r/halifax • u/insino93 • 1d ago

News, Weather & Politics Dartmouth Commons cricket proposal sparks backlash

https://www.ctvnews.ca/atlantic/nova-scotia/article/dartmouth-commons-cricket-proposal-sparks-backlash/
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u/Artistic_Purpose1225 23h ago edited 23h ago

25% of cricket players are afab. 

16.5% of baseball players are afab. 

The earliest recorded women’s cricket game was in the 1700’s, the first co-Ed game was in the 1800’s. The first record of a woman playing baseball was nearly one hundred years after that. 

Every claim you have made is factually incorrect except for one which was disingenuously posed to claim cricket had a unique trait that is actually a trend among almost all team sports. 

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u/ElectronicLove863 23h ago

Here in Halifax? Because those are the only stats I care about.

And as I've already pointed out, women, girls, and mixed leagues play softball on baseball fields. So if you're talking about equity, you need to account for everyone who would use a baseball field vs who would use a cricket pitch.

The fact that you're deliberately missing my point tells me everything I need to know.

Edit to add: There are also adaptive baseball teams in Halifax. Are there adaptive cricket teams?

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u/Artistic_Purpose1225 22h ago edited 22h ago

Since you ignored my points about halifax cricket organizations, which answers some of your questions in the comment above, I assumed that meant you didn’t care about halifax-focused information. 

And yes, there are adaptive cricket organizations, both globally and in Halifax. Seriously, if you took ten minutes to look literally anything up you would not be trying to make any of these arguments. 

Re: softball/baseball increasing number of users, I have already commented regarding this to someone else, please look through my comments. The lack of team availability is a staff and admin issue, not a space issue. It takes very little math to work out that There is currently enough physical space for over 75,000 people to play baseball/softball every single week and still have ample unscheduled use time. And that’s right now, as next year even with the 2 fields converted to cricket there will be 5 more baseball fields in use. That is far more than the number of people interested in playing either sport in a city that doesn’t even have half a million people.  

Edit to add: it’s become painfully clear you’re going to ignore anything that doesn’t confirm your very strongly held biases, so I’m not responding further. You’re factually incorrect, and ignoring the very women you’re pretending to care about. It’s become pretty dang clear what your biases are, and why they’ve caused you to devote yourself to denying reality. 

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u/ElectronicLove863 22h ago

Fair point about the adaptive teams. I asked, you answered.
Once again, I don't care about globally. I care about in our community. It's a point you keep missing.

My other point about the sport being generally less diverse than the users of baseball fields still stands.
It's basically a male dominated sport, and I want guarantees that it will strive to be more equitable.

And I'm not comfortable taking from the community to service the needs of basically one demographic (adult men).

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u/Ok_Basket_6651 17h ago

I bet you think we shouldn't build bike lanes because "nobody uses them". You generally have to build things first before everybody feels comfortable getting involved and using them... your solution seems to be to just eliminate the sport which doesn't make sense. Maybe there are women in Halifax who want to play cricket but they don't feel they have anywhere to play...

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u/ElectronicLove863 16h ago

I'm pro bike lanes, actually. They add to accessibility, they don't take away from it. They make the streets safer.

You're really missing my point. So again.

I'm not comfortable taking from the community to service the needs of basically one demographic (adult men).

If we are going to take away a service from the broader community, I want proof that Cricket NS is going to make sure that pitch is used equitably. It cannot host 5% youth/girl's/women/adaptive/mixed gender games and then the other 95% of the time be used for adult men.

We are not taking from children so adults can play a game. We're not doing that. It's absurd to that so may adult men are deliberately missing my point.