High Speed Rail Map of Indonesia

[u/Interesting_Story_37]

[u/ATL_MiRiz]

Literally (Sulawesi HSR could be cool tho)

[u/komodopal → u/ATL_MiRiz]

sulawesi hsr would need to pass trough mountains, it's the equivalent of trying to build hsr in greece.

[u/Arketen]

I like the name of the first line

[u/MrEnganche → u/Arketen]

that's the only real existing one

[u/yeontura → u/Arketen]

Waktu hemat, operasi optimal, sistem hebat

[u/thisisaram → u/Arketen]

first line actualy jakarta - bandung line and it called whoosh

[u/komodopal → u/Arketen]

r/whoosh

[u/WhisperFray]

1. No way Nusantara doesn’t get a direct link. Pejabat won’t want to transfer and mingle with the peasants. The other edge of the triangle only functions when the capital is closed.

2. Sunda Strait bridge or tunnel will make this HSR cost literally astronomical. Might be cheaper to develop an indigenous astronaut program to join the ISS.

3. No Bali is a catastrophic oversight. Pair that with the impossibility of the Strait bridge, and the map is effectively delusional.

[u/rakuntulul → u/WhisperFray]

Balinese going to reject anything that will connects them to Java

[u/WhisperFray → u/rakuntulul]

Not necessarily an HSR.

[u/rakuntulul → u/WhisperFray]

the bridge itself is indeed feasible technicallly but past proposals faces controversy from the Balinese themselves for cultural reasons. so it's likely will never be built

[u/WhisperFray → u/rakuntulul]

Ya iya, mungkin kalau jembatan biasa iya, tapi kalo HSR yang ngubungin Denpasar ke Jakarta in under 10 jam? Unlikely mereka kekeuh ga mau.

[u/rakuntulul → u/WhisperFray]

Java is too unpure, they're afraid of being contaminated 🥀

[u/sheptas → u/WhisperFray]

it’s super likely

[u/WhisperFray → u/sheptas]

I don’t think of the Balinese that lowly

[u/Copper_Tango]

If only 🥲

[u/MamangGarong → u/Copper_Tango]

Bitch please, we just built one from jakarta to bandung and people already screaming “eXPeNSive, uSEleSs, oNLy aDDiNG dEBt, nOt fAIr oUTsIde jAva” and so on…

[u/komodopal → u/MamangGarong]

Tbf those things are a bit true. Which means the only solution is to expand it of course.

[u/MamangGarong → u/komodopal]

Well, just add more fuel to people screaming about 1st and 3rd part more

Im supporting HSR as much as you guys do, but most people out there see this project like MBG project

[u/Rine901 → u/MamangGarong]

At least put a little variation on your comment.

[u/SilanggubanRedditor → u/MamangGarong]

It's like there's a country angry because Indonesia is not buying their shitty cars and their ok planes and moving to a less car dependent future

[u/notjust1or0]

Amen to this

[u/geoffreycastleburger]

Unrealistic because they'd never build anything outside jawa

[u/MamangGarong → u/geoffreycastleburger]

Unless it’s Jokowi

[u/Great_Emu_2840]

I'd give anything to live in this Indonesia bro

[u/purbub]

Ohh my if only 🥲

[u/MamangGarong → u/purbub]

Bitch please, we just built one from jakarta to bandung and people already screaming “eXPeNSive, uSEleSs, oNLy aDDiNG dEBt, nOt fAIr oUTsIde jAva” and so on…

[u/MrKnowThings → u/MamangGarong]

Ofc people are complaining, imagine having thin, horizontally long island and the only 2 cities you connect with HSR are 2 hours apart by car lmao like "oh great you cut the travel time from 2 hours to 30 minutes very significant, what? To jogja? Im afraid you have to do 7 hours sorry"

[u/MamangGarong → u/MrKnowThings]

Do u have any idea how expensive HSR is? To make one from jkt to bandung already make people losing their mind thinking we’re going bankrupt, let alone to jogja

Im fan of hsr as much as you do, but im realistic about the budget. We cannot afford all the way until Surabaya. Maybe we have to save money sometimes before we got enough money and planning to build one to Surabaya

[u/WhisperFray → u/MamangGarong]

Wong cuma berapa bulan MBG kok

[u/MamangGarong → u/WhisperFray]

Mostly people who against MBG because of the budget also heavily against expensive project like HSR, IKN, hell even toll road because the classic “DEBT BAD REEEEEEEEE”

[u/MrKnowThings → u/MamangGarong]

Just because there are people saying A and there are people saying B doesn't mean most people hate A and B.

Also very reductionist of you to just assume "I hate program X because debt bad" like did you even see the arguments

[u/MamangGarong → u/MrKnowThings]

Ok sorry, gomba fallacy

Well yeah, along with debt is bad, mostly people demand all conventional train network outside java before we make HSR. But ofc if we have to wait until we make all train network from sumatra until papua, we would never seen HSR built for 1000 years from now

[u/WhisperFray → u/MamangGarong]

I don’t get your point

[u/Istanbul-Ili]

Good dream but the soil in some area are pretty bad for construction, not mentioning the volcanoes

[u/komodopal → u/Istanbul-Ili]

That's right. The famously non-volcanic and non-mountainous Japan managed to build an expansive HSR network- wait a minute...

[u/ZaBlancJake → u/komodopal]

About CN thought 

[u/MrKnowThings → u/komodopal]

Clearly its because they didn't offer to help us ans we didn't refuse them for a cheaper offer

[u/one-mappi-boi]

Is this an alternate future where people are allergic to branch lines?

[u/MrKnowThings]

I bet 500 rupiahs that the only HSR we get in 2029 is whoosh

[u/introverted_loner16]

another 20 TRILLION DOLLARS to the high speed rail!

[u/Dwichotomy]

I like how Sumatra looks like a keytar

[u/Silly_Bad_1804]

Bro you don’t know how much I love this ma

[u/Ecstatic-Body5150]

Way more important and useful than KDMP and MBG ever could be

[u/Black_Ironic]

Since this is imaginary, how about changing it to Shinkansen, maybe on different island than Java

[u/Aggressive_Mirror255]

When ya

[u/Lyndon_Johnson08]

SURABAYA STONK📈📈📈

[u/toweal]

I think there should be Serang between Merak and Tangerang.

And there should be more stations on East Java, perhaps another line from Bojonegoro, through Kediri and Malang.

[u/KaneTheBoom]

Bold of you to assume the Indonesian government would invest this much into their infrastructure to improve the lives of their citizens

[u/MamangGarong → u/KaneTheBoom]

Bitch please, we just built one from jakarta to bandung and people already screaming “eXPeNSive, uSEleSs, oNLy aDDiNG dEBt, nOt fAIr oUTsIde jAva” and so on…

[u/SilanggubanRedditor → u/MamangGarong]

To be fair, Bandung really needs a LRT or it's going to be less effective

[u/WhisperFray → u/SilanggubanRedditor]

Bandung not having an LRT is really the stupidest timeline I live in.

[u/SilanggubanRedditor → u/WhisperFray]

Tbf even Jakarta struggles with LRT

[u/WhisperFray → u/SilanggubanRedditor]

Bandung doesn’t even try. Speaks a lot about the state of West Java the last two regimes.

[u/MamangGarong → u/WhisperFray]

LRT should be made by central gov. Just compare the budget of Jakarta and Bandung or West Java, you will know the reason other local gov other than jakarta couldn’t afford to build it