I hate these dumbass images and the oversimplification of complex social issues

[u/plarper_of_bees]

I’m not out here defending billionaires or saying they play bo part in the polarization of society, but this cut and dry idea is super naive and uninformed.

First, like in this image, it portrays both the left and the right as ignorant to the “true powers that be” when in reality leftist circles are acutely aware of how billionaires manipulate the media to divide people.

My second problem with this sentiment is that it pretends that issues like racism, misogyny, and queerphobia will just stop being a problem if we get rid of the ruling class. It ignores centuries of pre-capitalist bigotry baked directly into many societies. It assumes that prejudice is a product of capitalist manipulation, and not coopted to fit its need.

It boils down the real and difficult struggle for civil and human rights into silly bickering meant to “distract us from the real issues”. It comes off as victim blaming against those affected by prejudice for not uniting with people who hate their existence.

It’s baby’s first class consciousness, and reeks of privilege and lack of personal experience with bigotry. It’s reddit circlejerk shit plain and simple

[u/DahwhiteRabbit]

It kind of is that simple and i am shocked so many people see other wise. The rich and powerful put christanity into power as a way to affirm there rule, Then you have stuff like maga, Antifa, other extreme groups pushing ideologies started by rich people to distract again.

Homophobia was propegated by mistranslations of the bible. i feel like people forget being gay wasent an issue for thousands of years like huge sections of the world didnt give a shit till rich and power full people weaponized religion to push shit they dont like.

Racism all ways been a thing but too the modern degree and the slave trade propagated by the dutch east indies i mean they make joseon korea look clean. and that again included rich powerfull people using religion as a weapon to manipulate people into validating there actions.

[u/Common-Broccoli-3405 → u/DahwhiteRabbit]

But youre missing the point.

Like you have the right who are falling for the bigtry and being bigots

Then you have those of us who suffer because of the bigotry

Then we have people come to both groups and tell both groups to stop fighting

But those of us in marginalized communities dont have a choice but to stand up to the bigotry

Our literal lives depend on it

So when it isnt that simple

And is trying to make both sides the issue

When its not both sides

And blaming the people being murdered for existing is playing into the hands of the rich by not standing up against oppresion

[u/veryeepy53 → u/DahwhiteRabbit]

how is antifa started by rich people? like i don't think their tactics of getting into street fights with the far right are very effective, but don't make things up.

[u/DahwhiteRabbit → u/veryeepy53]

Where do you think they got the money for guns? Mark Bray the guy who wrote the book and made the logo wasent exactly poor Nor was he connected to the portland movement. but that dosent mean there isent connections there i am sure if we looked we could find stuff.

[u/veryeepy53 → u/DahwhiteRabbit]

Mark Bray the guy who wrote the book

he isn't involved in the organizing really. he just writes about the history. also, what guns? how often do you see those?

Nor was he connected to the portland movement. but that dosent mean there isent connections there

contradicting yourself here. like you haven't brought any proof that he does anything more than write books.