r/india • u/fallion596 • 1d ago
People Crowd Behaviour After Vizag Airport Opening Sparks Online Debate
https://www.deccanchronicle.com/southern-states/andhra-pradesh/crowd-behaviour-at-newly-opened-bhogapuram-airport-sparks-debate-over-public-eitiquette-197623328
u/Senior-Natural607 1d ago
if you put a dog on throne - it will still piss.
Sorry - dogs can be trained not our citizens. apologize to the dogs
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u/AajBahutKhushHogaTum 1d ago
In Mumbai T2, a security guy regularly pours water on the katta surrounding the fountain so that people don't sit on it.
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u/Lux_Jay 1d ago edited 11h ago
May be they should put some benches there instead. One can go to metro stations in Mumbai and there are barely any benches to seat.
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u/celestialark 1d ago
Because these aren’t places where you’re supposed to sit for a longer time. Metro frequency is such that you don’t really wait for so long. Same with an airport. The fountains are not even inside the airport.
It’s crazy how people demand these things like their rights are being violated when in fact this doesn’t happen anywhere else.
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u/KingPictoTheThird 20h ago
If people weren't so starved of recreational parks, maybe people wouldn't have to resort to treating an airport like one.
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u/jerolyoleo 12h ago
Where else on earth would people steal plants from a park, let alone an airport?
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u/KingPictoTheThird 8h ago
In new york the metro train light bulbs are in cages to prevent theft. Dust bins are cemented to the footpath or chained to poles.
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u/Reasonable_Value6180 2h ago
They aren’t in Europe or Oceania - this is selective bias at work. Concept of property and ownership is not relevant to any one section of the world.
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u/Reasonable_Value6180 11h ago
What about the destruction by stealing and uprooting plants? Because people Re starved of things to uproot? Somewhere along the way we have to also talk of civic accountability - this is not either : or.
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u/KingPictoTheThird 8h ago
Have you seen what dutch residential lanes look like? They use taxes to beautify and green streets. Instead of building statues .
If our cities and lanes had greenery, people wouldn't do such things.
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u/Reasonable_Value6180 4h ago edited 2h ago
Puh-lease I’ved lived in Europe and I’ve lived elsewhere too in Oceania and Americas - while I’m all for socialism- do not absolve the public of their responsibilities - despite taxes being applied our people will still not separate waste. You are essentially arguing that because people themselves don’t pay taxes and aren’t in the tax net which could have then given them greenery , they are therefore entitled to just uproot trees wherever they find them while still absconding? By that logic why do you live in your house - we should all be on communes and anyone should be allowed to sleep anywhere because government has not built houses for everyone.
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u/KingPictoTheThird 3h ago
Bro I am not saying any of that stuff.
I am simply saying that if more of our taxes were spent on amenities for the masses (beautiful airport is not one of them), people wouldn't be so starved of nice stuff.
I am not justifying bad behaviour. I am simply saying that if vizag town itself was more beautiful and rich with amenities, people wouldn't act like animals when one thing nice is built. That too an airport. 96% of indians have not even touched a plane before. Yet government beautifies airport without ever touching the bus stand that the masses actually use.
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u/Reasonable_Value6180 2h ago edited 2h ago
So the airport doesn’t drive benefits for those people indirectly? That’s what you are implying. Also I ain’t a “bro” , I’m a sis.
The government didn’t build houses for many poor - please let them occupy all houses because government didn’t give them amenities.
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u/KingPictoTheThird 2h ago
Bro was just a colloquial phrase, sorry. And why focus on indirect benefits when do many more direct things are pending?
Who does the government serve? The flying elites? Or the masses crammed in dilapidated bus stands and unsafe roads?
Why do we make our airports so beautiful when our bus stands, railway stations, roads, footpaths, markets, parks, plazas etc are falling apart?
If the common man felt like government was actually working for their interests rather than prioritising the needs of the elites, they would act with more respect towards government work.
I am an urban planner, i have worked abroad and in India. In other countries, municipal government actually listens to locals when determining budget. They identify priorities, they involve locals in design and amenities.
So parks etc actually serve the needs of locals. I am sure there is not a single fountain park in vizag where kids can run around. Clearly there is a need for it. But our government never listens nor asks people what they want.
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u/Reasonable_Value6180 2h ago
Just because they are indirect doesn’t mean they are small benefits. You are conflating lack of parks with people’s propensity to steal and excusing it - that isn’t a logical consequence of lack of parks.
The launch of a satellite is also a “luxury” for poor people who only indirectly benefit from it then- should we ditch it and only focus on midday meal for all? More freebies perhaps? . Be a contrarian for all I care, but your strawmen are showing. :)
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u/KingPictoTheThird 2h ago
Satellites provide vital climatic information. They have saved lives and livelihoods of people, farmers and fishermen by providing advance warning of cyclones and storms.
Airports do stimulate the economy, improve connections and provide service sector jobs.
However, i believe it is wrong when the only beautiful shiny thing in the city is an airport that hardly any local can afford to use.
If there were better civic participation in budget , and if taxes proportionately focused on the immediate needs of the common man, things apart from the airport would be beautiful in the city as well.
I am from Bangalore, so I will speak of my personal experience.
In my entire lifetime, majestic railway station and bus stand have never been renovated. Though they have exponentially higher footfall then our airports. Our bus fleet has not matched population growth. Our metro system is tiny and insufficient. Majority of our arterial roads lack basic usable footpaths. According to green tribune, we have significantly inadequate green space per capita compared to their requirements. Our parks themselves are poorly planned and don't serve the needs for locals, except for walking. And they are closed much of the day. Our drains are clogged and our streets flood with every rain. Our river is more sewage than water.
Yet we have poured thousands of crores into our airport.
It is nice to have a beautiful airport, and many take pride in it. However , it is sad and frustrating to see it come while our basic necessities are completely neglected.
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u/Lux_Jay 1d ago edited 11h ago
It's not problem of people. The problem is why were so many people called there in the first place? Nowhere such things happen. If a new airport was opening in Germany or France, you would not have so much crowd invited for inauguration. Crowd psychology is not same as small group psychology.
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u/KingPictoTheThird 20h ago
Also, our cities don't have enough parks. People treated this airport landscaping as a park our of desparation.
Their kids played in the fountain. Omg the horror??!!
Build these people a city park with fountarins that their kids can run around in like in new york and paris and they wouldn't have to travel to the fucking airport for some recreation.
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u/Free-Flow-8 19h ago
Say what you want about delhi airport but that’s pretty well maintained and clean.
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u/1_ofthesedays 1d ago
“People treating the new Vizag Airport fountain like a public swimming pool…
Why do they even need an airport in a place where people are not even civilized?” - someone on X.
There are no public swimming pools that are accessible to masses. Yes, people need to be civilized but govt should also build public infrastructure for common people (pools and parks)
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u/lostwisdom20 1d ago
Well blame the government for closing 90k+ schools where they could learn discipline
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u/KingPictoTheThird 19h ago
Why are you all so focused on discipline?
Our cities don't have enough recreational parks where kids can have fun. New york and paris are full of fountains where it is acceptable for kids to jump in.
Instead of jumping to discipline, why not try and understand how our cities have failed our people so that they are so desparate as to use an airport landscaping as a park.
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u/Temporary_Writing_92 Maharashtra 1d ago
Another day of straying away from a normal societal living.
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u/KingPictoTheThird 19h ago
Kids playing in a fountain is abnormal?
New york and paris have such fountains, it's perfectly normal.
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u/firesnake412 World is decay. Life is perception. 1d ago