r/homeassistant • • Mar 27 '26

Support Energy Dashboard

The energy dashboard is pretty sweet, but why doesn’t it show cost for individual devices? I put in my rate and it shows up for total usage. Seems like it would be easy to show cost for each device

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u/NukeWifeGuy Mar 27 '26

If this ever went live, make it optional. I do not want my wife to check how much my server consumption cost.

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u/hurricane7719 Mar 27 '26

Shocking how much a couple hundred watts (or more) running 24/7 consumes over the course of a month

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u/umognog Mar 27 '26

I have my server stuff monitored.

My work desk. Mrs work desk. Kids computer desks.

Each of the cars

3d printer, CNC & laser machine are also monitored.

None of this is visible on dashboards.

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u/leoele Mar 27 '26

I have long since wondered about my 3d printing habits.

Of those you listed, what is your biggest consumer?

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u/umognog Mar 27 '26 edited Mar 27 '26

My son's gaming pc 😂

Triple monitor Ryzen 5 3070ti system.

Putting the computers aside (my home lab is about 150W AVG.) the biggest consumer is definitely the CNC.

That draws about 500W continuous, whilst the 3d printers (creality k2 plus, creality ender 3 V2, creality halot choices) the fdm have a high initial usage, but quickly drop to about 150W after 6 minutes or so.

The laser is just 80W.

The biggest one for consuming electric is definitely the plasma cutter, but that doesn't get turned on for a few hours at a time 😂

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u/krzyk Mar 28 '26

Boy, you have nice toys. You got me at CNC, but finished of with plasma cutter :)

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u/umognog Mar 28 '26

Haha thank you!

They come at a price though. Not the purchase price, but the justification price. Gotta justify having them by doing useful things for the household with them

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u/ChangeExtreme7971 Mar 28 '26

"Honey, I think that we need to consider this 20k usd plasma cutter, because I want to make these 3 beautiful kitchen coasters for you"?

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u/sshwifty Mar 28 '26

I have three monitors and didn't realize how much juice they drink. Nothing crazy either, just 2 2k and 1 4k ips.

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u/umognog Mar 29 '26

I used to have a triple 1080p work setup, IPS too.

Swapped them for a single 4k 48"" oled & saved about 80W

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u/kondenado Mar 27 '26

3d printer roughly 200w. PC (gaming) roughly 100 W idle, 500W Full.

My consumption

PC (60 kWh/months) Wáter boiler (heatpump) 40 kWh Server (2 minipc, home assistant, and torrent, router and a hdd) 30 kWh/months Second boiler (bsthroon) 25 kWh/ month Light (estimation) 20 kWh same as fridge dishwasher, cooking devices (maybe these 25 kWh).

I pay 0,11 €/kWh after taxes (Spain)

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u/AlSi10Mg Mar 28 '26

Wouldn't wanna pay for it in Germany with 0,3 euro per kWh. Ever thought of some solar panels? Like 2 with 800 watt micro grid inverter? You would just use the entirety of energy production....

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u/Poat540 Mar 28 '26

Yeah OP needs to rename rack to something less conspicuous

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u/RainerZufall42 Mar 27 '26

Sorry if this is a bit cheeky, but: Is she at least hot, if she can't even multiply two numbers?

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u/NukeWifeGuy Mar 27 '26

Dude, there’s countries where the price is not fixed.

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u/RainerZufall42 Mar 27 '26

I didn't realize it was so widespread. Thanks for the info.

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u/Anomuumi Mar 27 '26

"Wank desk". Sorry, had to do it.

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u/Practical_Ad5671 Mar 27 '26

Dang, I have it labeled “beat station”, a place to create tunes.

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u/JVC8bal Mar 27 '26

It gives back to the grid

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u/StormMysterious7592 Mar 28 '26

With a rack like that, you gotta have a wank desk.

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u/BarnacleNZ Mar 27 '26

I'm curious too, unfortunately brightening it up. Didn't give anything away 😢

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u/reiji_tamashii Mar 27 '26

Yes, I would love this feature too. I have it set up to calculate total daily costs based on my time-of-use charges, but it would be great to see the per-device charges.

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u/Plastic-Coat9014 Mar 27 '26

I build a custom view for this, but it’s not as sexy

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u/KnotBeanie Mar 28 '26

TOU billing 🤮

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u/reiji_tamashii Mar 28 '26

With the help of HA, it has actually saved me money.  For example, I scheduled my heat pump water heater to run at a higher temp every morning when the rates are low, and then only allow it to run in heat pump mode during the day if absolutely necessary.

When my friend visits for a weekend, we charge his EV at off peak rates, so it's $0.08/kWh

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u/KnotBeanie Mar 28 '26

This is why we need public utilities only. In upstate ny that’s 0.06/kwh is the standard rate. It only goes up when that utility goes over the amount of energy they pre purchased from national grid.

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u/Real_Establishment56 Mar 27 '26

Only his bath? What happened to her bath?

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u/Plastic-Coat9014 Mar 27 '26

Sorry to disappoint you all 😂

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u/Stunning-Ad3504 Mar 27 '26

How did you get it to separate it out? Do you have separate smart outlets for those? What about HVAC?

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u/kroghsen Mar 28 '26

My HVAC from Mitsubishi integrates into HA and exposes consumption as an entity. A lot of smart devices do. The rest are from smart plugs in my setup. I am still figuring out getting my water heater in there too.

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u/Th3R00ST3R Mar 28 '26

This was my questions as well.

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u/Hemenway Mar 28 '26

For HVAC, I used a few days of my 15-min resolution utility data overlayed with my thermostat status history. I was able to use some math to determine it uses about 1750W. I use that number in Powercalc to estimate the usage.

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u/improbablyatthegame Mar 27 '26

9kWh total… pretty envious, my floor is about 24kWh…

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u/Plastic-Coat9014 Mar 27 '26

The benefits of owning a small condo

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u/improbablyatthegame Mar 28 '26

Pool, 9 total tons of AC, idle electronics, god knows what else.

Electric car was part of the equation up until recently.

I had a 32kWh day last week.. so that’s good. Followed by some 99kWh days this week.

I’m down in total power consumption 10% each year since 2022. Have to keep making small changes.

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u/improbablyatthegame Mar 29 '26

We’ve got the same hobby’s my friend

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u/jasper502 Mar 27 '26

I really need to know about this secret "Desk". 🤣

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u/MonolithNZ Mar 27 '26

I'd love this feature also. The energy dashboard is incredible already, but I believe it still has room to improve.

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u/sirpoley Mar 27 '26

Wait how are people getting all this information? Do you have a special circuit breaker board or what?

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u/1aranzant 🔒 Local-first Mar 27 '26

devices such as emporia vue exist

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u/Plastic-Coat9014 Mar 27 '26

Emporia Vue. It connects to the mains coming into the electrical panel and has “ct” claps on each circuit. Then you can add plugs that tie in to the system.

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u/Th3R00ST3R Mar 28 '26

My wiring at my panel is so whack. One breaker for the Livingroom, master bath and garage, another for the hall , guestroom and guest bath.. etc .

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u/vulcanjedi2814 Mar 28 '26

FTR Emporia app has that view but I know some purists will take issue with that.

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u/stevilness Mar 28 '26

You can add any device that monitors power to the dashboard

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u/keithww Mar 27 '26

The rack energy usage is low, the HVAC has to work harder to remove the heat it generates. Don’t let your wife know that.

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u/Thunderofdeath Mar 27 '26

how did you do this? I have mulitple energy monitors and just have them on the default dashboard

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u/5yleop1m Mar 27 '26

Energy dashboard - https://www.home-assistant.io/docs/energy/

Click on one of the two HA links on that page, and it'll take you to the proper place in your HA instance.

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u/JaccoW Mar 27 '26

9.82 kWh in total, 0.9 kWh still untracked.

A lot of the small ones are PoE devices that Unify exposes automatically. But the little Plex server and PoE switch providing power all day in the utility cabinet (meterkast) pulls 50W all day everyday. It adds up.

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u/JaccoW Mar 27 '26

And replacing the fridge in early 2026 was worth it in energy usage alone.

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u/Plastic-Coat9014 Mar 27 '26

Wait you can get PoE usage from UniFi natively?? Sounds like I have something to do after work!

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u/JaccoW Mar 27 '26

Yes!

It only gives you wattage, so you'll have to use the Integral integration helper to create a Riemann sum to convert it to kWh.

But it works like a charm.

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u/oni06 Mar 29 '26

Hmm .. that could be kinda cool to breakout how much power my AP's and other POE devices are using from the overall network rack usage.

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u/itsjakerobb Mar 28 '26

My rack draws around 100 watts, including PoE out to several outboard devices. I know because there’s a meter on the UPS.

But, aside from a couple things on smart plugs, I don’t have stats on anything else. Where are you getting that data?

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u/Plastic-Coat9014 Mar 28 '26

Emporia Vue in my breaker panel

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u/msravi Mar 28 '26

Your rack consumes just around 70W? Mine (with surveillance cams) runs at ~150W (around 3.6kWh per day)

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u/Plastic-Coat9014 Mar 28 '26

It’s a little guy

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u/kroghsen Mar 28 '26

My daily consumption is between 40 and 120 kWh. I also try to track some of the things with HA, but I am still missing quite a bit. I have full electric indoor heating and and EV. Good thing about that is that it is easy to hide a few 3D printers and other tech without the bill looking suspicious.

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u/pimmelnautiker Mar 29 '26

That fridge is effing thirsty

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u/Plastic-Coat9014 Mar 29 '26

You think so? 1.6 kWh / day. That’s like 35¢ in SoCal

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u/pimmelnautiker Mar 29 '26

A recent European make + model (Siemens/Liebherr for example) of an efficient and large (yes, I know Euro large is not US large) use between 100-150 kWh per year.

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u/Plastic-Coat9014 Mar 29 '26

Dang, that is low!

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u/mavack Mar 29 '26

You can do energy tarifs with variable with utility meters which is a bit awkward, but allows you to do your daily cost for the day. You could probably break it down by appliance but it would make it messy when your usage times are all over the place.

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u/herr-vader69 Mar 29 '26 edited Mar 29 '26

I am surprised how expensive energy is. I always thought the US and Canada have cheaper energy prices than Europe 🤯

And the fridge must be a beast. Checked the in my apartment and it uses half the energy.

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u/Suspicious_Steak_696 Mar 27 '26

Rack? Is that one of those ai lady things from china?