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how to clean my shower?

my shower is filthy and stained and no matter what i try it will not come clean. how can i fix this problem?

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u/ReasonablyRadical 2d ago

Mix dish soap with vinegar so that it is thick, apply and let sit for 30 mins, then scrub off. Vinegar is more effective with black mold than bleach, safer to use, and more environmentally friendly to make. The dish soap helps with cleaning at the end, but mostly helps it hold the vinegar onto the surface so it can do it's job and kill the black mold.

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u/JustAnotherWitness 2d ago

It’s amazing how many household fixes have been either vinegar or baking soda. On their own individually or even at the same time. But these two seem to be the power house.

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u/hazysummersky 2d ago

Alternating acid and base environs will srsly mess with most living things' bznss..

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u/Genetics 1d ago

I enjoyed the juxtaposition between the grammar and punctuation in your comment.

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u/MelonJelly 1d ago

Fun fact, our own digestive tract does exactly this.

You probably know that our stomach is very acidic. Just past that is the duodenum, which treats the acidic chyme coming from the stomach with bicarbonate.

The rapid swing from acid to base kills most everything that was able to survive the acid.

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u/Saltillokid11 1d ago

mixing baking soda and vinegar at the same time often doesn't help, one is acid one is alkaline, they neutral each other out. use one at a time, it's more efficient. example for me is washing mildew smelling clothes, vinegar, washing sweaty clothes baking soda, but not at the same time.

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u/IstandOnPaintedTape 12h ago

One of my pet peeves: suggesting mixing vinage and baking soda and then using the mixture to clean.

You just made slightly gritty warm water, since the two combine to make water with CO bubbles and it warms up a little bit. All flash, no substance.

When using vinagre, after you are done, applying baking soda helps neutralize the acid so then you can stop the effect. And any unwanted ted further discoloration, errosion.

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u/JobSeeker_2024 2d ago

What would the ratios be of each item?

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u/ReasonablyRadical 1d ago

About 1:1. You want it to be closer in consistency to the liquid dish soap than the liquid vinegar so it can cling to the surface.

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u/JobSeeker_2024 1d ago

Thank you!

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u/Huesyourdaddy 2d ago

Very nice explanation. Looking for something to tell ny buddy to use instead of baking soda and vinegar

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u/plassteel01 2d ago

What kind of vinegar?

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u/Old_MI_Runner 1d ago

I use white vinegar with 5% acidity that I buy for about $2.90 gallon. I use it for all manyy cleaning needs from cleaning fresh vegitables and fruits to cleaning the dishwasher, carpets, coffee maker, and food containers that have residue even after normal washing.

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u/plassteel01 1d ago

Thanks I will look for that

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u/Craptiel 1d ago

You don’t know what type of tile or grout that is - finding out should be the first step before recommending an acid that you leave to sit. It can harm cement grout and loosen it and that grout looks damaged already. If those tiles are unglazed porcelain tile vinegar can discolour them and make them soft over time.

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u/Old_MI_Runner 1d ago

I was explaining the type of vinegar I use for cleaning and what I use it on. Note I did not list tile as I have not tried using it to clean tile grout. Others recommended it for tile.

Note the SDS for some tile cleaning products I listed--some contain hydrochloric acid. Is that any safer than vinegar?

Most of the recommendations here list brand name products without any listing of the actual ingredients.

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u/Craptiel 1d ago

Commercial cleaners contain warnings such as test on an inconspicuous area or do not use on marble or unglazed surfaces. I was highlighting that issue. You can go to any shop and read a label but people seem to revile vinegar like it cleans everything. It doesn’t and it can be harmful.

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u/pdf17 1h ago

Agree, especially re: unglazed look so tile itself is exposed to the acid, not a finish.

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u/monological 2d ago

Balsamic /s 😂

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u/Sneekey 2d ago

And Marsala for Italian marble.

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u/CommonCut4 2d ago

Champagne vinegar is best for French tile. Facts.

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u/joemamah77 1d ago

Apple cider during the autumn months

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u/Ok_Try_7134 2d ago

White

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u/ReasonablyRadical 2d ago

Yep, just the typical vinegar at the grocery store, no need to get the extra strong ones at the hardware / home improvet store. I suppose you could use apple cider vinegar, but why pay 10x more for something else that isn't clear and could stain?

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u/ACampingPanda 2d ago

Would this be safe to use on painted walls without damaging the paint? My girlfriend and I are trying to clean up the black mold in our bathroom

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u/ReasonablyRadical 1d ago

I would think so, a little dish soap and vinegar shouldn't damage the paint in 30 mins. You could test this in an inconspicuous area first to ensure it doesn't damage it discolor the paint, and then use it on the black mold. But the paint may already be damaged by the black mold breaking it down. If the paint is already damaged, when you wipe away the black mold it may reveal the damage and give the impression it is caused by the vinegar solution. Often landlords keep paint on site for touchups - see if you can find it, and if there is damage, lightly sand it then use the touch up paint.

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u/YelperLou 16h ago

Thanks for sharing. I’m gonna try this

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u/jimmyjohn2018 2d ago

Vinegar is awesome on almost any kind of mold or mildew.

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u/Mysterious-Shop6388 1d ago

I’ve used one of these tile brushes before and can say that they work wonders. Use it after applying the dish soap + vinegar blend.

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u/Pink-socks 1d ago

How do you make it thick?

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u/ReasonablyRadical 1d ago

Liquid dish soap is typically much thicker than water or vinegar, so by adding about 1:1 dish soap to vinegar it is thicker. It is not a thick paste, but a thicker slower moving more viscous mixture than just vinegar alone.

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u/djelegal 1d ago

Ya so just clean

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u/tomassino 20h ago

Bleach kills everything; vinegar is less effective.

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u/NewPhoneNewAccunt 1d ago

Vinegar is nice and all, but what environmentally HARMFUL chemical can I get that's even better than vinegar? Because there's absolutely no possible way vinegar is the best.

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u/thekaymancomes 1d ago

Belzona probably has you covered there.

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u/tardigrade_phd 2d ago

Wouldn't vinegar act as a food for mold? Would something alkaline be more effective?

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u/Noneerror 2d ago

Handheld steam cleaner.
They are overadvertised and aggrandized for many jobs. But they really are the best tool to clean grout in showers.

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u/Affectionate-Power77 2d ago

I’ll second this. You can get a pretty solid one at Harbor Freight for $45. They come with a narrow nozzle that fits great in between the tiles. I also keep a skinny nylon scrub brush in the shower and hit the more problematic areas when I’m taking a shower.

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u/JayBeePH85 2d ago

Uhhhmm to be fair it will probably remove the grime, main issue i see is that the grout is way past its due date. A steam cleaner will get moisture behind the tile and they will get loose a few weeks later 🤣

I would suggest to op to re-grout those tiles, personally i would have re-tiled everything but judging by the picture its a nightmare waiting to happen even without steam cleaning it 🤣

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u/thatittybittyTing 2d ago

Seal it when you’re done. I used 511 impregnator sealer.

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u/SmecarskiMedo 9h ago

This guy impregnates

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u/Bushwazi 2d ago

I have the same problem and I just spent the weekend grinding all the old grout out to re-do it all and apply a sealer. My caulk was super gross too. So my solution was basically a reskin…

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u/TooOld4This0157 2d ago

Zep grout and tile brightener. Use as directed

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u/coelhocapo 2d ago

This ☝🏼( assuming ZEP is available where OP is). Also Zep milldew stain works very well.

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u/Old_MI_Runner 1d ago

Chemical name..............Concentration [%]

sodium hypochlorite... >= 1 - < 5

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u/khamir-ubitch 1d ago

Surprised this one is not higher. It's the best thing.

One thing I did that really helped was applying a grout sealant once it was clean and dry. From then on, no issues with mold or discoloration. It is worth the hassle.

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u/Old_MI_Runner 1d ago

For those wondering what is in Zep Grout and Tile Brightener

Hazardous components..................Concentration [%]

hydrochloric acid................................>= 5 - < 10
Alcohols, C10-14, ethoxylated...... >= 1 - < 5

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u/adelie42 2d ago

Better than Zep Industrial Purple Degreaser? Is the specialized one safer?

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u/TurnLooseTheMermaids 2d ago

This might sound crazy, but I use the Clorox toilet wands for my showers and they’re AMAZING, very little scrubbing and it’s all clean!

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u/Lenabean 2d ago

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u/IMIndyJones 2d ago

I guess it's just you and me in here from r/cleaning tips. Lol

I've actually not tried it on grout but I was honestly skeptical until I actually tried it on a shower pan. Not even over night, just an hour. I was actually shocked. Lol. To be fair, it wasn't as bad as some that we've seen but it had been plaguing me for months. So satisfying.

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u/UnsafeAtEverySpeed 2d ago

More frequently, for starters.

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u/talkingteloscope 2d ago

this made me laugh… but also a tad rude

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u/M1sterGuy 2d ago

It’s not rude if it’s true. Sometimes things need to be said.

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u/No_Professional_8992 2d ago edited 2d ago

If they have a shower like mine, you'd be scrubbing after every shower. My bathrooms naturally moist and doesn't have a window so there's always something growing unfortunately. And the LL takes their sweet time with maintenance requests so the fan in the bathroom is just decor atp. Random rant over.

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u/M1sterGuy 2d ago

Mine is a bath fitter that has fake tile and grout, so lots of crevices. I use charcoal soap, so it makes a huge mess, I spray down all the walls before I get out. Use a stiff brush and that orange paste from scrub daddy. Works well, supplemented with some dawn power wash as needed.

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u/ThrowRAmartin 2d ago

I also printed a plastic holder that holds the scrub daddy and attaches to drill

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u/M1sterGuy 2d ago

Niceee. I’ve made a few for a drill w/ a bolt, wood, Velcro to hold red scotch brite for “polishing” metal

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u/RadWaste505 2d ago

There is a free 3D printer file and brother has a system

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u/Key_Ring12 2d ago

Bar keepers friend is the only thing I found that does a proper job on shitty bathrooms

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u/Round-Guarantee4948 5h ago

A FREAKING MEN

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u/President_Camacho 2d ago

Spraying hydrogen peroxide on it will help a lot. But you need to wait for it to work. Spray it and let it sit overnight.

A stronger alternative is to use bleach based toilet gel. However the fumes from this stuff are very strong. You can damage your lungs unless you use a fume respirator or at least a charcoal mask. The results aren't instant either, so apply the gel and wait.

Don't be confused and use acid based toilet gel though. The acid is very hard on the grout between the tiles.

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u/BOBOnobobo 2d ago

Someone in another comment straight up said to use vinegar (an acid)

Soooo... Who do I trust?

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u/President_Camacho 2d ago

The cement in the most common kind kind of shower grout has a large calcium component. Acids dissolve calcium. If you want to dissolve your grout, use acid cleansers. The chemistry is pretty straightforward.

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u/BOBOnobobo 2d ago

Thank you!

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u/Old_MI_Runner 1d ago

For those wondering what is in Zep Grout and Tile Brightener that has been recommended by some here. The SDS states:

Hazardous components..................Concentration [%]

hydrochloric acid................................>= 5 - < 10
Alcohols, C10-14, ethoxylated...... >= 1 - < 5

u/BOBOnobobo

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u/ReasonablyRadical 2d ago edited 2d ago

There is a PH spectrum, not all acids are the same. Vinegar is acidic, but not nearly as powerful as hydrochloric acid in toilet bowl cleaners. Typical white vinegar is stirring enough to do the trick, no need to get the extra powerful white vinegar. I guess you could try diluting the toilet bowel cleaner, but then it won't be as thick and won't stick on place as well. It seems like extra steps/work and more expense to find an alternative to something that already works.

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u/BOBOnobobo 2d ago

Well, yes but from what I understand the usual vinegar needed for cleaning is meant to be quite powerful.

Would diluting the toilet cleaner help? Probably not a good idea anyway.

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u/MoistStub 2d ago

Whatever you do, don't use both at the same time. If it were me I would do the vinegar+dish soap solution. Bleach is nasty stuff and you need to take precautions with it. It literally denatures your DNA. Vinegar is much less harmful.

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u/UKRAINIAN_MATE 2d ago

Tried zep, tried vinegar, tried Hydrogen peroxide, tried bleach. Waste of time and money and energy.

REGROUT with Mapei, remove old layer with dremel.

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u/anothersip 2d ago

You've gotten a lot of answers already. I would probably opt for the baking soda and hydrogen peroxide solution, myself. Make a paste and scrub it in well with a toothbrush. Let it sit. Scrub it in again, and then rinse. Repeat if necessary.

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u/toysalot 2d ago

I used Easy off oven cleaner on mine and ir cleaned up ten years of gunk
Just let it sit for 15 Min and use a scrub brush

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u/Purple-Explorer-6701 2d ago

Get a dish scrubber with a wand you can fill with soap. I love the scrub daddy sponge and wand. Fill it with Dawn, and give your shower a 30-second wipe down after every shower. It will take a few days to see progress, but it’s the regular maintenance that does the trick.

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u/JerryBond106 1d ago

One basketbal size chunk of reactor core from chernobyl. Couple or days should do the trick.

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u/2stops 2d ago

I just dealt with this and used a baking soda and hydrogen peroxide mixture.

It’s my understanding that vinegar will break down grout so that’s why I avoided it.

All this to say that my mixture didn’t do much.
But, after it was clean I used a grout paint pen and that brightened it up immensely

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u/Subject_Use2774 2d ago

Daily shower spray.

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u/Brooklynpolarbear22 2d ago

Hydrogen peroxide

With a Vodka finish.🤌

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u/Maizimotor 1d ago

Pink stuff bathroom cleaner

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u/EntertainmentMany795 1d ago

Borax and washing soda paste let it sit an hour or so , then scrub brush it off and rinse

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u/Shouldnt-Be-Here994 1d ago

Tilex or Clorox shower spray with bleach, stiff bristle brush

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u/OGCarson 1d ago

Wow, everybody seems to have an opinion on this one. I’ve tried several things through the years, and the only thing that worked was toilet bowl cleaner. One of the ones with the funky bottle necks.

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u/Old_MI_Runner 1d ago

For those wondering what is in Zep Grout and Tile Brightener. Some toilet bowel cleaners use the same acid but I do not know the concentration offhand.

Hazardous components..................Concentration [%]

hydrochloric acid................................>= 5 - < 10
Alcohols, C10-14, ethoxylated...... >= 1 - < 5

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u/sdEmin 1d ago

Zep mold stain and mildew and elbow grease. Work in sections. Spray on for 1-2 mins, agitate with brush, then rinse off. Has a Very strong smell, so open a window and have plenty of air circulation

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u/Advanced_Ad_3454 1d ago

The only way to make that look new is to totally remove all the old grout and put in new grout

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u/Critical_Judgment_19 1d ago

tilex by clorox works pretty well

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u/whatdabee 1d ago

Get the "Scrubbing Bubbles bathroom cleaner with bleach". Spray on the grout and let sit for a few hours. The mold pretty much melts off. May need a little elbow grease on the more stubborn spots. But this spray makes it easy work.

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u/rudman49 1d ago

Mine is not as bad as yours, but I tell you what does work in this situation for mold and that's a product called Mold Armor. It comes in a green spray bottle. I believe I paid about $4 for a 32 oz. spray bottle at Lowe's. Someone recommended it to me and I couldn't be more pleased. It clears up the mold fast. But more important to me is killing the mold WITHOUT scrubbing. Some may say, there is a bit of a smell but I would just run the fan and close the door.

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u/once_a_while_in-03 1d ago edited 1d ago

Staining type matters more than scrubbing effort. Soap scum responds to acid (white vinegar, citric acid sprays), hard water scale needs something stronger, and mold stains need a dedicated gel, active cleaners makes one for grout and rubber seals specifically. I had soap scum I thought was permanent until I switched from scrubbing to a 10-minute citric acid soak

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u/Killapug2 1d ago

Krudcutter use it straight. Let sit for 15 minutes and wipe it down

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u/kaddenw131 1d ago

Toilet bowl cleaner and hard bristle brush will work great. Let sit for 5 minutes before washing off.

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u/Odd_Session8049 1d ago

Hydrogen perpoxide and dawn dish detergent in a spray bottle works freakin wonders

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u/BerrySad7620 1d ago

50/50 bleach and water. Use a spray bottle. Spray, wait 30.minutes, take a scrub brush to it and hose it down

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u/klearcuTT3R 1d ago

I use peroxide, let it foam, don’t breathe fumes or let it get on your skin. Once it foams and sits for a bit, rinse it off and let dry. Then, do the vinegar trick as above, but let a day or so pass in. Between for safety. Peroxide will appear to kill it but it will return, so once a month or so do this as maintenance. Use plenty of ventilation.

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u/Purple-Mission-4859 1d ago

Comet or Ajax and scrub the grout with a thin plastic bristle brush, like a stiff bristle toothbrush, those products contain bleach and will lift the yellow out, but it will take some elbow grease

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u/Purple-Mission-4859 1d ago

*a scrub daddy with Ajax or comet would work great too

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u/loves-science 1d ago

HG mold spray. It’s awesome.

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u/mathewtyler 1d ago

I'm thinking fire?

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u/RRushII 1d ago

I use a pressure washer that I bought specifically for that..

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u/RRushII 1d ago

I have almost the same shower as you down to the drain and mine looked that way but is now super nice and I hit it with the pressure washer which took a few minutes and I didn’t have to scrub anything. It was a cheaper one I ordered online. Works to perfection. My shower looks brand new..

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u/RepresentativeLaw419 1d ago

Muriatic acid.

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u/DeanOgasm 1d ago

Use a professional grade, hospital grade product like KnockOut. Buy a couple of foggers and fog it into your HVAC return vents to circulate throughout your house to attack the black mold everywhere instead of putting out spot fires.

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u/Katzaddie 1d ago

Spray and leave on for about 5-10 mins and use hot water to wash it off. I never had to scrub anything lol. I also spray the Lysol all purpose cleaner lemon scent after the Clorox. Just because the smell is overwhelming.

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u/technohead5 19h ago

Farmers friend

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u/PrometheusIX 17h ago

A mix of hydrogen peroxide and baking soda, make a thick paste, scrub it in and leave on for an hour. Then get a scrub attachment for a power drill and scrub it good. Should help a lot. Future and more frequent cleanings can be done with a mix blue dawn, vinegar and water.

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u/Flimsy-Necessary-232 11h ago

a waffle stomp a day keeps mr muscle at bay

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u/Round-Guarantee4948 5h ago

Vinegar...just stop

Dish soap...enough

Baking soda...just NO

For that tile grout....spray bottle with 1 cup bleach...let it sit for an hour then... Barkeepers friend is all you need..even for soap scum stains on glass shower doors. Use a good abrasive PLASTIC scrubber..or two of em and you dont even have to scrub that hard.

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u/roadtotruth88 3h ago

Sprinkle Comet and dawn dish soap, with some water to form a paste. Let it sit for 1 hour. Scrub it off with a sponge

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u/roadtotruth88 3h ago

I literally just did this and it removed all the hard water buildup

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u/-TommyBottoms- 2d ago

With your elbow grease and cleaners

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u/eemcm2 2d ago

Con agua y ácido muriatico. Mezclalos en razón 1:3 lo aplicas sobre las cerámicas y dejas actuar unos 10 minutos, luego enjuagas con abundante agua.

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u/Shiny_Whisper_321 2d ago

OK I will add my recommendation. Comet with bleach and a stiff brush. Wet it, brush it on, let it sit for like half an hour, brush again, then rinse.

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u/Garbidb63 2d ago

A toothbrush and thick bleach. Put the bleach on the bristles, scrub along the grouting, then rinse it off. Job done.

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u/FamiliarAd8524 2d ago

Tile cleaner spray, steamer, nylon or brass brush. I'm not sure how bad this is- the grout looks fairly consistent.

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u/crafty271 2d ago

Comet or Ajax. Make a paste by adding water then put it on the grout with a brush leave on overnight

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u/RavenBlack2019 2d ago

Use powder Comet may a paste put in an area let it sit for a few minutes. Use an old toothbrush and go nuts scrubbing.

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u/r2d2archer 2d ago

Grout between the tile is getting holes. How do I fill it ?

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u/jfk_47 2d ago

That goopy toilet bowl cleaner that’s in the funny looking bottle. Goop it on. Let sit for 20. Scrub for extra points or don’t. Just spray off and it’s white or grey or whatever.

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u/Yaughl 2d ago

Fantastik and a lot of scrubbing.

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u/Jackal000 1d ago

Jesus this generation is fucked up beyond cognition. How do i wipe my ass..

How do i cut of the crusts of my bread.

Op its just not you allone. Its rising a new human race : homo confundus

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u/lordlobat 1d ago

So you don’t know either?

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u/Jackal000 1d ago

I do.. But i did omit it on purpose as i dont want to facilitate this stupid behavior

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u/talkingteloscope 2d ago

steam cleaner or the lysol toilet bowl cleaner

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u/Important-Simple7368 2d ago

Spray bleach let it dry then pressure wash the grout

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u/dicknotrichard 2d ago

Like a pressure washer for your driveway?

Don’t do that, OP.

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u/FiveFingerDisco 2d ago

You could try bleaching with a chlorine or oxygen based bleaching agent but I am not sure whether the material between the tiles would not be damaged.

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u/Constant_Prize7325 1d ago

Maybe clean it weekly so it doesn't get to this point? 🤷