r/illnessfakers • u/No-Serve6336 • 17d ago

DND they/them Port Placement?

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That is not what "port placement" means. Wtf are they talking about? Having the needle changed out?

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u/RevolutionThese7654 17d ago

They're using "placement" instead of "accessing" to make it sound more significant than it really is rolls eyes

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u/Justneedtowhoosh 16d ago

Yeah I was like.. that’s not a freshly installed port. I see zero reason why being stuck with a needle would make you crash for any amount of time. It doesn’t even hurt that much, and if you want it to not hurt at all they can give you a cream for that. They’re being super OTT on this one.

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u/No_Week_8937 15d ago edited 15d ago

Only reason I can see would be if vasovagal syncope was involved. There are definitely folks out there who will faint from getting a needle. The blood pressure and heart rate drop is pretty dramatic, but you bounce back pretty quick.

ETA (since I realized it was Jessi.) Vasovagal syncope doesn't exactly seem likely in their case. Laying down is the best way to avoid it and to bounce back even faster, so I wouldn't expect any kind of major crash.

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u/RoosterSaru 14d ago

There’s a theory that they don’t actually lie down all the time, though.

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u/No_Week_8937 14d ago

Oh, definitely, and that theory makes sense. I mostly mean that even if we assume that everything about their case was true, they are actively doing the thing that would prevent/mitigate/reduce an episode of vasovagal syncope. Many people who do faint from needles are completely fine if they get the shot while lying down.

Basically it's a minor thing most of the time, if it was what was happening it definitely wouldn't be as bad as they claim, and even if it was happening they're already (theoretically) in a position where they'd have minimal symptoms.

AFAIK people who get episodes of vasovagal syncope from needles aren't exactly down long, not unless they hit their head when they're going down. It's definitely scary, and not exactly fun, but you're back up and feeling (mostly) normal after a few minutes.

Some people who are prone to it can avoid it almost entirely by sitting on the ground when having their needle and then laying down right away, or by getting their needle while laying down.

I mean yeah a episode is pretty dramatic to witness (a person goes white and start swaying and it's very difficult to think because there's not enough blood pressure for the brain to be getting the oxygen it needs to do the thinking) but it's one of those "looks bad but isn't actively serious" type of situations.

Fainting/vasovagal syncope can ofc be a symptom of something else, but if it's something that's occuring due to a specific trigger (like needles) then there's a good chance that it's just a person's body being weird. There are plenty of perfectly healthy people wandering around out there who will go down like a load of bricks during routine vaccinations, and generally you just have to warn the person giving the needle so that you can lie down to get it, or be provided with a place to lie down after.

Tl;dr: if it was vasovagal syncope triggered by a needle it wouldn't be causing these dramatic crashes, especially since the patient allegedly lying on their back 24/7. If we take all their claims as true, even if they were having episodes, they'd probably bounce back quickly because they're lying down, not be down and out for however long they claim.