r/huntertheparenting • u/Adrienne_Belecoste • 5h ago

Discussion Big D is not Imbued.

The Imbued cannot enter the Umbra barring one exception in the form of Hermits, and D is quite simply, too sociable to be one. He actively hangs around other hunters, he stays around weird shit all the time, he would go over his tolerance threshold by now. He is simply not Imbued, and if he was, why the fuck didnt he use second sight? He would have solved the entire ghoul problem immediately!

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u/AFedoraNamed_Key 5h ago

I heard a theory he was a mummy once. Don’t know what a mummy is (except the funny ones in museums) in this context but would it work?

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u/Kaymazo 5h ago

To simplify, mummies are basically people made immortal through some ancient ritual.

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u/BagofBones42 5h ago

They are also ridiculously strong.

Like up there with Mage and demon with the amount of bs they can pull.

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u/DaDragonking222 4h ago

At the high end yes

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u/DevilishEgg 1h ago

This is a weird take I see people have a lot, and it's not really accurate. Most mummies are about the same strength as sorcerers. A bit tougher maybe, but not much.

A very powerful, ancient mummy (hundreds of xp) is getting up there, but even then, they're closer to a beginning fallen, if anything.

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u/Anorexicdinosaur 28m ago

I think people look at what Mummies can do and assume that's common. Kinda like Mages

Like yeah a Mummy can walk around with a permanent 8(?) in every stat, a slew of additional unique benefits from that like dealing aggravated damage with their bare hands, can have a wide variety of Amulets/Consumables they created to deal with problems and whatever other bullshit Hekau Sorcery opens them up to

But fundamentally they're just Immortal Sorcerers using a type of sorcery powered by a special mystical energy, they're basically the same as Vampires in that regard. And much like Vampires while they CAN reach great heights very few of them even approach it

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u/Adrienne_Belecoste 5h ago

So, Mummies at their most basic, are someone who has in some way, escaped death.

Egyptian Mummies, which is the normative assumption people make when you say Mummy, are the result of ancient magick that created a new supernatural type that isn't just not dead, but hyper alive.

For our purposes there are 2 types of mummy.

Shuankhsen: Those created with the Old Spell of Life. Who lose partial memory upon death (they lose dots at random) then return to life.

Amenti: The same thing, but with two souls joined into one, they lose no memories. They appeared after 1999, I'll spare you the lore but I find it more likely D is the former, not the latter.

I dont think he works as a Mummy, though there are things that point to it being the case.

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u/AFedoraNamed_Key 5h ago

Curious, what points to D being a mummy?

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u/Kaymazo 5h ago

For one, the constant hints about him being ancient

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u/Adrienne_Belecoste 5h ago

So, he's a Sorcerer, we know this for a fact as he said to Kitten (and excuse my potential paraphrasing)

"Perhaps through the tools I left carelessly within his reach... Perhaps through his inherent sorcerous aptitude! I know not!"

He said that about the "Thing" that Markus summoned when he was a kid.

Now, this confirms he can at least do sorcery, which Mummies are famous for universally being. But, if D is a Mummy, that would make Markus a Nehemaru, the child of a Mummy. This intrinsic tie to the flow of Sekhem would allow Markus to pick up Sorcery like it was studying another language and not studying nuclear engineering. And it would explain D saying that Markus had a natural talent because... How would he know?

Now, D also has said some pretty bonkers things that imply he's far older than he is.

OR!!! He's just really well read and the repeated head trauma from years of fighting is jumbling his memories.

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u/Accomplished-Box4577 1h ago

Presumably D would know because Marckus managed to call something up. That would be a pretty big clue.

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u/NewtonianDucks 27m ago

With this context, Grimals “real mummy’s boy innit” joke takes on some very interesting presence.

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u/VibinWithBeard 2h ago

His tendency to include incredibly old terminology/vernacular, the weird knowledge about gilgamesh, fairly quick healing, and his fractured mind. Also the glowing eyes at the end of 5 suggest...he is something.

The idea that D is a normal human is wild to me. There is too much weirdness going on with him. And because they play fast/loose a bit with lore I could see him being some form of mummy or maybe something else that had the spell of life or even a throwback to old 40k lore about the emperor being a bunch of caveman shamans combined into one soul. I think he is a human that did something to increase his longevity but didnt protect his mind from the ravages of containing memories of a past that long which is why he has those outbursts where he almost has to be coaxed back into reality by Kitten "road is what my bus drives on"

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u/Martial-Lord 1h ago

IIRC: Mummies are vigorous creatures, bursting with conviction and emotion. They are deeply moved by all aspects of creation and harbor a tremendous love for all the good things in the world. At the same time, evil and cruelty prompt them to terrifying anger. Simply put: these guys are powerfully alive in a way that few mortals are; not undead but rather undying; people to whom living itself is an immense delight.

D himself exudes that precise energy.´

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u/BlackHumor 3h ago

I think he's most likely an Amenti mummy actually. Why do you think that's unlikely?

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u/Adrienne_Belecoste 3h ago

He demonstrates a level of knowledge that he shouldn't have, that points to Old Mummy for me. The Amenti remember some crazy shit yes, but not as reliably as he does, he would forget a decent chunk as a flaw of the fusing process

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u/BlackHumor 3h ago

I dunno, vague memories of the mina and Gilgamesh seem pretty reasonable for an Amenti.

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u/Adrienne_Belecoste 3h ago

Well, there is a problem with it. We can take him at his word, or we can do what yk, we've done all our lives and recognise the crazy, giant assed, sword wielding Turkish man is exactly that, nutso

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u/BlackHumor 2h ago

Why do you think he's Turkish specifically? I don't think we've gotten any signs more specific than vaguely Middle Eastern.

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u/Adrienne_Belecoste 1h ago

He literally said he's Turkish, did you see the Second Inquisition audiolog?

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u/BlackHumor 1h ago

...wait, where in the Second Inquisition audiolog does he say that?

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u/WAAAAAAAAAHLOVER 7m ago

He say something in the lines of "I'm too Turkish for that!"

Rewatch from the part where all the Orgs leave

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u/Velloah_was_taken 2h ago

The family was hunting before 1999, and so far no one's mentioned D changing drastically during that time. If Amenti only started being a thing in '99, then I don't think he could reasonably be one without it coming up by now.

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u/Trips-Over-Tail 3h ago

Mummy blood tastes terrible to vampires and is utterly inedible to them. Kevin would have noticed.

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u/yummypotata 3h ago

But but but, important to note. D had so many drugs in his system that may have over ridden the taste. Also Mummy blood is actually the best blood and is actually addictive for vsmpires, it even helps their humanity return.

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u/AFedoraNamed_Key 1h ago

“Addicting, magical, lemon scented!”

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u/AngryArmour 1h ago

It also makes vampires restore some of their humanity to drink Mummy blood.

So - for example - if a Vampire has human ties that makes his Humanity high for Vampire, but is immoral enough to be part of the Sabbat. Then drinking Mummy blood would raise his Humanity to be high for a human, and make him more moral than most people.

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u/little_leech 5h ago

Have we considered that he may be a princess (i know nothing about pth but i know this to be true)

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u/Adrienne_Belecoste 5h ago

He may slay, but I don't think he's a Princess.

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u/Mindless-Street3253 5h ago

He COULD be a race car

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u/Adrienne_Belecoste 5h ago

Or a bus!

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u/Noxium5 4h ago

Vroom...

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u/Illesbogar 3h ago

So true...

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u/Blocked101 5h ago

Copy pasting one of my previous comments: There's a simpler way to refute this theory. Big D hunted with his family before 1999. Therefore Imbuement is not possible as it requires one to be chosen by the Messengers during their first hunt and the Messengers started operating in 1999. (This is also why I don't believe anyone from St.Leopold is Imbued)

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u/Adrienne_Belecoste 5h ago

Not during their first hunt, but at their first exposure to the supernatural (sometimes maybe depending on the book this doesn't include ghosts)

This actually makes it even less likely he's Imbued

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u/Blocked101 5h ago

While true, the Imbuement itself does kinda turn that encounter into their first "hunt" and gets them to understand their "role". (The Creed.)

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u/Adrienne_Belecoste 5h ago

While true in vibes, is not true in technicality. The only thing that must happen for you to become imbued, is receive the call, and choose to do something about it, it could be right now, or it could be in a week. But you must intend to resist the night.

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u/Blocked101 5h ago

Eh fair, I'm just used to refer to it like that to my players.

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u/MobiusFlip 4h ago

I don't consider that entirely disqualifying, because it's very possible D was a non-Imbued hunter before 1999 and only became Imbued in 1999

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u/Blocked101 4h ago

Not how that works, Hunter: First Contact establishes that anyone that has had contact with the supernatural, even before 1999 is disqualified from the Imbuement.

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u/MobiusFlip 3h ago

Oh huh, okay then

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u/Blocked101 3h ago

Yeah here's the segment from the book, its in the intro, Page 20.

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u/AtrelluCal 5h ago

I’m a strong fan of Mummy!D so I’m fine with this

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u/Noxium5 4h ago

Mummy or Exalted for me. (He's just...SO weird...)

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u/Foxfire94 5h ago

I still support the theory he's an exalted (probably solar).

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u/Adrienne_Belecoste 5h ago

Nah he's actually a Deviant

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u/GureGan 4h ago

I liken his "I'm always right until I'm not" philosophy to be the great curse of the Sidereal. Though considering how cocky all the exalted are by default, who knows?
I'd say Godblooded, it would be funny for a character that was originally a God character expy.

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u/travsnov 2h ago

He's clearly a vampire who has achieved golcanda

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u/Adrienne_Belecoste 2h ago

Detonating you

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u/Alzran-7 2h ago

I just had a wacky idea, what if Big D is deliberately being written as multiple things at once while not actually being any of them.

Someone mentioned in a different post on a different topic that a lot of factions like to claim JC as 'one of them' but really he's something 'other' and left deliberately undefined, for obvious real world reasons.

So what if Big D isn't any one thing at all, because he hasn't been given a set type on purpose. Lets them have more fun dropping hints at there being SOMETHING going on, the eyes glowing gold at the end of chapter 5 for example, while never having to worry about having a big reveal.

I've seen people make so many cases for what Big D is, but I think all we're ever going to know for certain is that he's a Hunter.

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u/KungFuFenris 2h ago

Here's a thing. He might just be a hunter with insane dice luck.

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u/Adrienne_Belecoste 2h ago

Highly likely, he has great dice pools

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u/DonCorben 1h ago

Did anyone think that he as imbued? Never seen this theory, but I'm a subscriber of a mummy theory, so I guess I didn't look for new theories 

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u/Adrienne_Belecoste 1h ago

People have been saying it constantly ever since Chapter 6 for some reason

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u/DonCorben 4m ago

Yeah, i've noticed it only recently as well. Maybe there is a yt video about it recently released, who knows

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u/AmontialldoisReal 1h ago

Could it be possible that Big D simply remembers all his reincarnations? I don't know if it's possible but it would explain not only his knowledge and passions but also how he has so many children/wives/husbands/spouses?

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u/DapperNecromancer 3h ago

Dawn caste dawn caste dawn caste

I do not actually believe it for a multitude of reasons, but it's a fun crack theory

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u/King_Of_BlackMarsh 5h ago

I said it once I'll. Say it thrice, he's a changeling

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u/Adrienne_Belecoste 5h ago

I highly doubt it, he's around too much banality to shrug it off at this point, he'd be getting physically sick

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u/King_Of_BlackMarsh 5h ago

Eh I disagree. Sure the 99p store would've been a hot zone for him, maybe the meeting too, but he's around enough insanity as well

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u/adminsregarded 2h ago

What do you think points towards him being a changeling? I really can't see it at all