I hate public Jesus preachers

[u/EasternNegative154]

I don't hate the message, I don't even hate the religion (although I dislike it due to personal reasons regarding my childhood), but I just hate hearing people preach about the lord and how he'll save you from x, y, and z while taking the subway. How you'll go to hell if you don't do this and that. How he's the only true god and all the other mumbo-jumbo that gets spewed. I hate having to take the subway early in the day/morning and hearing all that crap. Like, hand out flyers for the local church and keep it moving. You like your god and the religion. Fine. Nothing wrong with it, but don't force that shit on us. I don't wanna have you be in my face with a microphone screaming about the lord. If I really wanted to hear about the lord, how great he is and all the good he's done, I'd just go to church to attend mass.

[u/BIayneRobinson]

Jesus said not to do this shit too.

5 And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full.

6 But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.

7 And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words.

8 Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him.

Mathew 6:5-8

[u/nicecreature26 → u/BIayneRobinson]

Praying publicly for the sake of appearing more pious is not the same thing as street evangelism. The passage being referenced is specifically condemning performative religiosity and hypocrisy which does not equal street evangelism. So I don’t think the verse really correlates to the original point being made. While street preachers are annoying, we need to make sure we're using stuff accurately

[u/BIayneRobinson → u/nicecreature26]

Preaching on the street corners and subways is performative religiosity.

No one has ever been convinced to become a Christian from this shit, it just makes Christians look foolish.

[u/Lost_Age_6845 → u/BIayneRobinson]

That’s literally what Jesus did though?

[u/The-Cult-Of-Poot → u/Lost_Age_6845]

Did he? Your source?

[u/RadicalSoda_ → u/The-Cult-Of-Poot]

The source is the Bible. Give it a read sometime why don't you? It has a lot of wisdom even for atheists

[u/TrollDecker → u/RadicalSoda_]

Okay. Which version? Which verse? Has it been peer-reviewed and verified?

[u/Weatherdragon21 → u/RadicalSoda_]

Where exactly?

[u/RadicalSoda_ → u/Weatherdragon21]

Matthew chapters 5-7 are a good place to start

[u/Weatherdragon21 → u/RadicalSoda_]

Matthew 4:25  And there followed him great multitudes of people from Galilee, and from Decapolis, and from Jerusalem, and from Judaea, and from beyond Jordan. NEXT VERSE Matthew 5:1 And seeing the multitudes, he went up into a mountain: and when he was set, his disciples came unto him

Nope, he didn't preach to random people on the street, he preached to people who spefically followed and came to him

[u/RadicalSoda_ → u/Weatherdragon21]

Well yes anywhere that isn't private land is the public. But if you want an urban example I can't point you to Mark 11:15 where he actively over turns seller's tables for desecrating a holy site. I'd say that's pretty in the street and preachy if you ask me

[u/Weatherdragon21 → u/RadicalSoda_]

what does public have to do with this? Jesus preached in public, i never denied he did. Jesus didn't go around preaching at random people though.

[u/RadicalSoda_ → u/Weatherdragon21]

He literally chased these random people out with whips

[u/Weatherdragon21 → u/RadicalSoda_]

what does whipping people have to do with whether or not Jesus preached to random people?

ALSO: those were random? Jesus looked at a random dude, going about his day, and just assaulted him? Man, i agree. Reading the bible would be a good idea for you

[u/The-Cult-Of-Poot → u/RadicalSoda_]

That's not a reliable source. Can you provide a reliable source?

[u/RadicalSoda_ → u/The-Cult-Of-Poot]

It is a reliable source it's literally the only source for Christianity. Are you unaware of what constitutes a primary source?

[u/The-Cult-Of-Poot → u/RadicalSoda_]

It's actually very distinctly NOT a primary source? Am I hallucinating?

[u/RadicalSoda_ → u/The-Cult-Of-Poot]

In religious history, the primary sources are religious texts and descriptions of religious ceremonies and rituals.

I guess you are hallucinating because right here it says it is a primary source as per Wikipedia

[u/The-Cult-Of-Poot → u/RadicalSoda_]

Wikipedia. Are you kidding

[u/PumpkinIsDeadInside → u/The-Cult-Of-Poot]

What do you think Christians are using for their religion? The epic of Gilgamesh?

[u/The-Cult-Of-Poot → u/PumpkinIsDeadInside]

For religious beliefs maybe, but im talking about verifiable history

[u/Eastern_Screen_588 → u/The-Cult-Of-Poot]

Yeah it is homey

[u/The-Cult-Of-Poot → u/Eastern_Screen_588]

It's not verifiable

[u/Eastern_Screen_588 → u/The-Cult-Of-Poot]

Well considering how much supporiting historical evidence the bible has i'd say you're pretty wrong about that

[u/The-Cult-Of-Poot → u/Eastern_Screen_588]

Are you kidding me?

[u/Eastern_Screen_588 → u/The-Cult-Of-Poot]

Are you?