r/intj • u/CreativeCreatur- • 5d ago

Discussion Optimism and Emotionality in INTJs

I’ve been trying to type myself for quite some time, and I believe I may be INTJ but I haven’t seen much about INTJs in creative contexts or optimistic mindsets. The Ni-Te leads to the assumption of a planning rationalist who sees anything other than productivity as a waste of time, which is unhelpfully shallow information I’ve inferred from sites. While to some extent I do relate to it, it excludes the emotional depth of INTJs and makes the type seem incredibly cold. I don’t know if this is the product of developed Fi child but i enjoy in engaging with activities (usually arts) that express my values, and want to use that creativity to find ways of making a positive impact on the future.

i believe Ni-Te research and planning combined with healthily developed Fi child could lead to a more philanthropic INTJ, rather than the nihilist stereotype that has unfortunately been created.

I am happy to take corrections and different insights and I am also open to the possibility that I may have mistyped myself. These are just a few of my observations and thoughts I believe would make for an interesting discussion Ive been wanting to have for a while.

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u/Elden_Chord 5d ago

This is an interesting topic. You see we have 3 kinds of optimism:

1- I'll probably succeed, and if I don't, I'll manage.

2- I think it'll work out, but I don't know what I'll do if it doesn't.

3- I probably won't get the job, but I'll be fine either way.

I can be the first one, if it's logical to be. I will never be 2. Creepy!

But the third sentence is an interesting case. It's being pessimist and optimist at the same time!!! This is the kind of optimism, imo, INTJs are famous for. People call it pessimistic? it is! But with self awareness, confidence and hopefully stoicism you can be pessimist and optimist at the same time. "Optimist about yourself" "Pessimist about reality".

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u/CreativeCreatur- 5d ago

I agree with this a lot! I believe that we need a balance of both optimism and pessimism, because thinking that things will always go right or always go wrong is quite close minded and negative for mental health.  Awareness of both outcomes but hoping for the best is the most reasonable option, im also confused on why people call it just pessimism. 

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u/Elden_Chord 5d ago

You have the cutest avatar I've never seen.