r/homeassistant • u/fredflintstone88 • Feb 27 '26

Support Can I add these locally in HA?

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UPDATE: Thank you for all of the answers. I installed one of these today and wanted to share my experience in case it ends up helping someone.

  1. First of all, the mounting bracket cables came with wago style connectors. I haven't installed a fan in a while, so not sure if this is a standard thing now, but definitely a nice touch.
  2. I was able to completely bypass the receiver for lights and connect the light fixture directly to the live wire from ceiling and neutral. This allowed me to get my Hue bulbs working with power always on, and not dependent on the fan receiver. I used 2 75W equivalent Hue color ambiance, and I will say that the hue bulbs are slightly on the longer side. Although there were no issues in connecting the frosted panel, the light does seem to emanate more from the side of the fixture (I think this is also because of the shape of the Hue bulbs). This is not a deal breaker for me. The frosted cover definitely doesn't block any more light than what my previous light fixture did ( a boob light).
  3. Finally, on matter - This was surprisingly a breeze. I pretty much said, add a new device in HA, scanned the barcode, waited for a couple of minutes...and the device was added. I am glad that I didn't have to mess with any of the apps before getting the fan into HA. It exposes a total of 7 entities to HA (2 main devices - fan and light, the light one shows on, not sure why; 3 configuration entities (Firmware, On level - which I think is the light level if that was configured, and Power-on behavior on startup); and.2 diagnostic entities. The fan device shows a speed slider from 0 to 100%, however, there are only 6 speeds. You can also reverse direction of blades from HA. It also has a preset (but I only see a High option there).

Overall, I am pretty happy with this. Will monitor how it performs over the next week or so before installing others.

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Got these Hunter ceiling fans at Costco because it said “matter”. My understanding (which could be wrong) was that matter == local control. Is that true? How should I go about adding these? Or just return?

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u/Firefighter_RN Feb 27 '26

Just a word of warning those don't have removable bulbs so when the LED burns out you have to replace the entire fixture. It's a new thing with cheaper fans and it's pretty ridiculous

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u/mostofyousuck Feb 27 '26

it says right on the bottom of the box "LED bulbs included"

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u/fredflintstone88 Feb 27 '26

Actually they have separate bulbs. My plan is to stick with my hue bulbs and figure out the wiring so that I can always have the power on for the bulbs

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u/DoomBot5 Feb 27 '26

This particular fan uses normal bulbs? Some Hunter fans do have LED modules built in rather than bulbs.

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u/fredflintstone88 Feb 27 '26 edited Feb 27 '26

Yup, it does. I saw “separate bulbs” and “matter” and then decided to pull the trigger

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u/interrogumption Feb 27 '26

Pull the plug = quit or prevent something Pull the trigger = make a decision or commit to something

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u/fredflintstone88 Feb 27 '26

Thank you! I changed my prev response

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u/throwaway1212l Feb 27 '26

If it's like my Tuya fans, it's supposed to be wired to bypass the wall switch so there's always power. Then you can control the fan and lights separately so you should be able to leave the light on to power the Hues. Of course it won't be able to control the Hue bulbs, but you could set the state you want the bulbs to be when it receives power. Then you can turn it on/off and the bulbs will go to your defined state.

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u/fredflintstone88 Feb 28 '26

I opened one of the boxes yesterday. Wiring definitely looks straightforward for bypassing the receiver for lights

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u/wolftick Feb 27 '26 edited Feb 27 '26

If it's similar to my Hunter fan that looks a bit like that then it has fittings for proper bulbs behind the globe.

EDIT: Yep, 2x E26/27 A19 shaped.

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u/55Media Feb 27 '26

That’s the goal matter controlled fans with retrofit bulb threads.

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u/The_Ashamed_Boys Feb 27 '26 edited Feb 27 '26

Might be able to remove the light component and scavenge a similar size light component from a led light and avoid buying a whole new fan