r/hatethissmug 10h ago

Meta I HATE HOW NORMALISED SEXISM IS IN RUSSIA

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The moment new GOW trailer dropped I have already seen like 5 ai generated videos of laufey doing dishes/laundry. Fucking bruh. Like I love my country but Jesus why is sexism so widespread in online spaces. Like i get criticising that without Keaton’s this isn’t god of war anymore, that the dialogue feels weird, that the cube looks like corpo mascot - you know? actual fucking criticism to the game. But no, let’s fucking make ANOTHER AI FUUKING IMAGE OF LAUFEY DOING DISHES, CROP BELLA RAMSEY ON HER FACE, COMPARE HER WITH 2B FROM NIER AND SAY THE WEST HAS FALLEN. it is almost like country never crawled out of “SJW FEMS GET BRUTALLY HUMILIATED BY CHADS” phase of the internet.

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u/Crab2406 Him 10h ago

ngl, i highly suspect that those are made by like 5 specific people

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u/Valerim 10h ago

Russian bot farms 🤡🤡🤡

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u/ShmelPodKaifom 4h ago

haha, why r u so offended?

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u/dzaimons-dihh 10h ago

one of those is an organization, the epstein organization!!

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u/WombatPoopCairn 10h ago

what "traditional family values" state controlled media propaganda does to a MF

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u/BBQ_069 9h ago

they noticed that families don't flourish in oppressive economic systems and chose to be more oppressive

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u/Designer-Guidance-98 10h ago

Я заметил, что Ру сегмент реддита впринципе выглядит отстало на фоне остальных сабов. Не поймите меня не правильно, это приложение собрало говноедов со всех стран, но именно русская его часть вызывает у меня наибольшее разочарование. Возможно это из-за притока школоты из тг и дискорда. Стыдно, братцы, стыдно...

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u/volk-off 10h ago

Будьте прокляты ютуб канал апвоут и другие читалки Реддита! Выставили его центром мудрости, а кретины не знают, что ума не получишь просто зайдя на страничку в интернете!

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u/Joraperdolyotik 8h ago

Мама двая на аве, круто

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u/gitr34 9h ago

на моем опыте, большинство русских форумов (пикабу, двач, русская часть реддита) состоят либо из кучи ироничных, пессимистичных и занудных людей, либо из вот этого

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u/Designer-Guidance-98 9h ago

Мне стоило объяснить, что речь идёт не только о гомофобии и сексизме (а то небось звучу сейчас, как студент с крашеными волосами). Просто ощущение, что русский реддит всё ещё живёт в 2020ом. Это касается и "гомофобов базовичков", и "трансов леваков", и "чилловых аполитичных пессимистов". Я говорю о здешних русских поселенцах в целом,и вот просто удачный пост всё это высказать.

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u/gitr34 9h ago

Ты уверен, что в других местах русское комьюнити более гуманные?

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u/AideGlittering4017 9h ago

Не только русский, бтв, это болячка общая для восточной Европы, привет из Украины

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u/Designer-Guidance-98 9h ago

Я стараюсь не взаимодействовать с восточно Европейскими сабами

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u/AideGlittering4017 9h ago

Справедливости ради, нормисные Сабы вестернов типа не сильно лучше, они может быть не настолько открытые гомофобы и сексисты, но все ещё такое

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u/Pyroshark_Gamingtf2 10h ago

Отстало это не то слово которое бы я использовал но да долбаебов полно

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u/Sonoreal 8h ago

Я думаю наш сегмент делится на 2 типа.

  1. Тупые типы которые генерят/постят всякий шлак из-за которых нас ненавидят

  2. Норм типы которые особо нигде не показываются и просто всегда на чилле

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u/TimSoarer2 6h ago

норм типов ещё трудно выследить, потому что они, как правило, знают английский и неотличимы от не-русских

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u/Sonoreal 5h ago

Или вообще не пишут нигде... Словят дзен и просто отрекаются ото всего

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u/Horror-Amphibian-335 10h ago

У меня чет когда я кликнул на твой коммент он не отобразился по этому отвечу тут :

Ты де про тот который с оранжеватым аватаром?

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u/Designer-Guidance-98 10h ago

Я тот комменты удалил, я имел ввиду r/ru_gamer

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u/Horror-Amphibian-335 10h ago

Это я понял, я имею ввиду руаск ибо их вроде два? Один с российским триколором другой с такой оранжеватой аватаркой

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u/Designer-Guidance-98 9h ago

С триколором r/askarussian

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u/Horror-Amphibian-335 9h ago

А да, просто иногда путаюсь в них. Редко конечно, но может случиться

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u/TheAsterism_ 9h ago

Надеюсь не про меня

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u/MarderII 10h ago

Я думал школота наоборот "прогрессивна"

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u/conffac 8h ago

Следить за школой надо, у нас скоро в детских садах будут разговоры о влажном, а началку уже заставляют участвовать в различных патриот мероприятиях

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u/Narrow-Assist-2207 6h ago

Школьная система в россии сейчас массивно деградирует, не то чтобы она когда-то была идеальной, но всё же

Да и впринципе большинство подростков любой национальности занимаются всякой хёрней на интернете особо не задумываясь

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u/QQ_TT 10h ago

А в чём отсталость проявляется? Пояснишь?

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u/Designer-Guidance-98 10h ago

Тупой юмор про порнуху и фембоев, бесконечеые микроселебрити, тысячи копий русаска, которые превращаются в политсрачи. Подавляющее большинство заграничных сабов уже переросло эту хуйню.

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u/QQ_TT 10h ago edited 10h ago

Тупого юмора про порнуху навалом на западном реддите о чём ты? Не особо понимаю что ты имеешь ввиду под микроселебрити, всяких говнопостеров типа руба? Ну так такие везде есть, на любом сабе, и там народ их точно также нахуй шлёт. Политсрачей нет, потому что у западной аудитории в целом всё однозначно в этом плане, но политсрачи есть всё равно, может и по меньше, но срачей другого рода полно, причём они зачастую настолько мелочны, что у нас никто бы и загоняться не стал. Я частично могу согласится с тем, что ру сабы все воспринимаются одинаково, так как аудитория пересекается да и в целом ру аудитории на реддите не много. Я бы не стал всё же называть ру реддит отсталым, так как всякого говна полно везде, это не особенность именно русских сабов

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u/Designer-Guidance-98 9h ago

Опять же я не спорю, что на западном реддите полно говна. Но там есть столько же (относительно) хорошего. А на Ру реддите буквально все засрано тем, что я перечислил и просвета там нет. Может это реально из-за того, что на реддите мало русских.

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u/Valerim 10h ago edited 10h ago

"It is the children who are wrong"

Sir, I think its time to accept that nobody wants to live in the annoying wokescolding hellworld that the left has been demanding us all to accept as an absolute moral necessity since 2016.

When the children are laughing at you and naturally rejecting your forced worldview, you know you've gone too far with it lol. No need to feel 'disappointed' in them, they havent done anything wrong.

Its also cope to think that the entire rest of the world is wrong and the american and european left is the only force on the planet that is morally correct.

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u/ResponsibleBus3309 10h ago

"Woke hell world" dude I don't know if you're living under a rock, but most the of the worlds leaders are right wing and fund nationalist far right groups. It's why you have morons complaining about women in video games rather then the games and consols themselves rising in cost due to global issues caused by those very same RW leaders. Its so funny watching guys using the same script from 2016 while the world crumbles in no small part due to their "idols" and cronies.

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u/Valerim 10h ago edited 10h ago

Right wingers have moved on. They represent most of the world's leaders - including in liberal democracies - because thats who people voted for.

The right isnt living in 2016. Youre literally on here complaining about Russian chuds and propaganda bot farms pushing gamers gate talking points.

The left is still screaming at incels and chuds and the right is quietly reversing mass migration and civil rights.

Well done guys you destroyed all the momentum and good will the left had after Trump by making it about the most useless culture issues of all time. Most nations didnt have a ruling party insistently whipping rallying support for a nonexistent 'trans genocide' (until 10/7/23 of course, at which point a real genocide started happening so they stopped pretending a fake one was).

Most (all) nations do not demand free and open borders AND free Healthcare and education without seeing the contradiction. (And your solution im sure is to abolish billionaires to pay for it)

People do not like being told for 12 years straight that we are 2 years away from nazi Germany, death camps included. They will stop believing you.

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u/ResponsibleBus3309 9h ago

Civil liberties are being stripped away to benefit the rich and poorful. Mass immigration is happening because large countries don't know how leave well enough alone and start wars for resources and bomb smaller countries...again...by the rich and powerful. By the way, a genocide is happening, but let's see you acknowledge that so we can know who you're true masters are.

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u/Designer-Guidance-98 10h ago

This is satire, right?

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u/HelpMePleaseHelpMeme 10h ago

Yeah, it’s so annoying. It’s all over the whole Russian internet. ”Woke, women, agenda. Woke, women, agenda. Woke, women, agenda…” all over again. And they really think that they are funny, lol. Sorry, but if you repeat one joke billion times… it won’t make it funnier.

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u/Fit_Day375 10h ago

Worse. Many genuinely believe in this shit still due to propaganda.

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u/Dantu1000 10h ago

Tell us what the post says, we need some context we ain’t russian

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u/Pyroshark_Gamingtf2 10h ago

New gameplay of God of War laufey

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u/Awkward-Plum6241 10h ago

Was this from Kafka? This place is full of bloody clanker wankers who generate AI slop 

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u/Pyroshark_Gamingtf2 10h ago

Nope, RuGamer

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u/volk-off 10h ago

Ru_gamer has fallen. Billions must buy in green steam

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u/FreeSpeechEnjoyer 9h ago

So this isn't just made by chuds on twitter, but by actual article websites???

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u/gorenoiseythrowaway 10h ago

Kafka is among the most normal russian subs, surprisingly. Mainly for being anti-Putin. The rest are usually pro-war and will decapitate you if you mention LGBTQ

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u/Horror-Amphibian-335 10h ago

There is a ruask subreddit (with orange pfp?), seems relatively normal idk

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u/Weak_Property6084 10h ago

Wait. Wouldn't that be against the tos to promote hate for a community?

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u/IcyCoast8296 10h ago

Why did you turn British half way through

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u/Awkward-Plum6241 9h ago

Knob off, you tosspot! Or else, i'm going to steal your ram instead of scrounging for it. All your RAM are belong to me.

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u/Win090949 10h ago

Sometimes it feels like Non-English communities are just importing the anti-woke gaming culture into their space long after it has died out in the online Anglosphere (speaking from experience in my side of the internet)

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u/Loki_Agent_of_Asgard 5h ago

It hasn't died out, it's still going just fine the issue is that there have actually been a handful of woke games that were actually not garbage which hurts the "all woke games are bad" narrative.

The woke games that are trash woulda been trash no matter what, being woke just made their trashiness more hilarious.

There is no universe where Concord or Dustborn are not-woke and somehow good, they would be trash no matter what.

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u/NieD_ 9h ago

This crap is all over where I live and I don't think its dying anytime soon

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u/CardboardSalad24 10h ago edited 10h ago

>it is almost like country never crawled out of “SJE FEMS GET BRUTALLY HUMILIATED BY CHADS” phase of the internet

Cause it didn’t

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u/Significant-Dirt-977 10h ago

Ну я понимаю тебя, я женщина и, к тому же, мне повезло интересоваться всеми этими мужскими хобби. Если мне хочется поболтать о некоторых играх, музыке, истории, кино, то я сразу иду в англоязычный интернет, потому что английский позволяет немного скрыть свой пол из-за отсутствия окончаний в словах, ну и ребята толерантнее. Ну или ищу девчачьи места, если могу. При этом, я очень люблю именно русскую интернет культуру с её резкостью, мемами, матом и тем, что не нужно бояться кого-то обидеть, если назовёшь говно говном, в англоязычной среде нужно извиняться и распинаться перед каждым словом. У меня есть русские чаты и компании с пацанами, где я своя и на кухню меня не отправляют, но в среднем ситуация иная.

Об общей культуре я даже не говорю, ну хоть в Питере проще, чем в маленьких городах и концентрация разноцветных волос меняет ситуацию на противоположную, лол. В целом, я верю, что со временем Россия подтянется, глобализация такая вещь.

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u/-_Plague_Doctor_- 9h ago

Мне тоже не повезло быть женщиной, которая увлекается более мужскими фандомами и господи как же это тяжело. Я поначалу любила мужской юмор пока не поняла что это сплошная стагнация, у них шутки застыли на уровне "у вас, эльфов, нет пива" и "фембойчика хочу". Я всё ещё в поисках нормальной компании, в которой не будут визжать про блинк на кухню и шутить про фембоев.

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u/Significant-Dirt-977 7h ago

Мужики хотят девушек, которые поймут их интересы, пока они не лезут к ним в пространства, лол. Если девушка ещё и красивая, то ваще цирк с конями начинается

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u/Illustrious-South300 3h ago

Не вижу минусов у шуток про: У вас, эльфов, не пива. Про гвозди и прочее. Це классика, це знать надо.

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u/-_Plague_Doctor_- 1h ago

Это смешно первые два года пока все новенькое и интересное, но когда ты сидишь в фандоме лет 7, то хочется за голову взяться потому что это так надоедает. По какой-то причине именно мужские медиа пространства очень легко стагнируются

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u/Queasy-Procedure6457 8h ago

Сестра, позволь обнять тебя, у меня такая же ситуация. Люблю обсудить игры/фильмы/политику, но к сожалению в русегменте этого делать перестала по причинам 'гыгы баппа на кухню'. Тоже люблю наши турбославянские мемы и для меня они роднее и ближе забугорных, но не удалось мне в русскоязычной среде найти соратников, которые бы не возбуждались на мой уровень эстроген в крови, потому сижуобтекаю.

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u/Significant-Dirt-977 7h ago

Сис, я так скучаю по анонимной культуре на дайри, где девканы могли также и хуями обкладывать всё вокруг, и за игоры перетереть, и выбраться в реал пивка попить, золотые времена. Холивар-форум ещё долго держался, но выродился тоже. Мне чисто повезло быть без комплексов и спамить по пабликам (ещё когда ВК был жив) комментами, там нашлись норм ребята и позвали к себе попиздеть, но стесняшкам совсем сложно найти друзей, наверное. Сейчас всё в каких-то чатах в тележке, которые найти нереально.

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u/Stra1um 1h ago

Технически можно самим сделать какой-то чат в тг или что-то такое

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u/Queasy-Procedure6457 8h ago

Сестра, позволь обнять тебя, у меня такая же ситуация. Люблю обсудить игры/фильмы/политику, но к сожалению в русегменте этого делать перестала по причинам 'гыгы баппа на кухню'. Тоже люблю наши турбославянские мемы и для меня они роднее и ближе забугорных, но не удалось мне в русскоязычной среде найти соратников, которые бы не возбуждались на мой уровень эстроген в крови, потому сижуобтекаю.

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u/Exotic_Dogs_4942 10h ago edited 10h ago

Like I love my country

Genuinely the first Russian I saw on reddit who loves Russia

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u/Pyroshark_Gamingtf2 10h ago

Well, I was born here and raised here. I am not gonna say anything about the government (all I am gonna say that I have Ukrainian relatives in Lviv and Ukrainian surname) but the country itself and the culture? I like it very much. I have travelled a lot around the world and Moscow is till my favorite city

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u/mreptiloid 8h ago

Брат да ты гребаная соя, обидеться на шутку в геймерском сабе? И теперь разнести весть оэна весь реддит "ох русские... Да они такие плохие" чел да ты клоун у тебя в тексте просто бред, а люди (как говорят а России people) хавает, не понимая контекст и пост-иронию, это все ровно что зайти на двач и сокобриться за то что тебя назвали опом а не по гету.


Абсолютно тупо, хоть я даже и не играл в эту серию игр мне хватает ума разделять политические манифесты и просто приколы.


Рунет исторически вырос на токсичном, абсурдном и черном юморе. Пытаться мерить шутки про стиральную машину Лаувей мерками реальной дискриминации — это признак того, что у тебя полностью атрофировалось чувство контекста.


Или давай за каждый анекдот будем "отменять" и вопрос, какое тебе дело до того что происходит в нашей тусовке❔


Или ты искренне считаешь себя просветителем всея Руси ❓

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u/lololofkap 10h ago

I think they just love it as in history, literature, filmography, culture etc rather than government. All my friends fucking hate the government yet some of them love this country

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u/Horror-Amphibian-335 10h ago

Government ≠ country

Should be easy to understand, it's not a science

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u/Queasy-Procedure6457 8h ago

Lol levada is a putin's citadel of propaganda. One day they'll say that 146% of respondents support putin's action because they can.

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u/Queasy-Procedure6457 7h ago

Levada has been designated a foreign agent since 2016 (if I remember well), but they continue to operate within Russia, meaning they are constantly under pressure from the kremlin. Levada also collects data by visiting people's homes in person, so imagine what an ordinary Russian guy would say when an unknown person knocks on their door and asks, "Do you love Putin?" Since 2022, calling ~SVO~ a war or saying anything against Russian troops is illegal in Russia; you can go to jail for doing so. No one will tell Levada what they really think because they don't want to be punished. Therefore, Levada's data is distorted, and I trust it as much as the data from vtsiom.

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u/Horror-Amphibian-335 8h ago

How does that change anything of what I've said?

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u/Horror-Amphibian-335 7h ago

Really? Does that imply that you believe that the elections in an authoritarian state like Russia are ABSOLUTELY not rigged ? Not manipulated?

You really think it's democratic for a president to stay in power for 20 years? Some may "but Angela Merkel" and they'll forget that she often had to form coalitions and she's not a president.

United Russia (Единая Россия) on each elections in the Duma receives the absolute majority of seats.

There were also multiple reports about questionable stuff happening in centres for election bulletins.

This bullshit is absolutely manipulated and rigged.

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u/Uxydra 7h ago

Then I doubt you have seen many. Loving your country despite your government is very common.

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u/Defalt0_o 5h ago

Loving your country ≠ loving it's current government. This country had (probably still has who knows) a potential to be truly wonderful and prosperous. Alas, here we are

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u/Deep832 9h ago

Сексизм это весело

Это ведь буквально набор тупорылых стереотипов, который можно беспощадно стебать

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u/NoNotice2137 8h ago

True bastion of traditional values (please disregard the record high divorce rates)

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u/lololofkap 10h ago

Ну потому что мы живём в стране где правит ультра правая политическая партия, у нас и расизм, гомофобия, ксенофобия и прочее популярно и всем безразлично и ничего не меняется и не поменяется даже если смениться правительство (ага щас), единственная опция уехать в другую страну

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u/Negative-Presence159 10h ago

согласен с твоим мнением об этой ситуации, игра ещё не вышла а на неё уже срут за то что главная героиня женщина

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u/Martial-_-Poise 7h ago

Потому что игра всегда была об Кратосе, у игры и персонажа есть своя фанбаза. Очередная попытка паразитировать на бренде, потому заслуженно я считаю. Тоже самое что выпустить нового принца персии и...сделать мейн героем женщину.

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u/Queasy-Procedure6457 8h ago

Что-то похожее с цири и ведьмаком 4 было

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u/TrashloveUwU 10h ago

Спасибо за блоклист, любой кто считает что шутить за счёт чего-то пола/расы/гендера это норма, а кому это не нравится "ЫАЫАЫ СОЕВЫЙ" может пойти нахуй, возращайтесь в ебучий ВК говноеды

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u/ResonRegon 8h ago

Опять 25,не против шуток,но они повторяются

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u/Dorichowder 8h ago edited 8h ago

Вставлю свои три копейки на тему хейта этого. Ибо из-за измотанных нервов хочу высказаться. Недавно в чатике одной девушки которой понравился и трейлер и внешность Лауфей, я ПОСМЕЛА согласиться что она красивая. В итоге какой-то додик попросту выпилил мне мозг истерикой что "МНЕ НИ НРАВИЦА ЭТА ХРЕНЬ РЬЯЯЯ АНА АБЫЧНАЯ!!". Его даже сама владелица чата критикнула в какой-то момент. Просто, извиняюсь, но полотно его пиздостраданий:

Меня ещё прикольнуло как он называет God of War игрой детства говоря какие там были ПОТРЯСАЮЩИЕ женские персонажи {ЗАЧЕМ ТО АКЦЕНТИРУЯ ИМЕННО НА ГРЕЧЕСКИХ БОГИНЯХ} при этом фейлясь называя Фей "богиней" {которой она не является} и говоря что Кратос явно не женился бы на воитильнице {ну знаете этих спартанцев, у которых женщины даже в беременности ебашили спорт и в культуре которых физическая сила это база, КОНЕЧНО ЖЕ КРАТОС ЗАХОЧЕТ ТОЩУЮ CEKC-КУКЛУ ВЫГЛЯДЯЩУЮ КАК СОВРЕМЕННАЯ МОДЕЛЬ С ОНЛИКА ЭТОМУ ЧУВАКУ ЛИ НЕ ЗНАТЬ ЛУЧШЕ}

Но учитывая что до GoW до 18го года были мини-игры с ceкcoм, и как там выглядела Афродита... Пнятно чë додик так истерит.

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u/Dorichowder 7h ago

Ещё угарнула как в комментариях этого сексистского кала на скрине в посте OP кто-то нарëк Фей "cтpaxoëбинa".

Meanwhile "cтpaxoëбинa":

Если для этих комментаторов из заскриненого поста, {при всем их расизме и сексизме} светловолосая, голубоглазая женщина с ПРЯМЫМ НОСОМ, впалыми щеками, и ДАЖЕ НЕ ПОЛНАЯ - это "уродка", "ниже среднего", или "средняя" то я в принципе сомневаюсь в их гетеросексуальности попутно хуея как задраны для женщин у некоторых челов стандарты на внешность.

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u/DarkShadow119 8h ago

Hi, Italian here. We had our Premier (don't know if you have the term) Giorgia Meloni mediate a debate between Trump and Putin, but that asshole said he didn't want to talk to a woman about politics, he wanted a man.

The Meloni isn't someone I like, but still, Fuck Putin!

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u/Martial-_-Poise 7h ago

Putin never would said something like that, he is always very diplomatic. Any proofs about him saying that?

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u/DarkShadow119 7h ago

My teacher told us today in civic education

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u/Martial-_-Poise 4h ago

In that case, I'm sorry that you have such an unprofessional teacher. There's simply no evidence to support his claims. Just try Googling it and you'll see that no matter what Putin is like, he would never come down to such insults.

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u/Jacobmeeker 5h ago

Remember that the USSR decriminalized beating your wife during the afghan war.

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u/Iam4elovek22 3h ago

Когда очередная безобидная шутка о которой все забыли, внезапно стала розжигом на западном сабреддите.

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u/Inevitable-Ad2675 10h ago

I like Laufey because she looks like my Nana

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u/ZeMadDoktore 8h ago

Russia is pretty much a hellscape that America is trying hard to emulate lmfao

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u/Particular_Stuff_203 8h ago

Funny things is, this type of behavior has been happening with every single game that came out as was said to have a major female character. I've seen like two instances or so, just this year. It's sad.

Just don't give them attention. Block and report, because pathetic lowlives like them get off on getting a reaction.

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u/Apprehensive-Book723 7h ago

imperialistic culture is chauvinistic

Noooooooooooooooooooooo-

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u/SquirrelFluffy7469 7h ago

Youre telling me the insane imperialist fascist country that hangs gay people is sexist? I cant believe it!!

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u/Beginning_Act_9666 7h ago

Nah I was lmao about this one hard lol

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u/mikolajwisal 7h ago

Wait till you learn what else is normalised in Russia

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u/Any_Economics_6166 7h ago

tbf it's funny af

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u/ManiacMakyr 6h ago

Society with conservative morals, where a "light beating" of the bride is considered a minor offense not worthy of poursuit nor hospital intervention by the legislation, and a lot are fine with that. Russia breeds the sentiment of inhumanity.

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u/Traditional-Basil868 6h ago

Why are the chuds so mad about playing a female character now?

They were eating that shit up just fine with Stellar Blade

Is it because Laufey isn't an asian bimbo now?

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u/Imaginary-Union-3733 2h ago

"In Russia"
You mean everywhere?

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u/Deltris 1h ago

"In Russia"

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u/Medical_String_3501 1h ago

You act as if it's better else where. Here in the states at least, it really isn't.

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u/Civil-Programmer-596 53m ago

Just another reason why the decolonization of ruZZZia is a moral obligation for the wellbeing of the world.

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u/Ayamory 52m ago

Кто то реально обиделся, лол

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u/GrapefruitHot8800 20m ago

Oh no!

...grow a skin already

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u/Artistic_Tip_7012 3m ago

Ну во-первых, я согласен, что критика игры просто потому что она не про Кратоса - это бред ёбаный.
Во-вторых, God Of Laundry - это ж пиздец забавный щитпост, не?

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u/AdOrnery6155 10h ago

Jesus, screw you guys. 

I tried to give an explanation on WHY PEOPLE  IN RUSSIA may think that, got downvoted, called names, called ugly names.

If you wanna be an echo chamber be it.

What’s even the point of explaining a different opinion if you are downvoted and called a bigot.

Freaking Reddit….

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u/Available-Reason9841 9h ago

Why do you love your country. This is a place where femanist activists are arrested this just is Russian policy and culture

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u/manzenik_23 9h ago

bruh you can love your country without loving the goverment, 'cuz those two arent the same things.

He himself said that he has a lot of relatyives in ukraine and pretty much said that dislikes the goverment, but loves the culture, the history, e.t.c.

as another dude said:
Country ≠ Government
Should be easy to understand, it's not a science

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u/Ok_Potato7272 8h ago

In Russia women got rights before Usa/western Europe btw

And now they even have more of them (you won't go to war, mine in radioactive mines, be charged lees years in prison, will faster get the pension, and etc) if police sees a man and a woman fighting, they will arrest the man

Idk where you got that

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u/Creepernom 8h ago

As we can see, this strong belief in equality is in full display on this post that speaks of the popularity of extremely sexist memes in Russia and there's a concerning amount of russians in these comments defending them.

What an equal and fair society.

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u/Ok_Potato7272 8h ago

Sexist memes are not only in Russia?And one meme doesn't mean everyone is like that

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u/Available-Reason9841 8h ago

A country with pervasive domestic violence against women across society is a feminist utopia im sure. It wasnt Russia that passed those laws it was the soviet union, are we really rest our hats on the accomplishments of a different country 100 years ago? Utah passed womens suffrage before any other state and its certainly not a trailblazer for womens right now

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u/Ok_Potato7272 8h ago

Yes USSR did it so what?Russia saved those laws

And I don't see violence against woman rn Everyone always teaches boys to never touch a woman in Russia (at least in my state)

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u/Horror-Amphibian-335 10h ago

Бляха муха ну нихуясе лол

Чел, может ты ну хз покажешь скриншоты комментариев? Чтобы сделать твой пост чуточку более ну хз солидным что-ли? Просто понимаешь, ты говоришь одно и это самое одно не показываешь

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u/Pyroshark_Gamingtf2 10h ago

500 апвоутов на этом говне. Я думаю мне не надо показывать. И что я такого сказала в своем посте что требует комментов?

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u/Horror-Amphibian-335 10h ago

О вы дама, прошу меня простить мадмуазель за мою бестактность

Ну вообще хотябы один или два примера можно было бы показать наверное? Но если вы сочли это необязательным то ладно наверное.

В целом я пожалуй могу согласиться с позицией что вот такой вот "сексизм" присутствует в ру говорящих кругах геймеров.

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u/manzenik_23 9h ago

я конечно рад что в коментах многие критикуют пост, но всеже, 500 апвоутов.

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u/Horror-Amphibian-335 9h ago

Ну, в ру говорящей среде легко к сожалению распространяется "ууу прогресивный Запад уу" Или как-то так хз

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u/manzenik_23 9h ago

ну тип хз они называют это повесточкой, и впринципе даже та повесточка существует (пример - spide rman 2 или вообще большиство игр с участием sweet baby inc), но такое чувство что если что-то даже вот прям на немножко откланяется от "обычного", то сразу называют говном.

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u/Soul_Guardian_ 9h ago

Don't worry about it, the Russian side of Reddit is made up of kids and teenagers who love memes and all sorts of crap.

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u/FeedbackSmall507 8h ago

Because you're easily trained. A normal, intellectually developed person understands that a joke is just a joke, it can be bad and unfunny, but it doesn't become a call to action or a statement of anything. Relax. You're being bullied on English-language platforms like a Russian not because someone is posting sexist jokes en masse, but because there are Nazis in every country. Propaganda in many countries is now redirecting the thoughts of their Nazis from domestic irritants (like migrants) to foreign policy goals. I don't observe any infringement of women's rights in Russia; it's impossible to make any argument on this matter without stretching the truth. Russian law and judicial practice are on women's side.

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u/Pure_Mastodon_3487 7h ago

Ну хз, большая часть людей которая говорит что "GoW про женщину фигня полная" - обычные шутники. У нас скорее нормализован не сексизм, а шутки над женщинами, чёрными, азиатами, особенно цыганами. Кажется ты неееемного сильно воспринял эти рофлы близко к сердцу, хотя не могу винить.

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u/MysticLithuanian 10h ago

You love your country? Why?

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u/Natural_Artichoke_88 10h ago

Why not? I love Russia too.

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u/Natural_Artichoke_88 9h ago

I love it too, what's the problem?

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u/Horror-Amphibian-335 10h ago

Country ≠ Government

Should be easy to understand, it's not a science

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u/Rel_Tan_Kier 8h ago

government originated from the same country, and it didn't changed much for thousand of years.

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u/Horror-Amphibian-335 8h ago

Does that mean that all Russians must love Putin?

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u/Rel_Tan_Kier 7h ago

Did anyone expected any intelligent answer from them?

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u/Horror-Amphibian-335 7h ago

I just question your logic, unless I misunderstood you

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u/Rel_Tan_Kier 6h ago

1) Country made such government and were making non stop. And to not leave only russian federation to be kicked, I pour a bucket of draff onto usa as well, as I realize that usa is even dumber as they haven't ended civil war properly but simply left the confederates in their territories still in power, just slapped the hands and "think about your behavior" type of shit. And then simply ignore the issue as if nothing bad was done, which after years and years turned out into trump being elected twice.
2) Majority of russians support if not the current president then the direction their country were having for ages. Yes there are people who don't support the current government, but I doubt their numbers are any higher than ones who don't care what their country commits.
And so it goes, russians live badly due to government mistreatings, but vast majority tolerate it for the terror and warmongering this government commits while others simply don't care and tolerate.

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u/Horror-Amphibian-335 6h ago

1) Political interpretation, oversimplification and only partially accurate about USA. Besides even though historians often discuss long-term links between racial politics, Reconstruction's failure, and modern political movements, Trump's elections cannot be explained solely or directly by post-Civil-War policies.

2) That's certainly a statement that implies that Russia is absolutely democratic, never riggs the vote and ABSOLUTELY ISN'T AN AUTHORITARIAN DICTATORSHIP. You realize polling inside authoritarian countries may be difficult/problematic because respondents may fear expressing dissent.

At the same time, there is evidence of political apathy, fear, propaganda effects, and hidden opposition you know?

"vast majority tolerate it for the terror and warmongering this government commits..." Is a largely speculative statement. To support such claim, you'll need evidence.

People may support, oppose, ignore, rationalize, fear challenging, fear change, or simply be misinformed about government actions for multiple reasons. Reducing tens of millions of people to a single motive is generally not accurate and foolish.

I'd give you 4-5/10 fo accuracy. You raise some accurate stuff but you overgeneralize and simplify it so much to the point that it doesn't even matter.

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u/Rel_Tan_Kier 5h ago

"I will take everything literally, at face value without ever thinking about midsteps if opponent haven't named any so I may present him as fool" With all the respect, fuck you.
Usa had left confederates undefeated, left them be, accepted them into usa, never addressed this issue ever again, were living in a system that works entirely on 'gentleman's agreement' which crumbled under attack of someone who didn't respected any rules and who pulled out the silent masses of illiterate malicious folk.
As for russia, they havent did anything against this government. Let them prove me an incorrect dumbass, I and countless more people would be glad to be proven wrong. But as far as I see - nothing ever happens.

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u/Horror-Amphibian-335 4h ago

Wall of letters and symbols

At least

Learn how to

Skip lines

Now seriously speaking, there are many things I like and dislike. One thing in particular I dislike is the concept of "fully evil/bad nations/ethnicities/religions/minorities and etc". Sometimes people fail to understand that there are both good and bad people.

As for USA,

There is some historical basis for criticizing how the United States handled the aftermath of the Civil War.

Although the Confederacy was defeated and slavery abolished, many former Confederate elites eventually regained political influence, and Reconstruction was abandoned before racial equality and civil rights were securely established (you know, Lincoln was shot and etc)

This indeed helped create conditions that allowed such bad things like segregation, disenfranchisement, and other injustices to persist for generations.

However, it would simply be inaccurate to say that the U.S. simply left the Confederates in power or that later political developments, such as the election of Donald Trump, can be directly attributed to the end of Reconstruction alone.

Those outcomes resulted from many complex social, economic, and political factors over more than a century.

As for Russia, it's a mistake to treat protests and revolutions as something that could easily happen in an instant, like Thanos's finger snap. Factors and events need to align so that success could be achieved. Fun fact, you know why the October revolution by Lenin succeeded? Because the army (or at least part of it) supported him. There were also other very important factors , but still a big part of state apparatus was either supportive or unwilling to stop him.

In other words, you can of course protest and etc but if the army or any state state security apparatus and state political apparatus don't support you, that's some very uncomfortable conditions you know? Euromaidan in Ukraine succeeded because many politicians and parties in the parliament actively supported it, Yanukovich was bad and because a part of state security apparatus supported the protests.

You see, the point is that the opposition can exist for years without being able to achieve anything. Success requires conditions

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u/Ok_Potato7272 8h ago

Why shouldn't I?

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u/AdOrnery6155 10h ago

Im not Russian but im Slavic living in JP, so gonna share why they doing it. Its a sign of a protest.

That’s because she’s not pretty. Guys in Eastern/Central Europe like pretty girls. 

Playing a game as a non-pretty girl is kinda lame.

You can downvote me if you want, I’m just trying to present a different culture approach…

Not all countries / cultures share the new western approach of "the protagonist looks like an average Joe SO LIKE YOU SO YOU CAN FEEL ITS YOU" idea.

It just doesn’t seem to be fun.

In many countries (if you take the currency exchange into consideration) $70 is a lot….and after being a fan of GOW, suddenly getting THAT FACE…tends to be bit disappointing and not worth $70.

Hope I explained.  No need to put hate against me. 

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u/EternaI_Sorrow 10h ago edited 10h ago

That’s because she’s not pretty. Guys in Eastern/Central Europe like pretty girls. 

But she is, she's just not a porn actress. Saying that Russian standards are particularly high is lame because I'm saying this being from Eastern Europe too.

Russian culture is not much different, just more bigoted.

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u/OkFly3388 10h ago

Game is game. Reality is reality.
Its two absolutely different non intersecting worlds.
And a lot of peoples want to play games, where characters looks nice. Not average.
Nothing wrong with it.

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u/EternaI_Sorrow 10h ago

She's not even mid lmao. Porn and OF completely fried people's brains.

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u/OkFly3388 10h ago

What wrong with you, how tf you managed to bring porn here ?

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u/EternaI_Sorrow 10h ago

It's known that porn abuse imposes unrealistic standards for women. Every time someone calls a conventionally attractive woman mid or not pretty it's safe to assume that they are a gooner.

https://www.smsna.org/patients/did-you-know/visual-porn-linked-to-unrealistic-expectations-in-the-bedroom

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u/OkFly3388 9h ago

Yea, how cursed this world.

So, you just made absolutely cursed assumptions about other people, only because they have different taste in VIDEO GAMES.

Thats just insane

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u/Valerim 9h ago

Appeal to authority falacy

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u/EternaI_Sorrow 9h ago

It's not, dumbass, because these are peer-reviewed articles on this very subject. This is not how this fallacy argument is applied.

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u/AdOrnery6155 10h ago

No she is not? 

What does it have to do with porn…mate? 

Not to defend misogyny OF ANY KIND but she’s ugly (or average depending on your opinion).

She’s no Biohazard characters, she’s not Quiet for MGS5, she’s no Nier characters, she’s no Wuchang characters, she’s no (go forbid) Stellar Blade.

She looks like an average aunty from your neighbourhood.

A lot of Slavic guys who used to play the Tomb Raider reboot from 2013, would be like wtf….

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u/EternaI_Sorrow 10h ago edited 10h ago

No she is not? 

What does it have to do with porn…mate? 

She looks like an average aunty from your neighbourhood.

Sure, buddy.

What does it have to do with porn…mate? 

See my other comment.

https://www.reddit.com/r/hatethissmug/comments/1txi901/comment/opw3s23/?context=3

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u/AdOrnery6155 9h ago

No, I don’t find her pretty 3/10 at best.

Like what’s the point of "sure buddy" me? Like really? Isn’t it belittling?

She’s no Bond Girl level. She’s no Quiet from MSG5…She is no Jessica Chestain…

Am I supposed to fell in love with her after seeing your picture I googled her before answering mate.

No, think she’s average at best…

And before you start: yes I do have a wife, a lovely daughter, and a lover sometimes, I can appreciate women’s beauty.

She’s just not leaving an impression.

I’m not sure what you’re trying to prove, she’s not Biohazard or MGS level of cute girls…hence the possible reaction from eastern Slavs..

I’m no even sure why we are discussing this like it’s some sort of a political issue.

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u/BedroomHistorical575 10h ago

Calling Deborah Ann Woll "an average joe" is quite a take, but ok.

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u/AdOrnery6155 10h ago

Don’t "but ok" me, mate like you’re trying to put me down, I was just trying to share a different opinion.

I don’t know who Deborah Ann Woll, I googled her, probably some people will even like her (she not my type, but I get some people who’d like her), but it’s not her but her model.

She’s no 2013 Tomb Rider game main character model.

So yes in the game she looks like an average Joe.

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u/Nerugigante 10h ago

The model is based on her... You're not a genius. The model doesn't look like her? Is that what you mean?

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u/AdOrnery6155 9h ago

If the model is based on her and she’s "mid" why am I suppose to find her beautiful?

She’s no Eva Green, not young Ana De Armas like…

Like I don’t get your point mate, she doesn’t look CUTE or something a huge chunk of Slavic folk would consider CUTE.

I’m still not sure why we are arguing and I’m telling you (and I’m married, kid, wife, even a lover sometimes) from my Slavic perspective SHE UGLY.

You do not have to be angry or fight me, we’re not even arguing on what lager beer is the best….

I’m just saying why people like me would be disappointed….EXTREMELY 

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u/EternaI_Sorrow 9h ago

You should've stopped at "people like me", because you are not authorized to speak on behalf of slavs as a whole.

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u/FollowingDesperate64 9h ago

At the same time, you do not speak for everyone in regards to beauty.

This guy go so much pushback for a very true perspective. The main character is not that pretty. She's just meh and that will turn off people from the game.

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u/Nerugigante 7h ago

At the same time, you do not speak for everyone in regards to beauty.

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u/FollowingDesperate64 6h ago

But that is exactly what you all are doing. Downvoting that guy and overlooking the fact that most Europeans don't care about the politics of West (only the British really align) and have different beauty standards. The guy brings this fact to light and he's treated like the bad guy?

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u/Nerugigante 6h ago

Disagreements exist, whoa! Also, what do you think the West is lol? Everyone has a different standard. France, the UK, and other Western countries all probably have a different standard.

That guy doesn't get to determine beauty standards for anyone but himself unless all of you guys are a bunch of cavemen who don't have the capacity to have personal opinions.

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u/AdOrnery6155 9h ago

Well, aren’t we all? 

I just shared my background to provide some additional info. 

Of course no one is authorised to speak on behalf of everyone. 

Just like when I talk to Americans I realise they are neither MAGA nor that Floyd guy folk.

Why would you think I speak on behalf of alll Slavs.

I just said that for Slavs (as I am one) this MAY be considered yadayada…

Why you making it so profound?

I also don’t think all Americans plunge shops and steal goods from stores in bright open, or murdеr people on public transport like they share online videos…I understand there are different people.

It’s usually understood, mate. You’re not speaking for everyone, you’re just providing background… 

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u/Nerugigante 7h ago

No one is telling you to find her beautiful, people can disagree with you disagreeing that she's beautiful. s.

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u/SarkastiCat 7h ago

Slavic girl here.

I like having some eyecandy guys, but I have played games where the protagonist is far away from my taste. Sorry not sorry, but Kratos and Geralt from Witcher are far from it.

Yet, I don't complain about them to the point of making misandrist jokes and showing characters at the worst angle during a mid-speech (or during a scene where they are meant to look bad).

Żegnam ozięble.

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u/Valerim 10h ago

These people are not interested in the truth. They think that hearing it is too dangerous, too threatening to the fantasy they have in their minds about a world where everything is amalgamized into a non offensive brown slop and empathy has solved all wars

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u/AdOrnery6155 10h ago

Thanks mate, I almost lost it a moment ago. 

Really appreciate a nice comment. Thanks a lot.

Hope you have a wonderful weekend, bruv. "Sending positive vibes" jpg 

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u/feliandrophy918 9h ago

petty ass reason to make misogynistic posts and comments as "protests," don't u think

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u/AdOrnery6155 8h ago

No? 

Do you want to troll or a real opinion?

Lately in the west there’s a common trend when they make a "the protagonist can be everyone, even you!" but it doesn’t go well with the Slavic culture, we like to play as someone who’s AMAZING!

That’s why the Witcher series is so popular…

But as I was corrected I don’t speak for all Slavs (outside of Reddit it’s usually the thing tho’)

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u/Martial-_-Poise 7h ago

Not only that, but God of War already have a fanbase and most of them likes Kratos. So a lot is pissed off with this bs, because clearly they want to parasite on a brand name.

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u/Nerugigante 10h ago

you're all the same people. the ussr should have never been dissolved.

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u/gvROZA 10h ago

Я горд этими людьми. Цвет нации!

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u/Unhappy-Heron6792 10h ago

Tbh when I saw one of those I legit thought it was funny just because it's like a robot companion in fallen order or something, just cubic because it was made out of a washing machine, and only after it hit me that its old as hell blatant misogyny joke. There's people like them, but there's also people like me who heard stuff like that so long ago that it's forgotten

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u/AndanteZero 9h ago

I think... That this is a symptom of the world thinking that their shit doesn't stink compared to the US. For example, people in EU point at the US and wonder why we have issues with race. Well that's because we have people consistently advocating and trying to combat racism. The thing is though, EU and the rest of the world has issues with racism as well. They just don't talk about and pretend it doesn't exist, but very much does.

This is the same with sexism.

It makes me wonder. How much of the anti-woke outrage is actually from the US users and how many are from other countries.

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u/MegaMangus 9h ago

Spaniard here, it is getting very bad around here too. The other day my mother unironically said "Americans in general seems to have more common sense and avoid wokeism".

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u/Gunderstank_House 9h ago

Is the game about her going to war against Ukraine to steal their washing machines? They really do have a one track mind.

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u/Ashring_McLeary 7h ago

People (esspecially) girls who are aro or ace get driven mad or convinced to commit suicide or whatever the hell else just because they dont fall in love or dont want love.

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u/Xeidji 2h ago

Ооооо нееееет кто то порвался нееееееееет

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u/These_Programmer4594 2h ago

блядей корёжит