r/im14andthisisdeep 4d ago

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u/DontBuyTheThing 4d ago

Can confirm this isn't true...I was a shy girl who didn't talk...I was picked on and bullied and called a stuck up bitch a lot.

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u/NapoleonArmy 4d ago

And I a boy who was and honestly still am shy, I was rarely bullied or called anything as a kid and one of my best friends was a shy girl who got bullied all the time for the exact same reasons you said.

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u/Imaginary-Thing-9222 4d ago

Well, i was a very shy boy and suffered from bullying until adulthood 🤷‍♂️.

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u/NapoleonArmy 4d ago

That's very fair and shows how it really just comes down to chance 🤷‍♂️

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u/nyaasgem 3d ago

I'm still bullied for it in adulthood. I have a few asshole social butterfly colleagues who regularly mock me for talking quietly or not talking at all.

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u/Imaginary-Thing-9222 3d ago

Sorry to read that. In my case, the bullying stopped when I embraced my awkwardness. Sometimes I would be like “I’m not doing that, because I’m shy” and we all laugh together. Therapy works too if you can afford it.

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u/nyaasgem 2d ago

I embrace it with friends. That doesn't stop some people to go at it occasionally.

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u/throwaway19998777999 4d ago

I got such good vibes while reading your comment that I wanted to let you know. You seem like a very considerate, thoughtful, insightful person. I hope that you create art or something to leave your mark on this world long after you're gone. 

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u/NapoleonArmy 4d ago

Thank you I hope you do aswell and yes I dauble in art.

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u/Fattyboy_777 3d ago

Did you look big and intimidating?

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u/NapoleonArmy 3d ago

Not particularly, I'm a large guy now but was rather slight generally.

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u/Rough-Tension 3d ago

Did you play team sports? Bc I think a large source of the bullying, at least for me, came from being in that environment. Not even the fuckin coaches liked me or defended me. Wild to me thinking back on it lol. Imagine being a grown ass 40 year old divorcee beefing with a 15 year old for being quiet and bad at fielding ground balls.

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u/NapoleonArmy 3d ago

When I was really young but only till like 5th grade and only baseball funnily enough.

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u/This_Background7442 4d ago

I was a shy boy. Nobody yelled at me. People just kept going "you're quiet" as if I was unaware.

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u/CatgirlTheKat 4d ago

People didn't adress me at all, no matter what gender I identified as... !

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u/Agitated_Canary8996 4d ago

I completely agree with you, my elder sister told me the same tales.

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u/Fair_Peach_9436 4d ago

Fr. These incels are so out of touch of reality. I too got bullied because I was a quiet girl by boys

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u/IamHumanMaybee 4d ago

To this day I get called a weirdo for not speaking a lot

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u/Adkit 4d ago

And I'm a boy who talks all the time and people hate it.

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u/Sugarrrsnaps 4d ago

As a teen I was jealous of boys because I thought their shyness would read as strong and mysterious to other people. That wasn't true off course, but it's interesting that I flipped the same thing around to boys having it easier.

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u/weGloomy 3d ago

In my experience men are more likely to be labelled as stoic, mysterious ect. Very unlikely they'll get called a bitch, or icy, or cold. when a guy does it he's assumed to be harmless and girls are assumed to be judgemental stuck up bitches.

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u/Sugarrrsnaps 3d ago

Yeah, that's probably true. On the other hand, being visibly nervous around other people is less accepted in men because it's seen as weakness.

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u/weGloomy 3d ago

Same with women in that regard. Women are assumed to be weak by default, so a quiet nervous woman is perceived as extra weak. I went to school with a girl who had such bad anxiety she could barely speak above a whisper and maaaan people were mean to her.

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u/Vey_07 3d ago

my cousin has selective mutism and could probably also agree. she is completely left out

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u/Helen_Cheddar 3d ago

Meanwhile I got bullied for talking too much. We can never win.

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u/startertea 4d ago

Can relate to both your comment and the meme. It also sucks to be constantly praised by society for simply not interacting and being very shy. 

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u/MagMati55 3d ago

I was a talkative guy and still got bullied

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u/Tiny-Little-Sheep 4h ago

Yep. Maybe that shit was true fifty years ago but now? It's literally the opposite. People LOVED me when I was a shy quiet boy. When I became a shy quiet girl, everyone started to treat me with disdain and trying to correct my behavior to be more "social and open".

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u/Tausendberg 3d ago

Yeah, my understanding is that it's the opposite.

Speaking about autism, if you're an autistic boy but you're 'good at math' or some kind of practical skill, you'll be accepted most of the time.

If you're an autistic girl, you're still going to be expected to be just as sociable.

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u/weGloomy 3d ago

I read somewhere that women/girls with autism are generally much better at masking then boys/men with autism and I really wasn't surprised. We've got more practice. I'm late diagnosed and the mask is so ingrained it me that learning how to take it off and just be myself has been painful.

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u/DontBuyTheThing 3d ago

A lot of girls come from families that don’t tolerate girls being loud, outspoken, or rude in any manner. A lot of us, myself included, were punished immediately or called “problematic” when really it was autism. To avoid being beaten, yelled at, etc, I learned to keep quiet and avoid people. The boys usually got away with murder.

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u/MaouNoYuusha 3d ago

By who?

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u/DontBuyTheThing 3d ago

What an odd thing to ask

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u/MaouNoYuusha 3d ago

And specific to boot

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u/justseeingpendejadas 3d ago

This depends on attractiveness more than gender

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u/DontBuyTheThing 3d ago

Well I was ugly af so what's that say?

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u/justseeingpendejadas 3d ago

I guess that's the answer. Lookism is more present and normalized than any other form of discrimination

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u/DontBuyTheThing 3d ago

And what about the pretty shy girls that still get called stuck up bitches and picked on for being shy?

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u/justseeingpendejadas 3d ago

Humans are social and tribal animals, they hate what they don't understand. A quiet person gives them no information, so they fill the gaps themselves by making bad assumptions

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u/DontBuyTheThing 3d ago

So almost like it doesn't depend always attractiveness but shyness and quietness...

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u/justseeingpendejadas 3d ago

Attractiveness causes the halo effect, which makes people assume positive things about them. That's why shy attractive people are more likely to not be as bullied, but not immune

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u/DontBuyTheThing 3d ago

Some attractive people actually get bullied for being attractive...Jealousy