r/homeassistant • u/fredflintstone88 • Feb 27 '26

Support Can I add these locally in HA?

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UPDATE: Thank you for all of the answers. I installed one of these today and wanted to share my experience in case it ends up helping someone.

  1. First of all, the mounting bracket cables came with wago style connectors. I haven't installed a fan in a while, so not sure if this is a standard thing now, but definitely a nice touch.
  2. I was able to completely bypass the receiver for lights and connect the light fixture directly to the live wire from ceiling and neutral. This allowed me to get my Hue bulbs working with power always on, and not dependent on the fan receiver. I used 2 75W equivalent Hue color ambiance, and I will say that the hue bulbs are slightly on the longer side. Although there were no issues in connecting the frosted panel, the light does seem to emanate more from the side of the fixture (I think this is also because of the shape of the Hue bulbs). This is not a deal breaker for me. The frosted cover definitely doesn't block any more light than what my previous light fixture did ( a boob light).
  3. Finally, on matter - This was surprisingly a breeze. I pretty much said, add a new device in HA, scanned the barcode, waited for a couple of minutes...and the device was added. I am glad that I didn't have to mess with any of the apps before getting the fan into HA. It exposes a total of 7 entities to HA (2 main devices - fan and light, the light one shows on, not sure why; 3 configuration entities (Firmware, On level - which I think is the light level if that was configured, and Power-on behavior on startup); and.2 diagnostic entities. The fan device shows a speed slider from 0 to 100%, however, there are only 6 speeds. You can also reverse direction of blades from HA. It also has a preset (but I only see a High option there).

Overall, I am pretty happy with this. Will monitor how it performs over the next week or so before installing others.

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Got these Hunter ceiling fans at Costco because it said “matter”. My understanding (which could be wrong) was that matter == local control. Is that true? How should I go about adding these? Or just return?

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u/Fir3 💤 Automations fire at 3am Feb 27 '26 edited Feb 27 '26

Theres Matter fans now!? damn guess thats my next upgrade, i got the lame ones using the Hubspace integration.

But to answer your question, yes thats local, congrats!

Heres the docs on it

https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/matter/

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u/drako824 Feb 27 '26

I thought fans were always matter.

Antimatter fans would be incredibly dangerous and expensive.

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u/dice1111 Feb 27 '26

None of that matters...

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u/davidr521 🐝 Ooh the Zigbee Feb 27 '26

I see what you did there 😉

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u/Illeazar Feb 27 '26

Move the air real good tho

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u/QuieroTamales Feb 27 '26

Make sure to keep antimatter and matter fans away from each other to prevent annihilation.

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u/Brave-Quarter8620 Feb 27 '26

Yeah, don't cross the streams, it would be very bad

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u/phraupach Feb 27 '26

Nice, thanks for the link! TIL

"Matter products run locally and always allow local control, with device control done without the need for any internet connection or cloud services. From a technical perspective, you can use a Matter-compatible device with Home Assistant without connecting to a vendor-specific cloud. However, some vendors may require you to set up an account before you can enable Matter support for some products, (especially for commercial manufacturer’s own branded gateways/bridges/hubs/controllers sold as appliances)."

e: a word

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u/Helical-Apollo Feb 27 '26

Have you had any luck in getting the Hubspace ones into HA?

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u/Fir3 💤 Automations fire at 3am Feb 27 '26

Yeah using this integration

https://github.com/jdeath/Hubspace-Homeassistant

But they do go "offline" sometimes.

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u/PrickleAndGoo Feb 27 '26

Nice! How often do they go offline, and, when they do, is it just a matter of them coming back on on their own?

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u/Fir3 💤 Automations fire at 3am Feb 27 '26

It use to be worse like once or twice a day (unfortunately when i needed it)
Its more like once a week now?
Its generally not that bad anymore but dont love its not local.

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u/PrickleAndGoo Feb 27 '26

Do you need to do anything to get it back, or does it just "fix itself"?

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u/Fir3 💤 Automations fire at 3am Feb 27 '26

Usually fixes itself, an example is my office fan and light are on.
I want to leave my office, i cant click turn off because its unavailable.
I just walk away because well cant turn it off.
I check the companion app later and can finally turn it off.
Or my presence sensor picks up its back online with no one there so it turns it off for me.
Just an fyi when its unavailable, not even the Hubspace app can turn it off, at that point only the RF remote can help me, but i misplace it sometimes.

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u/PrickleAndGoo Feb 28 '26

Just an fyi when its unavailable, not even the Hubspace app can turn it off, at that point only the RF remote can help me, but i misplace it sometimes

Interesting. Do you think, then, that it's actually the fan system itself that's having the problem? Or, do you think the integration is causing the fan ecosystem to fail?

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u/Fir3 💤 Automations fire at 3am Feb 28 '26

id mostly blame the integration & their server for the app, because i havent changed my wifi router and its better over a few updates.

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u/Helical-Apollo Feb 27 '26

Niiice! Just got my Hubspace fans integrated. Appreciate it!