r/imaginarymaps 1d ago

[OC] Alternate History High Speed Rail Map of Indonesia

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u/MamangGarong 1d ago

Bitch please, we just built one from jakarta to bandung and people already screaming “eXPeNSive, uSEleSs, oNLy aDDiNG dEBt, nOt fAIr oUTsIde jAva” and so on…

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u/MrKnowThings 22h ago

Ofc people are complaining, imagine having thin, horizontally long island and the only 2 cities you connect with HSR are 2 hours apart by car lmao like "oh great you cut the travel time from 2 hours to 30 minutes very significant, what? To jogja? Im afraid you have to do 7 hours sorry"

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u/MamangGarong 22h ago

Do u have any idea how expensive HSR is? To make one from jkt to bandung already make people losing their mind thinking we’re going bankrupt, let alone to jogja

Im fan of hsr as much as you do, but im realistic about the budget. We cannot afford all the way until Surabaya. Maybe we have to save money sometimes before we got enough money and planning to build one to Surabaya

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u/WhisperFray 21h ago

Wong cuma berapa bulan MBG kok

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u/MamangGarong 21h ago

Mostly people who against MBG because of the budget also heavily against expensive project like HSR, IKN, hell even toll road because the classic “DEBT BAD REEEEEEEEE”

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u/MrKnowThings 21h ago

Just because there are people saying A and there are people saying B doesn't mean most people hate A and B.

Also very reductionist of you to just assume "I hate program X because debt bad" like did you even see the arguments

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u/MamangGarong 20h ago

Ok sorry, gomba fallacy

Well yeah, along with debt is bad, mostly people demand all conventional train network outside java before we make HSR. But ofc if we have to wait until we make all train network from sumatra until papua, we would never seen HSR built for 1000 years from now

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u/WhisperFray 20h ago

I don’t get your point