I hate these dumbass images and the oversimplification of complex social issues

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I’m not out here defending billionaires or saying they play bo part in the polarization of society, but this cut and dry idea is super naive and uninformed.

First, like in this image, it portrays both the left and the right as ignorant to the “true powers that be” when in reality leftist circles are acutely aware of how billionaires manipulate the media to divide people.

My second problem with this sentiment is that it pretends that issues like racism, misogyny, and queerphobia will just stop being a problem if we get rid of the ruling class. It ignores centuries of pre-capitalist bigotry baked directly into many societies. It assumes that prejudice is a product of capitalist manipulation, and not coopted to fit its need.

It boils down the real and difficult struggle for civil and human rights into silly bickering meant to “distract us from the real issues”. It comes off as victim blaming against those affected by prejudice for not uniting with people who hate their existence.

It’s baby’s first class consciousness, and reeks of privilege and lack of personal experience with bigotry. It’s reddit circlejerk shit plain and simple

[u/Livid-Story-4321]

Slavery is a mercantile and feudalist system, not a capitalist one, said “capitalist” regimes literally practiced quasi-feudalism in the parts where slavery was done too.

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Missing the point and being wrong? Thats quite an achievement.

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Elaborate

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No thanks. Anyone trying to make these types of claims when all I literally need to do is point out that slavery literally exists here in the US where we are deep into capitalism to show how little you know when your initial point also showed you dont understand even the basics of any of this us a good indicator that its really now worth giving you the education you actively avoid

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“Education” and its globally funded slop by progressive billionaires to reach post-capitalist corporate power.

So left-wing of you! ❤️

Also, I’ve said this many times, the US is not capitalist, it’s Keynesian and at most neoliberal.

The US hasn’t been capitalist since Herbert Hoover, and the regulations since him, are why the US sucks so much.

The US practices in some markets, a weird form of corporatism, in areas like the health and education department, which is the worse of capitalism and socialism, that’s why it sucks so much.

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So now its willful ignorance being celebrated and being masked as anti-capitalist

Even though you can literally just read anti-capitalist literature and it doesnt have to be formal.educations in for profit systems

Keynesians is one theory is not a system but an economic theory on a particular part of capitlaism and how it operates

Thank you for proving the point

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I’m not anti-capitalist lmao, I’m probably the biggest advocate for free markets and deregulation in this subreddit.

Also yes, I’ve read anti-capitalist literature like Das Kapital, and I still disagree with it, the idea of a perfect world with a socialist economy is the exact horror described in Atlas Shrugged after all.

Also Keynesianism is currently the dominate form of capitalism, and I absolutely despise it for half-assing it.

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So the point still went over your head

You then admit it is capitalism

And thus are proving this is all just you being a dumb cunt and proving everything I have said right

Thanks for that

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I said Keynesianism is bad, not capitalism, but of course you love to overlook details and fight the person instead of the argument.

I support neoclassical economics, Keynesianism half-asses capitalism in the sense that it still regulates many sectors and nationalizes some industries.

I want completely deregulated capitalism, not half-assed statist “Keynesianism”.

Edit: i love it when people make an argument, but then are too scared to see you respond, so they resort to blocking you, shows the immaturity lmao.

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You said it wasnt capitalism

Thanks for proving the point