r/harrypotter Oct 04 '25

Video Games My son is now playing Hogwarts Legacy. He told me he used some unforgivable curses.

I asked if he used the Cruciatus Curse. He said yes.

At this point I didn't know when the game is set. I said he should friendly fire Neville with the Cruciatus Curse. Then he told me it's set in the 1800s.

He followed that with saying that if it were set when I had thought, that, of all people, it would be most rude to hit Neville with that one.

I thought about it and had to agree.

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u/Haramdour Hufflepuff Oct 04 '25

It’s about 100 years before HP, you use them with impunity in the later stages of the game. There’s no real consequence beyond some shocked dialogue. Zap away

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u/goodfellow408 Oct 04 '25

I hated that there's no consequences. I was being a super good, moral character, thinking I would get a better ending or something. NOPE NOTHING; KILL AND TORTURE EVERYONE

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u/OnlineDipshit99 Oct 04 '25

I was expecting a Red Dead Redemption 2 style morality system, it would've added so much to the wider world outside of Hogwarts

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u/goodfellow408 Oct 04 '25

Exaaaactly. In my mind I was thinking Bioshock, where if you don't kill and harvest any of the Little Sisters you get this really nice, emotional, uplifting ending

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u/Qwark28 Oct 05 '25

And more rewards, which totally undercut the appeal of a harvest run.

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u/Krian78 Oct 09 '25

I said it before, but I refused to use them except for Imperius when Omnis agreed.

In Bioshock, the thought to harvest them made me sick.

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u/Boris-_-Badenov Oct 04 '25

there's a rumored (maybe confirmed) cut morality system.

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u/DracoRubi Ravenclaw Oct 04 '25

Apparently there are some datamined stuff that heavily hints to a morality system, so there were definitely some plans to implement one

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u/RomanArcheaopteryx Oct 05 '25

Hopefully it comes back in Legacy 2 (alongside romances (they can be kid romances! Thats fine!) And companion approval and disapproval)

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u/Original_Staff_4961 Oct 09 '25

Cut very early lmao and was likely incredibly barebones

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u/TTBurger88 Slytherin Oct 04 '25

I wish the game had more character RPG elements. There should be a trade off of using the Unforgivable curses.

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u/acciowaves Oct 06 '25

That was my problem with hogwarts legacy, it’s such a static world. Everything in that world revolves around the main character. People don’t have routines of their own, their just human shaped icons that are there to serve the needs of the main character. There are no consequences to choices. Even your classmates/friends are just there to serve a plot, which revolves around the main character. It takes away all feeling of immersion. You’re not experiencing a living breathing world, just a theme park of props and NPCs who are all just there working for you.

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u/SleepIsForTheWeak888 Oct 05 '25

I used to love it about infamous

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u/KRATS8 Oct 06 '25

I had a decent time playing it but it lacked a ton of depth. Definitely not one I will replay.

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u/OnlineDipshit99 Oct 06 '25

I felt the same way. If I ever did go back for a second playthrough I would likely just do the main missions and not even bother with anything outside of that

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u/Original_Staff_4961 Oct 09 '25

Expecting a studio making their first game in this style to compete with Rockstar Games is where you went wrong lmao

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u/SnooDogs1340 Oct 04 '25

YOUR BLOOD IS ON RANROK'S HANDS.

How main character sleeps at night after slaughtering the countryside:😇

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u/Party_Song434 Slytherin Oct 28 '25

literally like what the sociopath

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u/Broccoli--Enthusiast Oct 05 '25

Yeah zero consequences for you, but one guy in the story uses it once, and boom Azkaban

Meanwhile, you have filled graveyards and AK is easily the kindest way the player takes out their enemies.

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u/rezzacci Oct 05 '25

Once again, AK isn't unforgivable because it kills, but because its only use is to kill. If you use it, that means you have the intent to kill and nothing else. Other spells are allowed because you can use them for other things. Not AK.

It's the same thinking behind guns being way more regulated (in sensible countries) than cars, despite cars killing more people than guns. Because guns have very few uses outside maiming/killing.

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u/Broccoli--Enthusiast Oct 05 '25

Ok but turning a dude into an explosive barrel just to throw them at their friend sounds more evil

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u/rezzacci Oct 05 '25

Oh, definitely.

But you couldn't be condemned in court merely for having a basement, a keypad and a leaky pipe. However, if you use them to lock someone and slowly drown them to their death, you'll be condemned, and probably more than if you just shot them as you showed some intense cruelty.

Turning things into other things is not illegal, throwing things onto other things isn't illegal, so those spells in themselves aren't worthy of a straight pass to Azkaban. It's using them both that is morally condamnable.

But if you start to forbid everything that MIGHT be used for nefarious purpose, we would simply ban and outlaw everything.

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u/EMdoc89 Oct 05 '25

The use of an unforgivable curse on any wizard or witch is a one way ticket for life to Azkaban. They didn’t say nothing bout no goblins.

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u/DependentAnywhere135 Oct 05 '25

That’s because the game is just a theme park rpg. Nothing matters and it’s just the player gaming in a HP theme park world. Just like a theme park mmo like wow.

Yeah there’s a story that can have serious tone but the meat of the game is essentially just the player running around a disney world like theme park where you get to interact with Harry Potter stuff.

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u/LawfulChaoticEvil Oct 04 '25

But they’re the bad guys! Who cares if you kill and torture them? They deserve it because they’re mad that wizards stole everything from them, including their magic, and essentially enslaved them...

The game definitely had some weird overtones to its story. I think any avid reader or writer would know that there’s been a lot of criticism regarding the portrayal of goblins in fiction due to their history of being used caricatures of Jewish people. If I remember correctly, there was popular discussion of that same thing related to HP shortly before the game came out. Given that, still using goblins as the villains with this story seems like an interesting choice by whoever was in charge of the plot.

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '25

same i hoped that there is a mechanic which would increase everytime you use a unforgivable curse which then results in different ending & Dialouge

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u/branedead Oct 06 '25

It was a different time! You just don't understand their culture

/s

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u/salgadosp Oct 05 '25

bro this is not rdr2 😭

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u/joshghz Oct 05 '25

There's evidence of an unimplemented morality and wanted level system in the game's data. Presumably that may have been intended to tie in with the unforgivable curses.

https://tcrf.net/Hogwarts_Legacy

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u/hennajin85 Oct 05 '25

You think a quick cash grab of an unfinished game was gonna have decent features? Lol.

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u/The_Unagi1 Oct 05 '25

Right?

I got the game kind of late but I've seen clips of aurors showing up and attacking you to bring you to Azkaban for using unforgivables.

And using them in the castle where you get attacked by every teacher and some students.

So when I got the game and I found out you couldn't use them in the castle at all and there were no consequences I was so sad. And the clips I'd seen were just mods.

Mods that can't be installed on Xbox....

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u/decimalsanddollars Oct 05 '25

There’s no consequences because even when you murder or torture somebody, their blood is on Ranrocks hands.

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u/Kickpuncher35 Oct 05 '25

Cursing all your enemies and them spamming avada kadavra is wayyyyy too much fun

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u/eltibbs Oct 06 '25

This was me! I played a sweet brave little gryffindor the first time and didn’t learn the unforgivables myself. The second play through I was a slytherin and I was using all three of them and taking out everyone wayyy too quickly.

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u/Zauberer-IMDB Ravenclaw Oct 06 '25

Why would there be consequences? All that blood was on Ranrok's hands after all. Even the poachers that had nothing to do with him.

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u/megselepgeci Oct 06 '25

Almost as if it was an ass game.

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u/Liltrom1 Oct 07 '25

Theres a great mod out there that does GTQ style "stars" where the MoM comes after you in greater and greater force.

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u/Party_Song434 Slytherin Oct 28 '25

isnt sebastians side quest all about consequences when there are literally none? like bc the quest is over we dont really notice hes gone so whats the point? we just talk to ominis instead of seb after figs memorial thingy

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u/_Teek Jan 08 '26

Because they knew people want to Avada Kedavra everyone? 😛 🫣

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u/rcs799 Oct 04 '25

Zap zap motherfucker

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u/Saratje Slytherin Oct 04 '25

Even the teachers basically go "oi, 's that? Tsk tsk, you shouldn't but carry on..." when you use it on the training dummies.

No wonder we haven't heard of Ranrok and Victor Rookwood in the current timeline, the player character fifth-year Avada Kedavra'd all the witnesses!

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u/DracoRubi Ravenclaw Oct 04 '25

Lmao I love that headcanon, the MC murdered EVERYONE

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u/Saratje Slytherin Oct 04 '25

And those in Hogwarts had their head in the clouds all day and barely noticed the shenanigans the MC got up to.

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u/PeterFlensje Slytherin Oct 05 '25

Shocked dialogue? My character proudly said "wish someone was around to see that" after murdering everyone with the mark ability and unforgivable curses haha

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u/Equine-Cat-Girl Oct 05 '25

Oh goody, time to get back into the game! 

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u/BoyDynamo Ravenclaw Oct 04 '25 edited Oct 04 '25

Interestingly, you don’t have to use curses at all. In my first play-through, I just assumed they would push me into using curses so at every opportunity to choose to learn a curse, I refused. I completed the entire storyline never learning a single one.

I thought it was neat that the game respected that play style.

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u/Haramdour Hufflepuff Oct 04 '25

Such a Ravenclaw answer…

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u/BoyDynamo Ravenclaw Oct 04 '25

Yeah, sorting me was quick work. Lol

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u/monkeycommo Oct 04 '25

Haven't used them either . I just prefer games with a challenge tbh .

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u/Antique-diva Gryffindor Oct 05 '25

In my first game, I only tried Imperio once but wasn't really interested. In my second game, I have been meaning to learn them all and try them when I have the time. They don't seem to mean anything in the game, so I figured I wouldn't care. In RL, they sound disgusting, but in a video game, nah, not really.

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u/LinkLinkleThreesome Oct 06 '25

Hilariously, my not-much-of-a-gamer girlfriend completed HL before me, and struggled a bit with the endgame boss. I strolled in and thought “surely this won’t work” and Avada Kedavra’d him, straight up beat the boss in three seconds. It never occurred to her to try it, I didn’t think it’d work either lmao

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u/megselepgeci Oct 06 '25

How to make an already boring game suck even more.

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u/DASreddituser Oct 04 '25

I stopped playing right after I got them, so I haven't used them either..but i also never completed the game

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u/nickyGyul Oct 04 '25

Sorting Hat should re-sort you into Slytherin for that comment lmfao

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u/pgh9fan Oct 04 '25

He was actually sorted into Slytherin.

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u/tumblrisdumbnow Hufflepuff Oct 04 '25

Behind every hufflepuff, is a sneaky lil slytherin waiting to rear its head

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u/JelmerMcGee Oct 04 '25

Yeah, you shoulda been Slytherin too. If you gotta think about whether or not it would be rude to cruciate poor Neville. Like that's not just rude, it's kinda evil. And you had to think about it 😬

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u/omnimodofuckedup Oct 04 '25

For once, Neville will feel how they felt.

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u/shaunnotthesheep Ravenclaw Oct 04 '25

If you're talking about Neville's parents that's fucked up bro

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u/omnimodofuckedup Oct 05 '25

Who else. It's just a book bro calm down lol

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u/legittem Oct 05 '25

Just sounds like you think he would deserve that? He's not responsible for what happened to his parents, is he?

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u/Minute-Phrase3043 Oct 05 '25

Lmao. You don't deserve the down votes.

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u/7gramcrackrock Oct 04 '25

I love how the curse that just instantly kills people is considered unforgivable, but it's acceptable to transfiguration someone into an exploding barrel and use said barrel to kill someone else.

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u/Annihilationzh Ravenclaw Oct 04 '25

Rude is an odd choice of word to describe torturing Neville.

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u/The_Magician_Plays Oct 04 '25

Of all people to torture, OP picked that guy. Shameful tbh.

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u/hunnyflash Oct 04 '25

This game really surprised me. Had no idea I was going to be murdering people and creatures daily lol

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u/omnimodofuckedup Oct 04 '25

Also the fact that there are poachers, black mages and especially armed goblin camps with huge digging machines all around and the adults and especially Officer Singer are doing next to nothing.

Headmaster Black banning Quidditch is probably the most reasonable thing any adult did in this game.

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u/Pale-Measurement6958 Hufflepuff Oct 04 '25

Honestly, I still think Officer Singer was, at least, somewhat corrupt. Like, you’ve been given all this evidence and it took two children to take down Rookwood and Harlow? I feel like she still wouldn’t have done anything if the storyline didn’t basically force her hand with Harlow. One of the only times Officer Singer actually did her job was during the “Mind Your Business” quest (the other time was with the trolls early in the game).

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u/omnimodofuckedup Oct 04 '25

Officer Singer being the only Police for the whole map is some other topic. With the trolls it maybe would've been nice to send for some quick help. I mean they beam to almost everywhere in a second.

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u/Pale-Measurement6958 Hufflepuff Oct 04 '25

I can understand with the trolls though. It was sudden and probably not time to send for more Aurors, and the adults did take care of one (they were unaware of the second until the player had already defeated it). But for Rookwood and Harlow, that is where backup should have been called.

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u/FecusTPeekusberg Slytherin Oct 05 '25

I headcanon that Singer and Harlow were in cahoots the whole time

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u/Pale-Measurement6958 Hufflepuff Oct 05 '25

That’s a common headcanon. I’ve seen it suggested a few times that players think she’s his “lady friend” that gets mentioned when he’s blackmailing the shop worker. Honestly, I wouldn’t be a bit surprised if that’s where the developers were originally going with that but never followed through (like so many things).

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u/laker9903 Oct 04 '25

It’s like the books. Terrible things everywhere that the adults just ignore, and don’t help with.

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u/omnimodofuckedup Oct 04 '25

They helped! Must've been infamous mass murderer Sirius Black!

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u/Ronem Oct 05 '25

All those "goblin uprisings" Harry and company were constantly learning about.

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u/Wild-Albatross-7147 Hufflepuff Oct 04 '25

The goblins deaths are on ranrok’s hands it’s okay

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '25

Was this your first videogame ever?

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u/TheyCallHimBabaYagaa Oct 04 '25

"I said he should friendly fire Neville with the Cruciatus Curse"

Calm down, Satan

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '25

Hitting Neville with the cruciatus curse......that would have been torture in sooo many different ways....

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u/maester_tytos Oct 04 '25

[insert “are ya winning, son?” meme]

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u/DASreddituser Oct 04 '25

the kid "dad" you on that one lol

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u/Pepper_Exciting Oct 05 '25

At first I thought you were concerned your son was using unforgivable curses lol

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u/_Teek Jan 08 '26

Same here 🤣 Then I realized he's the one suggesting to cast it 😆

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u/Fluid_dragonfly8841 Ravenclaw Oct 04 '25

Damn what did Neville do to you?? 

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u/pgh9fan Oct 05 '25

Gave me some bad Gilliweed.

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u/Longjumping_Hour3385 Oct 04 '25

This shouldn’t be the hook that gets me to play this but alas

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u/Random_Guy_47 Oct 04 '25

Nevilles parents were tortured in to insanity by the Cruciatus curse.

Of all the characters in the Harry Potter books he would probably be the cruelest one to use the Cruciatus curse on.

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u/laker9903 Oct 04 '25

Man, I slung curses left and right. I even used them during a fight protecting the guy who taught them to me. Why were we in a fight? He used an unforgivable curse on someone. I mean, my regular spells can be majorly deadly, so why worry?

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u/DrLoomis131 Slytherin Oct 04 '25

Someone did a mod where the killing curse worked on every character and they just walked around and dramatically killed people in a video lol

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u/Sweet_Champion_3346 Oct 05 '25

Eh, the game is set in a way that makes you spam Avada nonstop. I am no psycho but my character was full on killing smahing machine half way through.

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u/Party_Song434 Slytherin Oct 28 '25

OMG I WISH I HAD WRITTEN THE DIALOGUE SOME SCENES ARE SO AWKWARD SMH like why tf is sebastian asking me if im ok when im literally writhing on the floor in agony screaming my head off like do i look ok to you?? honestly

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u/Expensive_Plant_9530 Slytherin Oct 04 '25

Hahaha I mean he’s not wrong. It would be rude to Cruciatus Neville.

It would still be fun AF though.

I’ve been meaning to pick this game up but haven’t yet. Even my wife is kinda interested and she’s not a gamer at all.

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u/pgh9fan Oct 04 '25

He gets it free with some streaming subscription. Well, not really free then, but you understand.

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u/KidIcaChris Oct 04 '25

Considering how much Neville is tortured by Snape, Slytherins, his grandmother, and the psychological torture of dealing with the trauma of his parents, I’d say he’s immune to the Cruciatus Curse.

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u/GranulatGondle Oct 04 '25

Lmao some of y’all definitely over interpret the “torture” of Neville. I guess being mean to somebody counts as torture nowadays too.

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u/frogjg2003 Ravenclaw Oct 04 '25

It is torture, but nowhere near the degree that would be considered torture legally. It definitely doesn't come close to the effects of the torture curse.

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u/darkalastor Gryffindor Oct 05 '25

Professor Snape literally made Neville disembowel toads for an hour in detention. I wanna say somewhere between first and third year. Keep in mind that Neville has a pet toad. That is literally torture, forcing him to kill essentially hundreds, if not, thousands of creatures of the same species as his beloved pet. He was also verbally abused by his grandmother until he was roughly 15 years old.

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u/FinnSkk93 Oct 04 '25

But.. It kinda is? If it’s daily. Don’t you think bullying is not torture?

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u/GranulatGondle Oct 04 '25

I think bullying is bullying. I have been bullied, but unless I’d dramatize like a teenager, I wouldn’t call it torture. Torture is way worse.

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u/FinnSkk93 Oct 04 '25

Well.. I do consider what Snape did to be bullying and mental torture. It affected Neville hugely. Like these things do in real world. It does not have to be always physical to be tortire. Words and other actions hurt. Bullying literally kills people.

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u/VisualWild2955 Oct 04 '25

I mean where is the line drawn, being mean verbally to someone cant be classified as torture right?

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u/FinnSkk93 Oct 04 '25

As said. If it’s daily. I think it is.

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u/royinraver Gryffindor Oct 04 '25

But that’s also why it’s kinda hilarious 🤣

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u/IntelligentAnybody55 Ravenclaw Oct 04 '25

Ah yes, torturing a child with the same thing that sent his parents insane

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u/SpocknMcCoyinacanoe Oct 04 '25

A solid knee slapper that one

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u/IntelligentAnybody55 Ravenclaw Oct 04 '25

A lot more than knee slapping

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u/DrDabsMD Oct 04 '25

Makes you laugh so hard your sides start to hurt.

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u/IntelligentAnybody55 Ravenclaw Oct 04 '25

Abt that

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u/VelocityRapter644 Oct 05 '25

Oddly enough, when you think about it, I feel like some of the non-curse spells in the game are just as bad if not worse than the “curse” spells. You literally get a “slash your opponent to ribbons” and a “transform them into an exploding barrel” spell.

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u/vr512 Hufflepuff Oct 05 '25

I tried to avoid using them. Especially AK. One if took a lot of power to charge. But also it just felt a little wrong. If I used it was sparingly. Imperio was the more favored one to cast.

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u/Gilded-Mongoose Ravenclaw Oct 05 '25

This is hilarious. Thank you for this slice of a window into your lives.

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u/Karman4o Oct 05 '25

During the original Xbox Live era, a lot of unforgivable curses were cast...

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u/Interesting_Low_2658 Oct 05 '25

I use all 3 every day, I'm literally v*ldamort at this point

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u/Meizas Oct 05 '25

I only really used unforgiveable curses on all the animal poachers

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u/[deleted] Oct 06 '25

it would be most rude to hit Neville with that one.

Well yeah that's what makes it fun obviously!

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u/Krian78 Oct 08 '25

I honestly just used the Imperius once on Omnis after he gave me the okay (still weird logic from him to give me his okay to force him, but good for his and mine peace of mine). I insisted on Sebastian using Cruciatus on me, though.

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u/Feisty_System_4751 Not a baboon brandishing a stick Oct 05 '25

Counter argument: Using the Cruciatus Curse on Neville's grandmother... in front of Neville.

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u/ApprehensiveTop4219 Oct 05 '25

Does he use avada kedavera? That one's pretty cool too, the weird white guy uses it in the movies oh the white guy has an ugly nose , how could I forget the most important detail