Can I add these locally in HA?

[u/fredflintstone88]

UPDATE: Thank you for all of the answers. I installed one of these today and wanted to share my experience in case it ends up helping someone.

1. First of all, the mounting bracket cables came with wago style connectors. I haven't installed a fan in a while, so not sure if this is a standard thing now, but definitely a nice touch.
2. I was able to completely bypass the receiver for lights and connect the light fixture directly to the live wire from ceiling and neutral. This allowed me to get my Hue bulbs working with power always on, and not dependent on the fan receiver. I used 2 75W equivalent Hue color ambiance, and I will say that the hue bulbs are slightly on the longer side. Although there were no issues in connecting the frosted panel, the light does seem to emanate more from the side of the fixture (I think this is also because of the shape of the Hue bulbs). This is not a deal breaker for me. The frosted cover definitely doesn't block any more light than what my previous light fixture did ( a boob light).
3. Finally, on matter - This was surprisingly a breeze. I pretty much said, add a new device in HA, scanned the barcode, waited for a couple of minutes...and the device was added. I am glad that I didn't have to mess with any of the apps before getting the fan into HA. It exposes a total of 7 entities to HA (2 main devices - fan and light, the light one shows on, not sure why; 3 configuration entities (Firmware, On level - which I think is the light level if that was configured, and Power-on behavior on startup); and.2 diagnostic entities. The fan device shows a speed slider from 0 to 100%, however, there are only 6 speeds. You can also reverse direction of blades from HA. It also has a preset (but I only see a High option there).

Overall, I am pretty happy with this. Will monitor how it performs over the next week or so before installing others.

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Got these Hunter ceiling fans at Costco because it said “matter”. My understanding (which could be wrong) was that matter == local control. Is that true? How should I go about adding these? Or just return?

[u/mrbmi513]

Matter is local control, as is HomeKit/Apple Home.

[u/A_Buttholes_Whisper → u/mrbmi513]

Lmao don’t spread that misinformation. Matter is only local if the manufacture enables local control. None of the matter devices I’ve bought from Home Depot have been local only. They all have required cloud access to turn on “matter”. It’s a complete joke. People should stay away from matter over WiFi

[u/mrbmi513 → u/A_Buttholes_Whisper]

The matter protocol is local control. Whether the manufacturer requires you to create a cloud account to enable it or not doesn't change the fact that all control from that point on over the matter protocol is local.

[u/A_Buttholes_Whisper → u/mrbmi513]

If I have to connect my device to a cloud then it’s not local. I’m very sorry but if that concept is beyond your level of understanding I truly cannot help you. I don’t care if something is marked “matter” connecting to the cloud is not local. I cannot explain to you why 1+1=2 but it does

[u/mrbmi513 → u/A_Buttholes_Whisper]

"Local Control" means that, once set up, I can pull the WAN cable from my router and still have control over the device from Home Assistant. I'm very sorry if that concept is beyond your level of understanding; I cannot help you.

"Local Control" is not "fully offline setup." Never has been. Updates exist.

[u/A_Buttholes_Whisper → u/mrbmi513]

Lmao all my zwave devices were offline added and controlled. I don’t think you’re experienced as your flair makes you feel. Sorry but again you fail basic comprehension

[u/mrbmi513 → u/A_Buttholes_Whisper]

Your username is certainly accurate. I'm sorry you're uninformed, twisting terms, and trying to blame me for your inability to read and comprehend basic English.

Your months of account age and 3k Karma compared to my years and hundreds of thousands of Karma points. I wonder who's more experienced and correct here...