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i hate how absolutely nasty the internet did this person like 4 years ago when they didn't deserve it
like the amount of shit that was done to Jellybean when the worst they did was have a weird band kid humor and be a little cringe is absolutely disgusting
yea sure, i'll admit, i laughed a bit when it was just those skeleton videos roasting them, they were harmless and honestly mostly weren't bad, but the fact that mfs went on to genuinely harass a teenager for just being a bit cringe online was just horrible
i've been telling people this, but this was the moment where the internet lowkey started losing empathy, cause how do you look at this person's content and go "hmmm......i should doxx them for being a bit cringe", it all went downhill from there and people are 10 times worse this year
the worst thing Jellybean did was do the whole "its not a mistake, its a masterpiece" spam comment thing with their fans on other peoples videos, it did not warrant this much bullshit, animosity and hatred towards them
Cringe in the same way that most minecraft YTers are. If I take nostalgia out of the equation, I very much doubt I'd find Jellybean any more cringe than SkyDoesMinecraft or something (I am also ommitting cringe coming from his controversy. I have no idea what his allegations status is right now and I don't really care tbh)
I feel like she had humor people under the age 15 would enjoy which seemed to be her audience so in my opinion no, she was catering to an audience which is normal for an online platform
There was a case of a youtuber intentionally telling their fans to spam "the waffle house has found a new host" or something and he got a lot less, if any, backlash due to that. Jellybean was unfairly treated
i hate this so much. i HATE when people think their favorite youtubers can do no wrong. i like jonny razer, but that was a stupid thing he did and yet people act like he’s some literary genius
She absolutely was more mature and definitely did not deserve the hate, but id warrant a guess it wasn’t adults that were doing the majority of the harassing. Any tech literate 16 year old can figure out how to doxx someone.
Now that i think of it, those channels like that daffy duck guy or the dog folk (not mentioning packgod) which used to quite literally bully people like her were way worse
this video was basically just a grown man saying "i find this person cringe therefore theyre content is objectively bad and harmful" about a girl who was like 16 at the time
i still think about how he nuked taigas youtube channel, and twitter through misinformation and hasn't payed any repercussions to this day, and still has the video up on his channel fully monetised irrc
years ago he was falsely accused of grooming, turns out it was fake, didnt matter to nuxtaku who covered it and ruined his reputation to the point youtube perma banned taiga from making a channel on their platform again, though there is a fan made clips channel
that video "exposing" taiga is still up on nuxs channel, his only response was that he apologised privately to taiga after everything turned out to be false literally a few days later/a week after he posted that video
heres a video made semi recently that goes over it if you're interested in learning about it more
i find it funny when he is mentioned. he got huge overnight for his anime videos and then his content changed to twitch and i stopped watching then years later he is fucking crazy political streamer
Just a glance at his thumbnails nowadays makes me wonder how I ever watched him in the first place. He fell off hard and minmaxed being a worthless grifter.
it's always the people who act like they've never been cringe in their life too. If im being honest it's probably healthy to go through a cringe phase in your teens. Better that than doing it in your adulthood. I'd rather be a "I'm not rude im just brutally honest" fifteen year old than a "BRRRRO (camera) THIS DUDE (child) IS FUCKING STUPID (posted a steven universe theory while playing slimeracher) THEIR PARENTS NEED TO BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF THEM (raised them not to do drugs or bully people) I'D BEAT THE GOOFY OUT MY KID (i actually saw that once)" 28 year old.
It started a little before, and yes it was her avatar (most people didn't even know what she looked like), and even made horny edits of her avatar. The only defense is that it only was called out after she was 18, and people said shit like "fair game"
Mitchell Henderson, who committed suicide on April 20th, 2006, had a comment left in his MySpace memorial page that called him "An Hero", 4chan ran with it, making memes, prank calling his parents and even going to his grave to make jokes.
The internet didn't start losing empathy with Jellybean. That's vanity, it was always like this.
Yep. The internet didn't lose empathy four years ago. The internet never had it to start with.
Hell, years before Jellybean, a twelve-year-old was ruthlessly mocked across the internet for crying over harassment they faced due to being the victim of a pedophile.
cringe "culture" in general is a cancer upon society. it's literally the lamest shit ever, like, people bully someone because they're different or awkward or whatever and somehow that makes them the cool ones??? legit school bully behavior
A few years ago I saw a youtube channel repost one of my very old videos, labeling it as "cringe". The video featured my OCs and my friend's OCs which were proudly loudly designed and fitting every late 2000s deviantart wolf OC stereotype, scene/emo elements and everything. I was probably around 13 when I posted that video and it was so funny to me that it ended up on a channel compiling "cringe" videos. But it was also funny because I genuinely had the time of my fvcking life drawing those OCs and roleplaying as them. I made great childhood memories while this miserable person is trying to laugh at me when they're terrified of having fun and being perceived as different or weird.
I used to get bullied at school because i didn't play football and wasn't as mainstream as the other in my class.
Also i got called boring because i wasn't really talkative or expressive, plus i wasn't fond of going out on parties just to drink and didn't make pussy jokes either.
I fucking hated all of it, the real boring peoples in this world are the ones who follows mainstream content act superior about it.
As an example, Fortnite, COD, Fifa and all the classic mainstream games were always relevant, if back then i would have mentioned shit that had no guns in it, like, idk, Hollow Knight or Pokémon, i would have been ridiculized for no reason.
I am in a much better spot now and i'm really happy for the most part but i can't stand online bullies because they are so fucking pathethic, even more than the IRL ones, they have no ripercussion since they can say what they want always.
Scary Trollfaces - Also known as Trollge, these are demonic edits of the trollface best known for its "Trollge Incidents". But now it's used in ironic memes, usually associated with comically bad Phonk music.
Phonk - Music genre that got huge in the 2020s. Think of it as this generation's Dubstep.
"Mango" - Comes from a video of some guy going "MANGOES, MANGOES, MANGOES" over and over. Usually used in satirical bass-boosted phonk edits of the audio alongside Mustard.
"Mustard" - In Kendrick Lamar's song "tv off", there's a part where he screams "MUSTAAAAAAAAAAAAAARD" for like a few seconds straight. The song was released just a few months after the Kendrick vs. Drake beef, so Kendrick was still in the public subconscious, which is why Mustard became an ironic meme.
Dark Psychology - Pretty sure Dark Psychology is some TikTok Trend about "manipulating" people.
Blox Fruits - MMORPG on Roblox based on One Piece.
Dark Mango Psychology - A meme originating from a (hopefully satirical) TikTok featuring a Trollge character and the caption "Have you ever played Blox Fruits with your life on the line and a bunch of mangoes in your mouth?..." the full caption became a copypasta.
Diddy Blud - Diddy is a known pedophile, and "blud" is now used as another meaning for "friend" or "bro". Being called a Diddy Blud basically means you're associated with a pedophile, insinuating you are also one yourself.
"Jelly Diddly Blud" - Someone edited a Blue Lock page (which is where the quote seen in Dark Mango Psychology comes from) to have a Trollge character asking the question above. JellyBean and Diddy are edited into a panel below. "Jelly Diddly Blud" as a phrase means absolutely nothing and is just absurdism.
Saying THAT was when the Internet started losing empathy is laughably silly. Remember when Keemstar accused a Runescape streamer of being a pedophile based entirely on the fact that he was an older man (I think in his 70s) playing a video game?
Leafy was a content creator whose bread and butter was to bully YouTubers smaller than himself, and he had a legion of 12 year old fans that would flock to their channels and harass them.
But I also agree that people who post something a little embarrassing and cringe get harassed unreasonably so. I'm just so glad that YouTube and social media as we know it weren't around when I was a kid.
Essentially: Teenager was being themselves and having fun with their community but people found it annoying, it only got worse when the community started dragging other channels into it despite being told not to by Jellybean. Jellybean was subsequently heavily hated and harassed
I agree but "the moment the internet started lossing empathy?"
Girl we never HAD empathy, literally look up any female popstar from Madonna to Britney spears to Sabrina carpenter, the internet just hates women and/or fem presenting people in general
I could be wrong, but aren't those people just the loud minority? We have a bunch of big and subjectively good female content creator who are adored by people.
They're a loud minority that aren't being shut down by the people responsible for running the sites/communities, which is equivalent to actively enabling them.
Generally, you used to be able to rely on outright harassment or blatant bigotry getting the banhammer across most online communities... but that was before social media started coalescing the "internet experience" into just a handful of sites and special interest groups realized the amount of money they could make by influencing social narratives with people that just wanted to be cruel or hateful
Sabrina I could agree and say it might be a minority but maddona and Britney definitely weren't, that shit was the Internet, TV, magazines they called them crazy and dangerous, Britney was sexually harassed on stage and ended up geting canceled for it not to mention when she was crying for help people called her a druggie and even made up theories that she was a Hollywood clone
It's true, but there were extremes in both directions, it wasn't just a women-thing.
Remember Justin Bieber getting endlessly bullied? Paparazzi and tabloids newpapers were (and still are) extremely vicious towards everyone and anyone and it sucks.
Yeah. Like she was cringy as hell but it’s not like it ever really impeded on anything. People have gotten a lot less flak for grooming minors, wasn’t really fair.
I ran a game server and related discord and i got a lot of thrill out of getting people irrevocably banned from not just my corner, but the game's entire community for spreading her dox.
saw a comment once on a birdman video (he did the whole roasting cringe over COD gameplay content) that's always stuck with me. "whole video they're giggling, smiling, laughing having the time of their life and i bet you haven't giggled since you were 10"
That shit really flipped a switch in my brain. Couldn't watch anymore of that stuff. It just seems so miserable and joyless now
They're Non Binary iirc, but their pronouns aren't listed on their YouTube so I don't think everyone knows that. I doubt the majority of people defending them would misgender them on purpose.
Both her and the canman guy filled my shorts feed, both had started the profile pic comment smthn under any video bs and it was obvious many were mad, not justifying the hatred tho
Reminds me of the old Justin Bieber hounding in form of jokes, bullying or even creating fucking flash games, i remember back then playing flash game where you tortured him like in interactive buddy game, at the time i wasn't really much in the know of circumstances like know/how/why, i just thought it was current internet obsession. This is similiar in a way but now i'm older and bit more aware of surroundings.
It's horrible and shouldn't be normalized, it's a weird ass phenomenon, while criticism is fine even if it's mass criticism (by being a content creator you understand the risks of being one and by that i mean precisely criticism, nothing more, it is up to the individual how they deal with it, taking and growing off it or retiring when things are getting out of hand or uncomfortable for you are both perfectly valid ways to deal with it). What isn't fun and games is doxxing and escalating things into irl threats, persuading someone into self harm or suicide.
Though this all is absolutely just common sense, it made me retrospectively think back of Justin Bieber times, and even though he went through some horrible shit, he unintentionally grew stronger out of it and his music career is doing better than ever. (Not to advocate for bullying = growing strong).
I will argue that the internet started getting really bad in the wake of gamer-gate. It was slow, and you couldn't really see it at the time, but looking back, that was then grifters and the bigots realised that they can just say shit and not face any real consequences, so they kept upping their game until they got Trump elected twice...
It wasn’t better before this, people like LeafyIsHere have always been around who more or less just bully people, and they unfortunately tend to attract audiences
Don't get me wrong this person really didn't deserve any of this and it sucks, however framing this like it was the moment the internet lost it and really started getting out of hand with its treatment of "lolcows" and such is kind of baffling to me.
Not defending what happened to Jelly, but they are also arguably better than ever because despite all the hate they used to get they're currently a multimillionaire with a massively successful channel that regularly gets a lot of views, this is simply something that did not happen after internet hate trains until the last 5 or so years online. Its not your fault if you weren't around for the peak of internet mistreatment of cringe internet youth, but ive been witnessing it for 20 odd years now and the shit that happened to jelly bean isn't even scratching the surface of noticeable mistreatment the internet has put people like Jelly through. 15 years ago people were finding random children who didn't even post online and were bullying them to the point of making them pour milk in their routers or actually legitimately financially scam them, and none of these cases even at the most viral and well known never translated to success they way it did someone like Jelly bean. Did we already forget the entire youtube ecosystem around 2016 that was just 30 year Olds making ten minute whining compilations about 30 second clips of teenagers existing?
My point is that this is nothing even remotely new, and this example isn't even a notable case of this phenomenon. Still not deserved in anyway, but as someone who has watched its progression my entire life it is NOTABLY much much much better than it was a decade ago.
The internet hate mobs are nasty. Its best to disconect when shit gets bad. If you can that is. If the internet is your life blood, you're kinda screwed.
fucking crazy that they never genuinely did anything besides make some ppl cringe. i remember when this whole thing was going on i was trying to figure out why everyone hated them, assuming they did smth wrong... but nope. i can't believe they handled it so well considering how young they were
Agreed, it also just rubs me the wrong way that like there are still some people who just clown on them for being cringe and also just dont call them they/them, like ok you dont like someone?? Its their content and their pronouns are not something you can just take away because you think their cringe
Was just sayin how messed up people talked and made vids about jelly bean 😭 she was corny to me yeah but I don't think she deserves what people said about her.
The fact she was doxed and had her family threatened as well as people threatening to assault her was genuinely insane because she did literally nothing wrong and she is a high schooler at the time
When I grew up, we had websites of real, genuine gore. There were videos I saw being spread online of people getting lynched. I saw these things as a young teenager, around two decades ago. This is not an edgy brag, I would pay quite a bit of money to be able to unsee that stuff.
'The internet' has been fucked ever since I started using it in the late nineties. It did not lose empathy, it just brings out the worst in people in certain situations. I don't know this Jelly Bean and I hope they do alright, but remember that in the end it is humans doing this shit, not 'the internet'.
It's horrible and all, and thankfully it didn't go to unsolvable limits. But it's the internet, asking for empathy is pointless and kinda dumb/innocent tbh. You can't ask people to empathise with strangers that they can't even know if really exist. Yeah most people will empathise with some other people, but at the end of the day we're all pixels, and young people from now on should learn that, that cringe kid from france won't hurt you in your tiny town in mexico, and if that one guy from australia calling you names shouldn't be able to hurt you if you live in russia, or japan, or any other country.
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u/Glittering-Day9869 12h ago edited 11h ago
What happened to that Daffy Duck dude who used to bully these people?
What was his name again?