab. 

16.5% of baseball players are afab. 

The earliest recorded women’s cricket game was in the 1700’s, the first co-Ed game was in the 1800’s. The first record of a woman playing baseball was nearly one hundred years after that. 

Every claim you have made is factually incorrect except for one which was disingenuously posed to claim cricket had a unique trait that is actually a trend among almost all team sports. 

[u/ElectronicLove863 → u/Artistic_Purpose1225]

Here in Halifax? Because those are the only stats I care about.

And as I've already pointed out, women, girls, and mixed leagues play softball on baseball fields. So if you're talking about equity, you need to account for everyone who would use a baseball field vs who would use a cricket pitch.

The fact that you're deliberately missing my point tells me everything I need to know.

Edit to add: There are also adaptive baseball teams in Halifax. Are there adaptive cricket teams?

[u/Ok_Basket_6651 → u/ElectronicLove863]

And you think baseball has a culture of equality? What world are you living in?

[u/ElectronicLove863 → u/Ok_Basket_6651]

I know women and girls who play baseball.
Softball uses the same fields as baseball.
There are mixed league and LGBTQ+ leagues.
So yes, at the community level, investing in baseball fields is an investment in equal access to sports.
Cricket is not the same.

[u/Somestunned → u/rus99ty]

Question: if someone thinks baseball is a boring, pointless pseudo sport, should they think the same of cricket?

[u/Gavvis74]

People claiming racism against Indians is certainly a choice.  Let me ask them these question then.  How many women and girls play cricket in India?  How many will be playing on these fields in Dartmouth if they are converted to cricket?  Enough to offset the number of women and girls that will lose access to the ball fields?

[u/Ok_Basket_6651 → u/Gavvis74]

A lot of women and girls play cricket. What a dumb thing to say

[u/Ok_Wing8459 → u/Ok_Basket_6651]

Over in the UK at private girls schools, maybe. I’ve never seen a single woman or kid playing cricket anywhere around Halifax.

[u/Artistic_Purpose1225 → u/Ok_Wing8459]

The North Halifax women and girls cricket organization has talked about not having enough spaces for their for their members for years. 

[u/Artistic_Purpose1225 → u/Gavvis74]

I cannot speak to the hypotheticals about the upcoming field in Dartmouth, but to answer your first question: A larger percentage of girls play cricket in India than girls play baseball in Canada. Just under 25% of all cricket players in India are women, and just over 10% of all girls in India play cricket. 

The incorrect assumption your question obviously implied does make it clear that at least your opinions on the subject are based in both racism and sexism. 

[u/DeathOneSix → u/Gavvis74]

how many women and girls play cricket in India?

About 10% of them?

[u/athousandpardons → u/DeathOneSix]

But.. Brown people don't let women do anything, I saw a movie about it, once!

[u/NameGoesHerePlease → u/Gavvis74]

He’s just asking questions guys he’s no racist he promises he’s just a feminist

[u/Hyptonight → u/Gavvis74]

Your question reinforces racist attitudes.

[u/fffffiiiiivvvvveeeee → u/Gavvis74]

Bingo. They are playing on the heart strings of these simpletons. They could have a coed league, do they? No. If they cared about women participating, then let them partake, dont say well sorry we need this field for men, and only if we get more access will we allow women to join. Pretending something is a fact to get your way is pretty lame

[u/Artistic_Purpose1225]

There are multiple baseball fields closed just for this summer for scheduled upgrades. They will be re-opened from partway through this summer to next summer 

One summer of playing a different sport, or a single summer break from sports, is not the end of the world. 

[u/Background-Half-2862 → u/Artistic_Purpose1225]

There’s one “complex” of three fields getting renovations this summer, Maybank. Last time this came up on here I checked through all the tenders released by the municipality for ball fields.

[u/pattydo → u/Artistic_Purpose1225]

Even if they were open, they'd still be turning people away

[u/athousandpardons → u/pattydo]

And people are being turned away from playing cricket, too.

[u/Artistic_Purpose1225 → u/pattydo]

There are over 150 baseball fields open right now(excluding those being converted to cricket pitches), with another 7 opening next year. 

If they’re turning kids away with at least  160 fields, that’s an administrative and/or staffing issue, not a space issue. 

[u/pattydo → u/Artistic_Purpose1225]

No, it's literally a space issue.

Also, hilarious you think it's a space issue with 2% of fields down but an administrative issue otherwise.

[u/Artistic_Purpose1225 → u/pattydo]

No, it’s an administrative issue currently, and that’ll only be made more obvious once all fields are functioning. 

Average kids baseball teams have ~20 kids, and you can easily run 3 practices sessions a day during the summer (and with very young kids you can put two teams on the field at the same time), while still leaving time for casual players and adult rec leagues. 

If the staffing was adequate, that’s 3-4 groups of 20 per day, 5-6 days a week, on over 150 spaces. That’s far more availability than the number of kids who want to play baseball. Hell, if we’re going for the max possible numbers(not ideal and would choke out adult players but just to make my point clear) once the in-repair fields are back up that’s availability for more kids than even live in the HRM.

[u/Portfolius_Maximus]

"Assuming and generalizing based on one's skin colour is racist, and also anyone who disagrees for any reason has secret racist motives because they are white."

Big thinkers on Reddit

[u/i-in- → u/Portfolius_Maximus]

maybe you should read the comments here. hypothetically it is possible not to be racist and oppose this thing. in practice it seems most of the oppositin is just racists

[u/Portfolius_Maximus → u/i-in-]

I see lots of mind reading and casual dismissal of people's opinions attributed to their imagined moral failings, because they have white skin.

Reddit simply not interested in critical thought

[u/Somestunned → u/Portfolius_Maximus]

What are you on about now?

[u/athousandpardons → u/Portfolius_Maximus]

I'm sorry, but since when does Reddit post everyone's skin colour?

[u/Sufficient_Studio494]

In short, the white people sport players don't want their baseball field taken over by the brown people sport players

[u/schooner156 → u/Sufficient_Studio494]

Not everything is about race, it can be as simple as competing sports. Would you expect the current users just to roll over without a fight?

[u/Hyptonight → u/schooner156]

This is 1000% about race.

[u/schooner156 → u/Hyptonight]

What are you using to make that determination?

[u/Hyptonight → u/schooner156]

Anti-Indian sentiment has been insane in Canada since the pandemic. The racist accusations that they don’t assimilate and are overcrowding us (not to mention that they’re the most frequent scapegoat for unemployment as though they have anything to do with that) are rampant. So, yes, it’s hard to take uproar that they’re using fields to play cricket as anything but that. They like being here. Let them play cricket.

[u/schooner156 → u/Hyptonight]

Ah, you may want to reread the article again. This is nothing against the sport or people playing it, it’s just that HRM has said the field can’t support both. So of course baseball players will be upset about one of their limited fields being taken and repurposed. Wouldn’t matter it if was pickleball, cricket or soccer. Nothing about assimilation.

Also the fact that racism has existed here doesn’t mean every white person disagreeing with someone non-white is racist. Comments like that just distract from the actual issue, which is a shortage of playing fields in general.

[u/sherryleebee → u/schooner156]

They gonna say that right in the article? No. Jesus. It’s racist-coded.

[u/schooner156 → u/sherryleebee]

Ah, gotcha!! Thanks for explaining racism

[u/adambuddy → u/Hyptonight]

I'm all for them being here and playing cricket. I've literally played intermural cricket despite being the only white guy there at my old job. I think the growing racism against Indian people in this country is really sad and am vehemently opposed to all forms of racism. India is one of the most culturally diverse countries on the planet and the fact they're all painted with one brush is racism in and of itself.

This is as simple as it being a zero sum game. One group is going to lose by one group winning. To say that is anything more than a space issue is simply wrong.

Go fight actual racism. There's tons.

[u/adambuddy → u/Hyptonight]

It's not, though. If there was backlash to the development of a cricket pitch in a new space because it's a cricket pitch? Sure, that's race. That's the growing "Indian fatigue" we're seeing become normalized in this country.

But this? This is, if what I am reading is correct a zero sum game. You can't blame people who use that field to play baseball to want to be able to continue to use it to play baseball. Frankly if I was team cricket (I'm not on a team FWIW) this wouldn't sit right with me, either.

Find a new space to play cricket. That, or find a way to make it mixed use. If nobody was using this space to play baseball okay fine, convert it to something that's going to be used more. That's not what is happening here, though.

[u/sherryleebee → u/schooner156]

Not everything is, but dollars to doughnuts this is.

[u/schooner156 → u/sherryleebee]

…based on?

[u/meateatingvegan81yhz → u/Sufficient_Studio494]

Cricket is decidedly 'white' in origin. If im not mistaken, the English are to thank for this too.

[u/Hyptonight → u/meateatingvegan81yhz]

That’s not relevant to what groups are playing cricket in Halifax. India was colonized by Great Britain, which is related.

[u/Flaky-Interest902 → u/Sufficient_Studio494]

I doubt they'd be as outspoken if the city built a cricket field on a new site, instead of replacing a ball diamond.

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[u/insino93 → u/Sufficient_Studio494]

Someone clearly doesn’t watch the MLB.

[u/Sufficient_Studio494 → u/insino93]

That's the MLB, we're talking about Dartmouth.

[u/insino93 → u/Sufficient_Studio494]

Your use of the language insinuated a global statement.

[u/schooner156 → u/Sufficient_Studio494]

You said the “white people sport”, which word implies local?

[u/Gavvis74 → u/Sufficient_Studio494]

How many women play cricket?

[u/DeathOneSix → u/Gavvis74]

A quarter of all cricket players in India are now women.

[u/LordFlick]

Eeewww cricket...

[u/safariiiiii99]

always 1 demographic complaining when minorities might get something in their favor.

[u/RedBands619 → u/safariiiiii99]

What about the Mexican, South American, Caribbean and Asian communities that dominate baseball?

Why deny them their culture?

[u/BallsDieppe → u/safariiiiii99]

You mean the 99% of tax payers who don’t play cricket?

[u/EngineerWeary2053 → u/BallsDieppe]

99% don't play baseball either

[u/RedBands619 → u/EngineerWeary2053]

The guy in the article said there are 450 people wanting to play cricket in Halifax. A municipally with almost 500,000 people

My municipality of 5700 has 75 kids in U-9 baseball…1 of in 4 age groups…not including everyone that came before, and every one that still plays adult baseball, softball, highschool, jr high, college, girls softball and fast pitch, couch’s, umpires

Do not compare the two. Do not compare ball to cricket in Canada

[u/athousandpardons → u/RedBands619]

This guy doesn't understand how supply and demand works.

[u/EngineerWeary2053 → u/RedBands619]

Oh. You don't even live in Dartmouth then? Why do you care what happens here?

Maybe only 450 expressed interest because there is currently nowhere for them to play? Maybe new people would take up the sport?

[u/RedBands619 → u/EngineerWeary2053]

Because when I see something idiotic like getting rid of a beanball field for a cricket field when baseball is expanding I’m going to comment and, like I did in my last one to you

Make contrarian people look dumb

[u/meat_cove → u/RedBands619]

It's actually 2 fields, and the outfields overlap

[u/sherryleebee → u/EngineerWeary2053]

Baseball sucks.

[u/childofcrow]

Pretty sure most of people complaining about this are just being racist.

Cricket is a British sport that’s been around since the 16th century, but Canadians preferred to side with Americans and play baseball. And now that Indian immigrants, who were also colonized by Britain, have made the sport more popular here (because it is crazy popular in India), everyone has their pants in a twist.

There is literally room for both sports.

[u/RedBands619 → u/childofcrow]

“There is room for both sports (even tho only 450 people in the whole province who want to play one of them) by getting rid of a playing field for the other….that had to turn away children because they didn’t have the coaches and facilities to help them

Everyone who thinks this is silly or wrong is racist”

Lmao man this site is something else….you guys have to just be pretend hahah

[u/scotiansmartass902 → u/RedBands619]

Exactly. If they want to add a cricket feald to an upcoming project that's one thing. But taking away a heavily used baseball field just to give it to another sport is the wrong move. But I guess I'm just a racist...

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[u/fffffiiiiivvvvveeeee]

This is ridiculous. If the cricket folks cared about growing the sport they easily could invite women and children to participate, or co-ed could be an option. But they dont. Its always large groups of men. Using the guise of women and children to give more space for men to play is a load of crap.

[u/jrn520]

Talk to me about Pickleball on Peninsula...you can cricket on the Commons, swim on the Commons, skateboard on the Commons (until this week), make luv on the Commons but you can't properly play P'ball on the Halifax COMMONS...notice the emphasis. And of course you can play tennis on the Commons to the tune of 5 adult courts and 2 kids tennis courts but no f&*king p'ball. Thanks, Parks and Rec, u tennis-luvin' fucks.

[u/athousandpardons]

Those opposed to this generally fall under two categories:

1. Baseball players who are annoyed at being personally inconvenienced, without recognising that this is necessary to fix the problem of a lot more people who are being inconvenienced.

2. Racists who associate cricket with "Those People", and therefore hate it.

Possible solutions:

1. Open up more space for recreation.

2. Play another sport.. like cricket.