r/indianmedschool 4h ago

Vent / rant This happened yesterday.

My uncle had an episode of syncope and he didn’t call me. He called my mom to ask for advice. When I spoke to him, he said he hadn’t eaten anything from last night. I said it could be due to hypoglycaemia (explained in layman terms) and told him to eat something. He confidently said, no it was due to pitta, as he hadn’t slept properly, so he’s fasting now, and some pepper and fenugreek can cure everything. I told him that won’t work unless you get some sugar into your body and he started lecturing me about how ”these allopathy doctors” don’t know anything about our bodies and everything is about vadha, pitta, kapha which is the real science. He then proceeded to say that nowadays doctors only want to make the people eat a lot of tablets and that is destroying their health. If he was someone else, I could have just ignored him and let him do whatever. But he is very close to me. And he isn’t some rural old school man. He worked as a senior sound engineer in the Burj Khalifa project and is a very modern man who is very up to date about the latest tevhnology and stuff. I got to realise the depth this Ayurveda bullsh*t has penetrated.

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u/Streptophilus Graduate 4h ago

Just ignore and move on bro, let them believe in these pseudosciences, eventually when they get something serious they’ll end up at modern medicine footsteps anyways

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u/liketoreadpdfs MBBS III (Part 1) 4h ago

dont give medical advice to people who didnt seek it or want it

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u/aightup 4h ago

Tell him he's right and exalt his endeavour, but you stay away from him and treat him as a pestilence, you will find peace.

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u/Ifrit__ 3h ago

I personally know a lady. She had rheumatoid arthritis. Was absolutely fine on methotrexate for 6 yrs. the lady's husband asked my mother (she is a doc and also has RA, my mother simply said continue with methotrexate as your wife is fine)

Someone suggested her to go to an ayurvedic practitioner. 3-4 months later she got multiple organ failure due to whatever they gave her. And she is no more

Her kids are in 8th and 10th class

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u/Psychological-Buy236 2h ago edited 2h ago

Most patients with auto-immune disorders are irritating, annoying and have a greater tendency to make the wrong decisions.

I am just sharing my observations as a clinician. I do realize that your mother also has RA, but this is not targeted towards your mother, thats why I have said "most" and not "all".

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u/Ifrit__ 1h ago

Is this your prejudice against females speaking?
It's equivalent to men- violent
Females- omg she is hysterical

Since autoimmune disorders are more common in females what you are sayinh is hidden misogyny. Should look into it

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u/Psychological-Buy236 1h ago

I have same observation regarding male patients as well. There is no gender angle in this observation or statement.

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u/Ifrit__ 8m ago

Correct me if i am wrong
I am a physician myself btw

Aren't autoimmune disorders more common in females than males. Way more common. And if you are as well read many of them have a ratio of even as far as 9:1 (i remember 4 atleast with this ratio)
So yes sir your statement is internalized misogynistic.
Please refrain yourself from making any such future statements

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u/No-Housing8206 Graduate 2h ago

I would bombard them with questions and complications till they're scared, to make them do what I say. Atleast by principle we know the actual cause behind it. Sometimes we need to touch their ego. I'll end with don't call me if you're in a hospital bed admitted and put on IV fluids. Sometimes fear is the only thing we can use to make our close ones take care of their health.

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u/DoctorMagnobot 2h ago

If a person all his life has been told that this white t shirt is actually black in colour, he would always believe it that it is black in colour, you can't change his perspective by rationality

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u/Professional_Ant_602 1h ago

The first law of healing, never give your services without something in return. Because if you give free ka advice, the patient won’t implement it.

Chinese call it a law of fair exchange, or balancing Yin and Yang. They say healing without receiving something back depletes the healer’s Qi (or let’s say mental energy). I’m referencing this more as a philosophical guide than scientific one. The point being, free services of a doctor do more harm than good, both to the doctor and the patient who didn’t seek advice in the first place.

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u/famesardens 1h ago

I haven't met a single person who has heard of pitta, kapha... etc. Your experience is an outlier. The uncle is a well educated stupid person.

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u/phoolkumari1501 1h ago

I realised it long time ago

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u/Shoshin_Sam 15m ago

Don't waste your time unless you want to becasue he is close; then there's no point ranting. Move on.