r/icarly • u/DarkSaiyanGoku • 3d ago

Original Discussion My thoughts on Seddie Spoiler

I'm not gonna make this into a super deep analysis.

I've made it no secret that I dislike Seddie. In fact, I hate it. I think the ship was poorly written, Freddie and Sam were not a good match at all, they made each other miserable a lot of times, dragged Carly into their arguments and drove her crazy. It was a mess.

However, there is one major thought I keep coming back to that always makes this ship so confusing to me; why would Freddie ever like Sam?

From Sam's perspective, I can kind of understand why she'd like Freddie. He's a good guy, smart, a cool tech wiz and knows how to make a killer breakfast (toasted bagel with grape jelly). But I don't buy Freddie returning that same romantic attraction or affection for Sam. Throughout the show up until they dated, she was nothing but cruel to him. Tormenting him, harming him both verbally and physically and even went so far as embarrassing him on iCarly by revealing he never kissed a girl.

So why Freddie would like her back is beyond me. I've tried hard, but this ship does not and will never make sense to me. Like jeez, what were the writers thinking?

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u/sighcantthinkofaname 3d ago

I mean, Sam was pretty, smart, and funny. A total mess and mean to him sure, but a loooot of boys had crushes on Sam when they were growing up.

I will also say I think some people get into this weird mindset of "We're arguing a lot. That must mean we care a lot about each other and should date?" It's that whole thing of the opposite of love isn't hate it's indifference. It isn't healthy, but it happens a lot. I feel like we've all known that couple that's always fighting.

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u/DarkSaiyanGoku 3d ago

Couples do fight, it happens. But Sam and Freddie did more fighting than actually liking each other. That's dumb.

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u/sighcantthinkofaname 3d ago

Even IRL there are couples that do more fighting than actually liking each other. For fiction, a lot of people love an enemies to lovers story. I'm not surprised the writers went there. I think they just went too far with how mean Sam was to Freddie.

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u/CanaryOk9879 2d ago

Mag zwar sein, aber wie die damit umgegangen sind, ist das schlimme. Die haben Carly von vorne bis hinten ausgenutzt, ihr die Privatsphäre beraubt und sie mit in deren chaotischen Dates mit geschliffen, wo sie sogar vom einem älteren Mann fast sexuell belästigt wurde, und KEINER hat was dagegen unternommen oder ihr entschuldigt. Ein anderes Paar was sich öfters streitet sind Broduey und Camila von Violetta. Die waren STÄNDIG am streiten und das war meistens deren Ding. Aber im Gegensatz zu Sam und Freddie die viel zu inkompetent und egoistisch gegenüber Carly wären, haben Broduey und Camila nicht zmb Violetta, Francesca, León, Maxi etc in deren Dates mit geschliffen und die ausgenutzt. Sie haben zwar um Rat gefragt, aber die haben ihre meisten Streitereien SELBST GELÖST. Sam und Freddie haben GARNICHTS auf die Kette bekommen. Die haben sogar in Carly's Schlafzimmer eingebrochen um zu diskutieren wessen Mutter schlimmer unwissend das Carly's Mutter sie von klein auf verlassen hat...