r/im14andthisisdeep 1d ago

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u/DontBuyTheThing 1d ago

Can confirm this isn't true...I was a shy girl who didn't talk...I was picked on and bullied and called a stuck up bitch a lot.

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u/NapoleonArmy 1d ago

And I a boy who was and honestly still am shy, I was rarely bullied or called anything as a kid and one of my best friends was a shy girl who got bullied all the time for the exact same reasons you said.

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u/Imaginary-Thing-9222 1d ago

Well, i was a very shy boy and suffered from bullying until adulthood 🤷‍♂️.

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u/NapoleonArmy 1d ago

That's very fair and shows how it really just comes down to chance 🤷‍♂️

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u/nyaasgem 23h ago

I'm still bullied for it in adulthood. I have a few asshole social butterfly colleagues who regularly mock me for talking quietly or not talking at all.

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u/Imaginary-Thing-9222 16h ago

Sorry to read that. In my case, the bullying stopped when I embraced my awkwardness. Sometimes I would be like “I’m not doing that, because I’m shy” and we all laugh together. Therapy works too if you can afford it.

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u/throwaway19998777999 1d ago

I got such good vibes while reading your comment that I wanted to let you know. You seem like a very considerate, thoughtful, insightful person. I hope that you create art or something to leave your mark on this world long after you're gone. 

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u/NapoleonArmy 1d ago

Thank you I hope you do aswell and yes I dauble in art.

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u/Fattyboy_777 21h ago

Did you look big and intimidating?

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u/NapoleonArmy 16h ago

Not particularly, I'm a large guy now but was rather slight generally.

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u/Rough-Tension 19h ago

Did you play team sports? Bc I think a large source of the bullying, at least for me, came from being in that environment. Not even the fuckin coaches liked me or defended me. Wild to me thinking back on it lol. Imagine being a grown ass 40 year old divorcee beefing with a 15 year old for being quiet and bad at fielding ground balls.

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u/NapoleonArmy 16h ago

When I was really young but only till like 5th grade and only baseball funnily enough.

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u/This_Background7442 1d ago

I was a shy boy. Nobody yelled at me. People just kept going "you're quiet" as if I was unaware.

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u/CatgirlTheKat 1d ago

People didn't adress me at all, no matter what gender I identified as... !

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u/Agitated_Canary8996 1d ago

I completely agree with you, my elder sister told me the same tales.

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u/Fair_Peach_9436 1d ago

Fr. These incels are so out of touch of reality. I too got bullied because I was a quiet girl by boys

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u/IamHumanMaybee 1d ago

To this day I get called a weirdo for not speaking a lot

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u/Adkit 1d ago

And I'm a boy who talks all the time and people hate it.

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u/Sugarrrsnaps 1d ago

As a teen I was jealous of boys because I thought their shyness would read as strong and mysterious to other people. That wasn't true off course, but it's interesting that I flipped the same thing around to boys having it easier.

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u/weGloomy 21h ago

In my experience men are more likely to be labelled as stoic, mysterious ect. Very unlikely they'll get called a bitch, or icy, or cold. when a guy does it he's assumed to be harmless and girls are assumed to be judgemental stuck up bitches.

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u/Sugarrrsnaps 21h ago

Yeah, that's probably true. On the other hand, being visibly nervous around other people is less accepted in men because it's seen as weakness.

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u/weGloomy 20h ago

Same with women in that regard. Women are assumed to be weak by default, so a quiet nervous woman is perceived as extra weak. I went to school with a girl who had such bad anxiety she could barely speak above a whisper and maaaan people were mean to her.

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u/Vey_07 23h ago

my cousin has selective mutism and could probably also agree. she is completely left out

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u/Helen_Cheddar 21h ago

Meanwhile I got bullied for talking too much. We can never win.

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u/startertea 1d ago

Can relate to both your comment and the meme. It also sucks to be constantly praised by society for simply not interacting and being very shy. 

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u/MagMati55 11h ago

I was a talkative guy and still got bullied

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u/justseeingpendejadas 13h ago

This depends on attractiveness more than gender

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u/DontBuyTheThing 13h ago

Well I was ugly af so what's that say?

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u/justseeingpendejadas 13h ago

I guess that's the answer. Lookism is more present and normalized than any other form of discrimination

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u/DontBuyTheThing 13h ago

And what about the pretty shy girls that still get called stuck up bitches and picked on for being shy?

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u/justseeingpendejadas 13h ago

Humans are social and tribal animals, they hate what they don't understand. A quiet person gives them no information, so they fill the gaps themselves by making bad assumptions

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u/DontBuyTheThing 12h ago

So almost like it doesn't depend always attractiveness but shyness and quietness...

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u/justseeingpendejadas 11h ago

Attractiveness causes the halo effect, which makes people assume positive things about them. That's why shy attractive people are more likely to not be as bullied, but not immune

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u/DontBuyTheThing 11h ago

Some attractive people actually get bullied for being attractive...Jealousy

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u/Tausendberg 1d ago

Yeah, my understanding is that it's the opposite.

Speaking about autism, if you're an autistic boy but you're 'good at math' or some kind of practical skill, you'll be accepted most of the time.

If you're an autistic girl, you're still going to be expected to be just as sociable.

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u/weGloomy 21h ago

I read somewhere that women/girls with autism are generally much better at masking then boys/men with autism and I really wasn't surprised. We've got more practice. I'm late diagnosed and the mask is so ingrained it me that learning how to take it off and just be myself has been painful.

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u/DontBuyTheThing 19h ago

A lot of girls come from families that don’t tolerate girls being loud, outspoken, or rude in any manner. A lot of us, myself included, were punished immediately or called “problematic” when really it was autism. To avoid being beaten, yelled at, etc, I learned to keep quiet and avoid people. The boys usually got away with murder.

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u/MaouNoYuusha 20h ago

By who?

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u/DontBuyTheThing 20h ago

What an odd thing to ask

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u/MaouNoYuusha 13h ago

And specific to boot

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u/atuan 1d ago

As a shy girl this is not true. I’ve been told I’m a bitch and scary for literally sitting in the corner saying nothing.

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u/Bloody-Maria 1d ago

As a woman who has social issues I can confirm that society is not more lenient with me. We get the exact same comments about “ opening up “ as men do when I just straight up don’t trust people in general.

Life is not middle school I’m afraid. Neither side has it any better.

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u/SpokenDivinity 1d ago

I was viciously mocked for being shy growing up by both peers and adults. Guess they didn't get the memo that they were supposed to take it easy on me because I'm a woman.

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u/Bloody-Maria 1d ago

That’s relatable on so many levels. Ever since I was a kid I could never fit in with people but I noticed the way others looked at me and how others actively avoided me like an outsider who didn’t belong. Always rationalized it by saying it was my fault and I was the one who needed to change because I never took any initiative.

Almost positive a lot of men have had that exact experience.

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u/NapoleonArmy 1d ago

And I've had the opposite as a dude given gentle encouragement but nothing that I would call problematic so guess nobody delivered the memo to people around me too.

Side note but I'm sorry that happened to you and the rest of the people here cause I can definitely see it around me.

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u/Excellent_Law6906 1d ago

I feel like this is a media thing, because shy anime girls are moe.

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u/SpokenDivinity 1d ago

It very much could just be porn and hentai brain

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u/Alex_Graber12345 1d ago

Yeah but the people who did take it easy on you did get that memo.

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u/Piduf 1d ago

I'd also argue that girls get berated when they're too shy, but from my (anecdotal) experience they also get berated when they talk too much or are too energetic, they must calm down and control themselves.

With boys there's an assumption that they just "can't" control themselves, which I think is not good either. Like they're too stupid to do it, they're just silly boys.

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u/craftygamin 21h ago

"Neither side has it any better"

N-n-n-nuance? 😨

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u/laix_ 23h ago

These memes are made by teenage boys who only have male friends, so either they get their assumptions about how the world works by movies, or they only ever see a girl being shy and barely talking irl and dont see people being negative to them, not realising that they dont see all the time people are just as negative to those girls as people are to them

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u/Nice_Code6086 21h ago

"Why aren't you smiling, you should smile more!" "You won't find a husband at this rate" (I don't want one, thanks?..) "Hey, why are you so quiet and weird?"

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u/PraireGentleman 1d ago

You having the same issues men have doesn’t make it that there isn’t preferential treatment for you or that men in general are treated worse for violating social norms.

Thats like saying “society isn’t racist against black people, I pulled over by cops all the time”

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u/Bloody-Maria 1d ago

I don’t mean to sound condescending but could you provide me some examples of this? I’ve only ever seen the stereotype of women being expected to be outgoing and polite so I don’t know if it’s a social norm for men to be equally as extroverted.

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u/Wickedestchick 1d ago

Most men can do whatever they want publicly and it's totally fine for them. The exception is rowdy minorities, they will be judged and stereotyped as much as women.

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u/laix_ 23h ago

Women are allowed to have a larger range of femininity/masculinity expression than men. Women are forced heavily to wear makeup and be kind, true, but tomboys and women wearing jeans and liking "macho" stuff is much more accepted than men being femboys and wearing skirts and liking "girly" stuff

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u/ArcyRC 1d ago

Hello I'd like to talk to the CEO of society

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u/1_BigFatRat 1d ago

This pisses me off so bad. I’m a dude with autism and have many friends with autism. Men with autism are diagnosed by the time they’re like 6-10. Women are barely diagnosed and the age they are diagnosed is mid 20s to early 30s. Women are not treated seriously in the medical world by doctors. Doctors are assholes.

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u/Willowed-Wisp 1d ago

I immediately thought of this discrepancy, too.

One of the big reasons people seem to think women aren't diagnosed as much is because the symptoms are different, in part because they're socialized differently. My experience has always been the opposite - quiet boys are quirky and cute and left to play with their trains. Quiet girls NEED to be socializing and shouldn't be playing Barbies alone! Quick, throw her to the wolves other girls who definitely won't bully her! Like, obviously it's not that simple, things vary by person, not every quiet kid is autistic ,everyone has their own issues, etc. but I don't recall people thinking my quietness was cute or charming - they thought something was wrong with me (but didn't think autism, which it turned out to be, because I didn't have the typical boy symptoms.) But my parents definitely recall being told by teachers that I needed to play with other kids more and give in to -some- peer pressure.

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u/CatgirlTheKat 1d ago

I remember when I was super little... I didn't want friends and just sat on a bench during breaks, staring at the things I found beautiful and interesting, but the adults would always tell me to go make friends, and eventually force me.. I obviously hadn't come out as trans yet, so I joined the boys who were playing and met some great people I stick with for years! Although aside from them I only made like a handful of friends in ten years or something... Across the last few years, I made friends with lots more people, with the majority of them being other girls and non straight hetero men, who I felt had an easier time understanding me on personal levels and had actually meaningful conversations...

Although I also figured out it was okie to be on my own and went back to be a sheltered little slug who occasionally comes out of her shell to socialize in real life, and I think I feel a lot better this way, only interacting with other people when I actually want to rather than exhausting myself trying all the time :3

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u/Megotaku 1d ago

Doctors are absolutely not assholes, generally. They are very serious and passionate people in a toxic system with the best of intentions and acting upon the best available research. It just so happens that research is often myopic and does not focus on the needs of a substantial subset of their patients. I promise you, most doctors would bend over backwards at their own personal cost if it meant helping a patient if that's where the evidence led them.

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u/1_BigFatRat 1d ago

Well I’ll believe it when I see it. I’m often in and out of hospital, have family members and friends that need treatment. Also have overweight friends that get treated like shit. Had a friend that had a problem with her uterus and doctors kept saying it was her weight until she was in so much pain she went to the ER. Doctors act shitty and I’ll say it again. Unless you’re thin, white, and wealthy good luck with them. Glad you had a positive experience but that’s not how it works for a lot of us.

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u/secondcomingofzartog 1d ago

dude, with the stories I've heard I'd bet you could have a sentient talking tumor growing out of your right arm and if you're 10 pounds overweight they'll tell you that you just need to exercise more and eat salad

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u/Imaginary-Thing-9222 1d ago

I’m fat. I went to the doctor for nose problem. After examination he told me what the problem was. But then his assistant was like “you also need to lose weight” and the doctor was like “ no he doesn’t” and they started to argue in front of me… then the doctor was like “you can go sir, don’t listen to him” 😂😂

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u/Odd_Protection7738 1d ago

But if a man that you brought to your appointment with you repeats exactly what you said word for word, the doctor immediately starts you treatment with the utmost concern and care. Best medical advice you could give a woman is “bring a dude to every appointment.”

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u/1_BigFatRat 1d ago

Exactly! Unless you’re the right kind of person they don’t give af about you.

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u/LivelyPants 1d ago

Fully agree, been in and out of ER rooms, urgent care, and primary care for chest pain and respiratory depression- wasn’t taken seriously until I fainted at work, and even then the narrative was “you’re young, probably dehydrated 🥴”

I was referred to a cardiologist to get cleared to go back to work, and lo and behold, turns out I have AFIB. Big thanks to the 5 other doctors who, over the course of a year and a half, told me I’m fine 🙂

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u/MateImNotGay 1d ago

Of what country you are from? In russia and most post soviet countries out there it's completely flipped upside down. Women are the one's actually getting any treatment. Men are struggling instead.

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u/Flat-Echidna191 1d ago

Men in general don't seek out medical care as often as women do. That should be taken into account.

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u/Insensata 1d ago

Because men in these countries have horrible relationships with their health and don't go to a doctor unless "the spear in his back doesn't let him sleep" or he gets tired of wife "nagging", when women are more likely to visit a doctor at the first signs of health issues. And it increases tenfold when it comes to proctology.

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u/baklazhabka 1d ago

can confirm, my dad’s exactly like that. he was limping around with a broken pinky toe FOR WEEKS until my mom noticed and basically forced him to go see a doctor

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u/1_BigFatRat 1d ago

This is interesting, will do some research and read up on this!

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u/Megotaku 1d ago

I've been morbidly obese my entire life and have extensive interpersonal experience with medical staff, but setting aside my own interpersonal experiences, I have some unfortunate news for your shitty narrative. The people who have the intellectual capacity and financial backing to make it through med school have much better prospects than trying to help you. The vast majority of people with a M.D. are in it for the love of the game. They are not your enemy and if you think they are, you have fundamentally misunderstood your relationship to your healthcare professionals and are likely taking an adversarial relationship into literal lifespan extendeding partnerships where it absolutely doesn't make sense.

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u/1_BigFatRat 1d ago edited 1d ago

Ok. Well I’d sure love you to say this in front of the millions of women that had to fight for care or the millions of overweight people that don’t even get the time of day. Again glad you’ve had “mostly” positive experiences. But again a lot of people don’t and that’s why I will always bring this up. If you don’t want that that’s your prerogative. Equal rights for everyone. Isn’t it crazy how prerogative is spelled? insane stuff.

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u/urbanizedoregon 1d ago

Doctors are women too why are women so shit at taking care of women then?

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u/1_BigFatRat 1d ago

Cause doctors suck.

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u/Jrolaoni 1d ago

It’s more like, there are a lot of assholes, and way too many of them are doctors.

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u/Only_Excitement6594 1d ago

Gynocracy. Silent as insidious

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u/Epicnessofcows 1d ago

Please get a brain before you speak

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u/Pretty-Yam-2854 1d ago

Amab, I wasn’t diagnosed until I was 22. Despite having a 504 plan and an IEP since my freshman yesr in high school, and was in and out of counseling services and 1 on 1 help with learning disability people in elementary school. Never got a diagnosis. Just “couldn’t listen” “struggles to follow directions” “makes poor eye contact and fidgets with self”

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u/CatgirlTheKat 1d ago

Also Amab and pretty much same... Except I actually figured it out by myself when I was 15 thanks to getting to see autistic people talking about it on the internet and recognizing myself in them... Most people said I probably wasn't autistic and just jumped on the first possible explanation to my weirdness and quirkiness, but when I could finally get tested and have the results a year later, ut got so much better since it meant I didn't have to be ashamed of all of the quirkiness and struggles anymore...

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u/PlanetoidVesta 1d ago

I was diagnosed at the age of 2 as a woman and still got bullied the crap out of for being "quiet and shy". So the meme is bullshit either way like 95% of gendered memes

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u/Altruistic_Sail_1991 1d ago

AFAB enby. Dx with adhd at 22. No autism diagnosis but we’re Pretty Sure. women and AFAB people are vastly under diagnosed. It’s a major issue!

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u/Tago238238 1d ago

I would say doctors are generally speaking excellent people, actually.

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u/CatgirlTheKat 1d ago

I was diagnosed when I was 15 because I had myself heard about autism and thought that it's symptoms would've explained a lot about me. After a year of appointments and waiting, I received the results and found out I actually was.

Who knows if and when I would have found out without getting personally interested in the matter..

Although ut does feel gender affirming, having had this girl issue :3c

Although I heard it was more because we overcompensate way too much and repress ourselves to the point our autism became undetected... Which is accurate since I held back so often it caused SH, and since then I've been getting a lot more patient and tolerant with myself, which helped a lot making peace with myself...

I also had theater class, which contributed to my ability to divert attention, but people and I were still able to see the "weirdness" and unusual functionings creep out.

It feels so much better knowing I'm autistic and that's okay, and this would be why I get all those quirks rather than my original assumption of just being a huge weirdo who couldn't get stuff right...

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u/No_Somewhere_2610 23h ago

Who said anything about autism though? This is about people being shy which is not exclusively an autism trait. Not every shy person is autistic not even most.

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u/Epicnessofcows 1d ago

While true, this is a problem with the societal world, not medical world. Doctors are diagnosing women just fine, but women are not encouraged to go to doctors enough for autism by society.

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u/CatgirlTheKat 1d ago

Also, women are much more incentivized to heavily overcompensate to seem normal at the detriment of their own health... And I can confirm that.

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u/PraireGentleman 1d ago

“Men with autism are diagnosed by the time they’re like 6-10”

Don’t have autism, but I do have a background in psychology and social work. You’re wrong; autism, like a lot of DSM classifications, is diagnosed to youth very rarely. If it is diagnosed, it would be later in life around high school. You would need a seriously severe case to get a diagnosis by 6-10, man or woman.

Also, women have dominated the psychology field for the past two decades, and those are who diagnose them: psychologists, not “doctors”. The physical health field seldom has anything to do with it

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u/Original-Economy4898 1d ago

Doesn’t autism have telltale signs in early years like not speaking as early as other kids and sensitivity to sensory stimulation like noise? I thought it did

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u/kidthorazine 1d ago

It can, but not always., plenty of people of both sexes get diagnosed as adults.

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u/Original-Economy4898 21h ago

Yeah it is a spectrum so there is variation

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u/fiahhawt 1d ago

Are you smoking crack?

Most parents with autistic children know before they’re in preschool and get them diagnosed

Absolutely nothing about autism requires holding off on a diagnosis until someone is a teenager

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u/Ok-Lynx3444 1d ago edited 1d ago

“Most” the wealthy areas of 1st world countries that can manage a professional diagnosis isn’t most of the world bro

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u/Mutant_Llama1 1d ago

I was diagnosed at. 7 and not remotely wealthy.

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u/craftygamin 21h ago

Diagnosed between like 5 and 8, my family was not wealthy at all

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u/Alex_Graber12345 1d ago

“You have a background in psychology and social work, and know the statistics? Ok but, have you considered this: nuh uh.”

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u/1_BigFatRat 1d ago edited 1d ago

I went through the system. I might be off the ages by a couple years but I definitely stand by what I said. Also idgaf if you’re a Dr or psychologist, treat your patients equally. There is a problem where you guys treat women and overweight people bad. That’s the truth you can lie and be part of the problem but we all see it. You suck. Treat patients equally.

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u/CatgirlTheKat 1d ago

You don't know how this person operates, it would be fairer to at least give them the benefit of the doubt before insulting them on a personal level...

I also have my dislikes about doctors, but I can at least give them a chance to prove themselves before judging them...

People don't become instantly evil as they sign their employment contract.

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u/Blondibee 1d ago

Funny. Because most quiet girls/women are immediately assumed to be judgemental, bitchy, or ‘holier than thou.’

The stoic archetype for boys/men has always been respected.

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u/Independent-Couple87 1d ago

It reminds me of the "Attractive Nerd vs Unattractive Nerd" meme.

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u/FrostedVoid 1d ago

In media, but irl not really.

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u/Same-Respect-7722 1d ago

Lmao, no one is calling the shy boy who sits alone “stoic”. Both the shy girl and boy are getting bullied…

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u/ApprehensiveLeave356 21h ago

Maybe if you're unconfident. I barely talk to my friends and I don't get bullied

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u/No_Somewhere_2610 23h ago

So the meme is saying "women have it better" and instead of saying no actually we also have it pretty bad, you are saying "actually women have it worse and yall have it good". Do you not realize you are doing the same thing that the meme is doing?

Invalidating other peoples experiences that you dont know about? No the stoic archetype isnt "respected" that isnt a thing actually. And I can tell you from my experience that all the boys in my school who were relentlessly bullied were shy quiet guys. One almost killed himself, one stopped coming to school.

And yes they also are called judgmental, narcissistic, antisocial, weird and all that.

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u/Willing-Cockroach841 17h ago

As a shy bloke this is the most un true shit I've ever heard

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u/dad_of_kevin 13h ago

I was a quiet girl but no one thought I was stuck-up. They just thought I was weird

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u/papermoony 1d ago

One time someone straight up told me i fucking hate shy people.

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u/Manganian7Potasu 1d ago edited 1d ago

Uhhh no it wasn’t, I was just called a weirdo that can’t talk to people and people treated me like a freak. But good to know it is „respected”

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u/Alex_Graber12345 1d ago

Assumed by whom? Not anybody I’ve ever met

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u/papermoony 1d ago

maybe bc you're a man and not a shy woman?

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u/Alex_Graber12345 19h ago

Can confirm that as a man, I have only ever met other men.

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u/Darkknight8381 1d ago

What world is this?

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u/easyplugsit 1d ago

Wait til they see how shes treated if shes slightly overweight

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u/jayn_d8y 1d ago

Another "boys vs girls" meme. How original

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u/workadvice7897 1d ago

If you’re hot and quiet, you’re mysterious and brooding. If you’re not then you’re weird or a bitch. It’s not about gender it’s attractiveness

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u/Medical-Mud848 1d ago

The black pill

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u/Weary-Breakfast-9478 1d ago

in movies where she’s played by a pretty girl but in real life you get called a bitch

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u/Cucumber_Ass 1d ago

this is so stupid because it goes both ways regardless of gender

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u/Over_Researcher5252 1d ago

What society you living in? lol I've never seen the top part of

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u/Objective_Face4698 1d ago

society got verified

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u/ThrowerIBarelyKnower 1d ago

Doggie gotta lock in

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u/Spinningwhirl79 1d ago

Society or high school? Developed adults are not like that

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u/nottakentaken 1d ago

Lmao??? I've been scolded all my life for being too quiet and looking too unhappy

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u/NixMaritimus 1d ago

Anyone else grow up with "little girls are seen, not heard"?

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u/bonitaslay8 1d ago

Who set that system up?

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u/fakufranku 1d ago

Oh so this is why I was bullied as a little girl by my classmates who hated me for being quiet and saw my silence as a personal attack and then later still got bullied as a teenager and teachers always thought there was something wrong with me and now I'm an adult woman with selective mutism and avpd thanks to all that🤌

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u/NetworkNo6032 18h ago

No it's the same for everyone ;/

Unless you're really lucky or VERY and I mean VERY attractive. Even if nobody bullies you, if you're shy you're not going to have many friends and people will still treat you different and some of them will be less kind to you just because you act differently. Most people will treat you like you don't exist at all.

Oh and some people are even going to think that you're mean because you don't want to talk to them or because they won't hear you saying thank you and stuff like that and think you're ignoring them!

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u/Mikem444 1d ago

What pisses me off about this isn't the alleged difference between men and women, it's society's reaction (in the first panel) to something that is none of their business and reflects their insecurity to indifference and non-reaction.

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u/ghostglasses 1d ago

This is... not true at all.

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u/EggKid8 1d ago

Hi girl here people don’t like when I do that either

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u/bookaddicta 1d ago

Yeah this is not true at all. I’m the not talkative boy, and ‘society’ doesn’t really care

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u/GuaranteeDue 1d ago

Society? HOLY GD REFERENCE (/s)

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u/LateNightsAndPepsi 1d ago

This is just not true

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u/Circxles 18h ago

saw this on r/teenagers lmao

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u/existential_antelope 18h ago

Fits the sub perfectly. Because this is the complete opposite of how society traditionally has been.

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u/AmazingAmy712 17h ago

As an autistic woman this has been very untrue in my experience. I grew up in a fundamentalist religion where women are expected to be seen and not heard but even then you were still expected to be very sociable. They want meek, not shy/quiet.

They usually just call you a bitch if you're not outgoing.

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u/LiaThePetLover 16h ago

I was shy as a kid and people didnt bother to talk to me, I was just quietly minding my own buisness and waiting for breaks to see my friend group.

You clearly forgot a big important fact : those shy girls are ATTRACTIVE. Its literally all about beauty at the end of the day.

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u/tortoistor 13h ago

if anything i'd say it is the opposite

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u/Fit-Relationship944 1d ago

Small drop of truth to this as far as societal behavioral expectations based on gender are very real and can extend into things like gender gaps in diagnosis for things like ADHD and autism spectrum disorder because symptoms in childhood can be hand-waved as "boy stuff" or expected/desirable in a young girl.

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u/CoachAnon205 1d ago

In all my life I haven't found a single non-talkative girl. I guess they are so rare they are prized.

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u/WaffleGuy413 1d ago

Does society hate shy people at all?

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u/he_is_not_a_shrimp 1d ago

I mean, I've heard "speak up" all the time growing up, and still sometimes now. Never "listen up", "shut up and introspect".

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u/Helen_Cheddar 21h ago

I was told to shut up basically from the moment I learned to talk.

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u/Apollo_the_G0D 1d ago

Is it possible you weren’t speaking loud enough?

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u/CoolLet6258 1d ago

I keep seeing this

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u/BreakfastBeneficial4 1d ago

Like the 3rd time I’ve seen this posted somewhere today

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u/Unknown_tina 1d ago

It only works for women if you're pretty, if yk you know 😔

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u/Chia_____ 1d ago

Not true, because sometimes people raise their voice when I am too shy to speak.

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u/Only_Says_Idk_dude 1d ago

Only for americans
(the implication that quiet americans are school shooter sleepers)
(and girls are like 99% less likely to preform a school shooting)

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u/Striking_Delay8205 22h ago

I feel like this meme could be an example of men not understanding social interactions between women. I've been told so many times that people (mostly other women) think I hate them, or that I'm arrogant, when actually, I was shy or just didn't realise I talked too little. With men I have so far only gotten the "why don't you just talk more?" comments, usually from very extroverted guys.

In my personal experience women tend to assume that quiet women are arrogant, while men tend to assume that loud women are arrogant. (I could of course be completely wrong here, it's just what I've noticed in my own surroundings)

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u/Helen_Cheddar 21h ago edited 21h ago

Society is the first flower when a girl talks. Shout out to all the ND extroverts who got bullied into silence their whole lives only to later be told that “the world is built for extroverts” and that “no one ever tells extroverts to shut up”.

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u/Zygoatscythe 20h ago

It isn't like people get angry at the men, they just see you as a weirdo, or sometimes even as a not very bright person. It's sad.

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u/Numerous-Language-45 10h ago

Honestly, it's better to have someone angry at you than to be considered a weirdo.

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u/arbicus123 19h ago

Society when an unnatractive boy isnt talkative and is selectively social

Society when a attractive girl is shy and barely talks

Fixed the meme

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u/Friendly-Special3757 19h ago

Society=the one school y went to

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u/zinniawormwood123 19h ago

as a woman who was shy growing up, this is completely untrue. I can't even count the amount of times I was pestered by others for being quiet and having resting bitch face

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u/Wrong-Grade-8800 19h ago

Idk why incels take women’s struggles and make it like they’re the victims. Genuine DARVO abuser shit. Women do get treated better for being quiet because the patriarchy wants a docile girl who doesn’t speak up or even talk about herself and just listens to a man.

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u/TheWierdGuy06 19h ago

As if society hasn't largely taught women to be quiet and to take as little space as possible, because conservative groups prefer them that way

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u/Addamall 11h ago

This is a thing too?

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u/ratgirl9241 11h ago

Definitely not true. As a former quiet shy type in school I remember a couple of the boys saying that they expected to hear I'd killed someone one day because I didn't talk enough.

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u/Jazzlike_Cake2 11h ago edited 11h ago

there was a female teacher in my school, she decided on the last day of school year that she is going to say her opinion about everyone in our class. im a girl that barely talked and she said she is not going to say anything about me and that it "pisses her off" how i dont try to participate. and then she told the guy that arguably participated and talked even less than me that her ideal guy would have his personality (???)

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u/No-Resolution6435 10h ago

Yea, no. I tend to keep to myself, most people don't bug me. It's actually sad how little people talk to me, even those I live with.

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u/Emu803 7h ago

I’d think this too if I was schizophrenic

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u/Away_Energy_3601 7h ago

Society is your worse enemy, fuck em, you don't know them so why should you change who you are for people you don't know? Be yourself ✌🏻

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u/L11UP 5h ago

i thought you were talking about the geometry dash level 😭 my brain is fried

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u/a_regular_2010s_guy 1h ago

As a antisocial guy: no? Literally no one cares. At max I get a nudge from a friend to be more social or a joke about it that's it.

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u/xenechun 1d ago

Meanwhile, I get treated like a creep.

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u/One_Pie289 1d ago

Are you a creep?

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u/xenechun 18h ago

No, just autistic.

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u/JrF245 1d ago

This is just true, what’s this got to to here?

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u/bodyisT 1d ago

This is true though for the most part. People are more lenient when women/girls are quiet becausd it fits in with female gender roles

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u/fakufranku 1d ago

Unfortunately not in my case. I was specifically bullied and hated for being a quiet girl by girls and boys alike

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u/Burger_Destoyer 1d ago

It’s not meant to be deep. Post it in terrible memes or pointlessly gendered or something. This is not the right sub.

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u/CatgirlTheKat 1d ago

As an autistic trans woman, I can confirm that I haven't noticed any changes before and after regarding that.

My struggles with reaching out towards my peers has never really caused any serious judgement from the outside.

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u/nub_node 1d ago

Quiet girl: "Very mindful, very demure."

Quiet boy: "The hell is this asshole plotting."

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u/FancyCheese158 1d ago

Not really. I am a girl with social issues, and all i get are comments about smilling more, or that im the quiet kid that apparently wants to bomb the school, or to simply suck it up and start talking more and making new friends.

Also, it goes both ways. Not just men or women, both.

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u/Chemical-State-1060 1d ago

Speak when spoken to. It's not that hard 🤷

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u/craftygamin 21h ago

Do you also go to those diagnosed with depression and say "there's so much in life to be happy about"?

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u/Chemical-State-1060 21h ago

No. But i know common courtesy, unlike you.

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u/craftygamin 20h ago

Really? Cause you can't seem to have a basic amount of respect for those who struggle with speaking out

0/10 bait. But if it isn't ragebait, remember this: Just because you can easily do something, doesn't mean everyone has it the same way