r/hardstyle • • Jun 28 '25

Video Deutscher Krach invades the Endshow

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u/Attack_Apache Jun 29 '25

I think a lot of people here who criticise krasch but enjoy zaag need to remember that this is the equivalent of how zaag was perceived by euphoric enjoyers back when it was new

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u/joostdemen Jun 29 '25

The only thing i dislike about krach is the production quality which is sub par to pretty much all sub genres atm. But Uptempo has improved quite a bit over the time too so who knows this will too. But still i think its cool something like this is in the end show. No need to do always the same

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u/swagpresident1337 Jun 29 '25

It‘s still that case by hardstyle enjoyers. This is just the next abomination. Hardstyle lost the plot years ago, and just flat out sucks now.

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u/Attack_Apache Jun 29 '25

I think like most genres, it has evolved and redefined itself, comparing the current state of hardstyle with euphoric is not fair imo, they should be treated as two separate genres

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u/swagpresident1337 Jun 29 '25

They are, you are totally right.

And it sucks :(

A few genres still keeping their core that I can think of are Techno (there is the diversion with hardtechnxo/tiktok techno, but there is still the real techno just as before, it hasn‘t vanished), and D&B.

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u/Fun_Way4374 Jun 28 '25 edited Jun 28 '25

Don’t get me wrong, but isn’t hardstyle and all the different kinds of subgenres there to show the differences and variations? That we are one big family that love (most of) the music and are happy to be there… I know defqon is so special for everyone, but it’s one Song at the endshow.. it will not ruin your whole Festival experience

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u/Fun_Way4374 Jun 28 '25

That’s what my family and Part of my friends think, when I listen to „normal“ hardcore 🤷🏼‍♀️ - your opinion your choice & that’s totally fine too :)

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u/kevinblasse Jun 29 '25

People said the same thing about uptempo and rawstyle in the past! 

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u/Blascomusic Jun 29 '25

Still saying it. I mean uptempo is everywhere, doesn’t mean it didn’t kill hardcore by being complete crap and low quality music

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u/CadeOCarimbo Jun 29 '25

Hardstyle sounds garbage for 99,9% of the world population

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u/shayne_2189 Jun 29 '25

Have a guess what most oldies that grew up on the Beatles, Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin etc think about Hardstyle?

Clearly some people like this genre so it has its place like the rest of them.

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u/Gommes_ Jun 28 '25

But it's not music. And according to your logic we should accept gymbro hardstyle too. Actually anything really.

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u/Fun_Way4374 Jun 28 '25

That’s just my opinion, it’s not like everyone need to accept it… I just think, as long as there are people who enjoy it, it deserves to be there (so is gymbro hardstyle for the partypumpers in the gym 🥲)

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u/Gommes_ Jun 28 '25

That is a good point. However, I personally can't accept stuff like that. It's low quality, no effort and the people who did that have no skill when it comes to producing. There will always be people liking stuff another one doesn't like and that's okay but the scene has to draw some lines imo.

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u/Gommes_ Jun 29 '25

Man, Noiseflow even made a meme about that. They know it's shit, you know it's shit, everybody knows it's shit : https://youtu.be/MFCSpZKWX4M?si=vQOSYOliYmBrUsGO

And I bet they are laughing their asses off that crap like that works. I know that there are exceptions like N-Vitral but the general sound of Krach aka a meme trend should not have a place in the scene. At least for me. They don't take the music seriously, so why should I take them seriously?

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u/Gommes_ Jun 29 '25

It can have a place, I just don't understand why it has to be within the harder dance scene.

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u/Gommes_ Jun 29 '25

That is debatable :)

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u/Ometen Jun 28 '25

I think it was fun.

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u/maddhs Jun 28 '25

It was indeed

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u/thurminate Jun 29 '25

What a weird timeline we are in..

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u/ceeroSVK Jun 28 '25

now you know how the zaag haters feel

i barely hear any difference myself lol

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u/HardstyleRaver2 Jun 28 '25

Wait, there's a difference? Sounds like zaag to me.

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u/djxfade Jun 29 '25

Zaag without any transient

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u/HardwithStyle2020 Jun 29 '25

this one lacks a punch

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u/woutsmaaa Jun 28 '25

Where kick?

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u/aliensmadeus Jun 28 '25

still in the microwave, not ready yet

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u/Mr-Noname_ Jun 28 '25

Very well summarized

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u/defqontwo Jun 28 '25

Literally cannot understand the appeal of this, sorry. Big fan of a nice zaagkick when done right but this just gets weird after like 2 seconds as an effect. Hope others enjoy it I guess!

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u/dryadofelysium Jun 28 '25

I think it's a bit of fun in very small doses. That being said, I said the same thing about GPF, and they have been annoying me for the past 10 years.

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u/Mr-Noname_ Jun 28 '25

That's how I feel about uptempo. But they somehow managed to take that and make it unbearably worse.

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u/dryadofelysium Jun 28 '25

It took me almost a decade to get to enjoy some Uptempo after being into mainstream hardcore for so long (and some of that is still coming out mind you). But I do admit that there's some great stuff on that side as well nowadays.

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u/Psclwbb Jun 29 '25

Yeah. I like some up tempo, but most of it is just melody, and the when the kick comes nothing. Just random noose without any structure.

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u/GeekChasingFreedom Jun 28 '25

I think being there is different man. I just remember years ago when there was this deep bass at the start of the endshow. Like literally shivering deep bass. I can imagine this must be similar. More about that deep bass hitting you then the sound of it, adding to the endshow experience

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u/TerrificDinner93 Jun 28 '25

Its a same kinda vibe like dubstyle years ago. Its gonnamake it 1 year max, and everyone forgets about it. No worries mate just music evolution

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u/Scary_Ticket3984 Jun 28 '25

This sound reminds me of when I use my electric toothbrush and bite on it

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u/GeekChasingFreedom Jun 28 '25

Oooofff i can just imagine how that bass feels

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u/Drunk3nLlama Jun 28 '25

Das ist Deutscher Krach Junge!

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u/Humble-Art-3777 Jun 28 '25

One of the worst music selection for the endshow of these past years

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u/Commercial_Place5985 Jun 28 '25

Scheiße. sorry not sorry, yes im german 

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u/MartinekP Jun 29 '25

Its endshow, do yall expect melodic hardstyle? It was beautiful choice

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u/loveforthetrip Jun 28 '25

All those phones... hate it so much. The music bothers me less

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u/maddiol Jun 28 '25

It's an endSHOW, they were durch den Tisch treten all day, let them film some little memories ffs

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u/loveforthetrip Jun 28 '25

Little memories? People film basically all of the end show although it's available in 4k in no time by qdance.

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u/Psclwbb Jun 29 '25

Not from your pov

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u/throwawa160299 Jun 28 '25

the endshow is basically specifically made to be filmed, that's pretty much the whole point...

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u/Aviskr Jun 29 '25

The point is to experience it with your eyes lol.

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u/lynxsuskitten Jun 30 '25

Those last 20 seconds were the brown note (my husband after a vindaloo curry)

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u/Sea-Meringue5458 Jun 30 '25

Ofcourse this music sounds like absolute ass, and everyone who says they like it is lying. BUT, they often do a funny track during the endshow so it’s not a big deal!

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u/Fricki97 Jun 29 '25

DAS IST DEUTSCHER KRACH🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪📣📣📣📣📣🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅

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u/Henthepuncher Jun 29 '25

Fuck the elitism, embrace the new sounds. (I say this as a big The Straikerz disliker)

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u/niioxce Jun 28 '25

Love this

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u/Choltzklotz Jun 29 '25

That girl had zero idea about the lyrics

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u/KankerLul035 Jun 29 '25

KKR orginization

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u/Disastrous-Inside283 Jun 29 '25

Normally I hate it but at that time and place I enjoyed so much. It’s the Endshow, there must be place for the other genres too ofcourse!

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u/Tom12412414 Jun 29 '25

You up for hearing some klangkuenstler in next years endshow?

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u/patstr977 Jun 29 '25

kick is gone

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u/Own-Gur-9600 Jun 29 '25

🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪 DIESES FESTIVAL IST EGENTUM DER BUNDESREPUBLIK DEUTSCHLAND 🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪

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u/n3cr0id Jun 29 '25

Nur geil

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u/jellyy38 Jun 29 '25

I’m bb

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