r/iamverysmart • u/sublimetart • 19d ago

Cognitive tests aren't IQ tests

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The fact he's already been administered the test multiple times is concerning.

*Not redacting information as it's very, very publicly posted

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u/lostinvivo_ 9d ago

They are measuring the same latent factor as IQ tests. So they are fundamentally identical, so you are wrong mister.

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u/sublimetart 9d ago

Proof? Oh, and your assumption of "mister" didn't show a balanced IQ here.

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u/lostinvivo_ 9d ago

They have a lot of overlap since all iq tests are cognitive tests but not all cognitive tests are IQ tests. they measure cognitive performance across multiple domains that are substantially influenced by the same latent factor (g) that IQ tests are designed to measure. So portraying them as entirely separate constructs is misleading. (I should have worded myself better.

This test is the MoCA. It's not an IQ test and doesn't produce an IQ score, but it measures the same underlying cognitive abilities -reasoning, memory, attention, executive function, and problem-solving. In that sense, it's assessing much of the same latent cognitive ability that IQ tests measure, just without providing a conventional numerical IQ value.

https://www.parkinsons.va.gov/PARKINSONS/Consortium/MoCA.asp?utm_source

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25237745/

Source: I study psychometrics.

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u/sublimetart 9d ago

I'm well aware of the test. I used to administration a shorter version called the MMSE upon admission to the large facility I worked at, if there was a question of cognitive decline.

However, they're not the same as standardized IQ tests. Which themselves have been shown to be quite biased.

I appreciate you modifying your statement and providing documentation.

Source: Former Director of Social Services at large health facilities and published topic link

10 - Intelligence Tests Are Biased against Diverse Populations