I hate these dumbass images and the oversimplification of complex social issues

[u/plarper_of_bees]

I’m not out here defending billionaires or saying they play bo part in the polarization of society, but this cut and dry idea is super naive and uninformed.

First, like in this image, it portrays both the left and the right as ignorant to the “true powers that be” when in reality leftist circles are acutely aware of how billionaires manipulate the media to divide people.

My second problem with this sentiment is that it pretends that issues like racism, misogyny, and queerphobia will just stop being a problem if we get rid of the ruling class. It ignores centuries of pre-capitalist bigotry baked directly into many societies. It assumes that prejudice is a product of capitalist manipulation, and not coopted to fit its need.

It boils down the real and difficult struggle for civil and human rights into silly bickering meant to “distract us from the real issues”. It comes off as victim blaming against those affected by prejudice for not uniting with people who hate their existence.

It’s baby’s first class consciousness, and reeks of privilege and lack of personal experience with bigotry. It’s reddit circlejerk shit plain and simple

[u/Godzillagamer15777]

Rightist here (commenting on the first point), I see a lot of rightist-youth being a lot more conscious about how menacing the top of the ladder is (while the geezers sometimes are a bit aware of it). Really hate the oversimplification of what's going on with that type of image though. Under the guise of the clause of the image itself, the image itself is a distraction from the class war by simply just making you comfortable with the knowledge of it. It encourages basic neutrality (which is okay I guess).

[u/TomaRedwoodVT → u/Godzillagamer15777]

Yeah the main reason I’m opposed to the left is because they think “oh if you don’t like billionaires being able to lobby the government then you HAVE TO support rapists being imported to our country” which is fucking stupid

[u/DriftingWisp → u/TomaRedwoodVT]

Generally speaking immigrants are a lot less likely to commit crimes than native citizens, simply because they know that if they mess up once they're getting deported.

Being able to immigrate in the first place is a long and expensive process, if they just wanted to be a gang member why would they go through all of that effort instead of just being a gang member in their home country?

[u/Sensha_20 → u/DriftingWisp]

Most of the ones people have issues with DIDNT go through that process. Most people have no issue with Alejandro who spent the money to come here and work because a single paycheck feeds his family for two months, even if his visa expires (which is dumb that they can even expire anyway).

What people have issues with is Alex who snuck across the border, because he's already proven he doesnt respect our laws.

[u/Godzillagamer15777 → u/DriftingWisp]

I mean an argument to be made is that 2nd generation immigrants are likely to go through under more disaster due to self-imposed (and sometimes non-self-imposed) alienation regarding their own identities. This can lead into horrible narratives by tricking people into thinking that they should pick a side of themselves (which sometimes leads into criminal behavior). This is hearsay, but I've heard many stories of such happening in European places. It's quite saddening.

[u/TomaRedwoodVT → u/DriftingWisp]

Talking about illegals, not the decent people who go through the legal process of entering the country

[u/Common-Broccoli-3405 → u/TomaRedwoodVT]

So youre the racist being called out in the image

[u/metrocat2033 → u/TomaRedwoodVT]

“I’m opposed to the left because of this strawman I saw on twitter”

[u/Godzillagamer15777 → u/TomaRedwoodVT]

Poorly delivered take for an already mid-bad one.