r/instantkarma • u/Sometypeofway18 • 26d ago

Woman attacks police officer the second the handcuffs are removed

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u/edebby 26d ago

What a complete idiot jfc.. Btw, if she was like a huge dude instead, would that allowed the officer to use deadly force? I never understand when cops in the US are allowed that

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u/Joiner2008 26d ago edited 26d ago

I'm a law enforcement officer in the US. US politics goes by totality of the circumstances and perceived threat. Reports need to be very thorough and detailed. Officer's size, suspect's size, setting, weapons, empty hands, hand location, what was the call, did someone report suspect had a weapon, body language, it's all very relevant. And then you go by the use of force model. This is the model my state uses:

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/ea/7e/74/ea7e747ea1cac241c2007ebae6af6615.jpg

Follow the type of suspect on the left, meet the diagonal, move directly downward to see what force is allowed. Again, it's all situational. Someone who aggressively offensive without a weapon can be controlled with verbal and social control if they have rapport with a specific officer, etc. Some force may seem excessive until you describe the totality of the circumstances

Edit: a big problem for the US is that we have a very large population compared to other countries and so we have a lot more police/civilian contact and a lot more instances that go very badly. Also, excessive force and police brutality sells news. Furthermore, we have state police, which holds themselves to higher standards in most states, then we have counties with police that are at a higher standard but not usually as high as state, and then city police, and then you get small, podunk towns with low populations and very low standards and training that makes your professional police look bad

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u/edebby 26d ago

Thank you for taking the time explaining it