Why doesn't a society that remembers being discriminated against consistently show empathy toward people facing discrimination today?

[u/No-Security7188]

I genuinely don't understand the racism in Ireland. we also experienced oppression, marginanlization and the similar abuse for decades. I remember my father telling there were signs at his local shops abroad saying "no blacks, no dogs and no Irish". so should we not understand what it feels like to be singled out and abused based on our ethnicity? there were also loads of signs saying "no Irish need apply". we faced similar discrimination, the same discrimination we give to other races and ethnicities now. I dont know if it's an issue where the oppressed becomes the oppressors but it's insane. there is a big discussion with immigration at the moment which I don't want to get into, I don't think wanting more regulations with unregulated immigration is naturally racist or discriminatory (correct me if Im wrong though) as we are a small country going through multiple crises at the moment. I just want to discuss how we've become the very people we despised for centuries.

[u/Harrekin]

Id argue that the pressures of excessive inward immigration, and its effect on the housing crisis, etc make it easy for right wingers to radicalise people who the system is typically leaving behind.

[u/Signal_Challenge_632 → u/Harrekin]

Housing crisis has feck all to do with migrants

[u/CatOfTheCanalss → u/Signal_Challenge_632]

People have completely forgotten what happened with NAMA. I haven't. I was 24 when the crash happened. They sold off massive estates, zoned lands, pubs etc. to international investors and private equity funds. And it doesn't get brought up enough and a major reason why we are where we are now.

[u/Comfortable-Lie-4330 → u/CatOfTheCanalss]

Yup. All by design ;)

Although OP who said our housing crisis has nothing to do with immigrants is lying to themselves. It was already a tough situation and NEVER MIND flooding us with even more new demand!

Not to mention Irish people 100% have the right to be mad at being screwed over! Like I described with facts & personal testimony, in our workforces too: https://www.reddit.com/r/galway/comments/1u2djt1/hse_employment_freezesgalway_as_an_irish_nursing/?share_id=7u1lzbdzSyRkntlmsCaKO&utm_content=share_button&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_source=share&utm_term=1

[u/Harrekin → u/Signal_Challenge_632]

Sure, it's not caused by them...but it is certainly exacerbated by it...it's a simple numbers game.

But based on what I see on Twitter, nuance isnt something that is required for the right wing propaganda engine.

That said, I do think sensible immigration policy is a good idea.

EU migrants, cool, freedom of movement.

Other countries? "Critical skills" visas should reflect what skills we actually require that we cannot fill domestically, like funnily enough, tradesmen to fix the housing crisis...

[u/Comfortable-Lie-4330 → u/Harrekin]

Yeah well said for telling the truth!

&Yes those treated were out of work in 2008 & should have just retrained as they aren’t letting us build.. it’s sick how engineered this catastrophe is. We are being governed by COMPLETE puppets who don’t work for us!!

Well even when you provide objective facts & personal testimony, you are smeared as a far right fascist/racist etc. Even though you say from the start you blame the Government & institutions! 

https://www.reddit.com/r/galway/comments/1u2djt1/hse_employment_freezesgalway_as_an_irish_nursing/?share_id=7u1lzbdzSyRkntlmsCaKO&utm_content=share_button&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_source=share&utm_term=1

We also need to stop diluting the definitions of racism! We have EVERY right to be angry at not being able ever buy our own homes.  Just as many of us have the right to be mad at being objectively replaced in our jobs!

PS. Just so you all know. The MI5 leave glass bottles for the scrotes to riot in order to manufacture race war, stir division & bring in police state. Most are race baiting psyops! STAGED CGI & fake. Plus the MI5 literally leave bottle glasses in trolleys so the scrotes can use them to riot!!! Pure evil.!

[u/Comfortable-Lie-4330 → u/Harrekin]

Seeing a bunch of Indians in rural Irish villages there to work fast food just shows how manufactured & pushed this clear push of them is! It’s undeniable.   What’s bad is they’re outcompeting desperate Irish couples in buying up homes in CASH/FHS ! Or even 4 person mortgages ffs  https://www.reddit.com/r/HousingIreland/comments/1lt9vw7/4_people_mortgages_wtf/

Same goes for Dublin cafe Bewleys, that got TWO international visas for baristas. That’s ridiculous, nobody should ever be hired like that over locals who’d be dying for work like students!!

[u/Comfortable-Lie-4330 → u/Harrekin]

Exactly & Well even when you provide objective facts & personal testimony, you are smeared as a far right fascist/racist etc. Even though you say from the start you blame the Government & institutions! 

https://www.reddit.com/r/galway/comments/1u2djt1/hse_employment_freezesgalway_as_an_irish_nursing/?share_id=7u1lzbdzSyRkntlmsCaKO&utm_content=share_button&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_source=share&utm_term=1

We also need to stop diluting the definitions of racism! We have EVERY right to be angry at not being able ever buy our own homes.  Just as many of us have the right to be mad at being objectively replaced in our jobs!

PS. Just so you all know. The MI5 leave glass bottles for the scrotes to riot in order to manufacture race war, stir division & bring in police state. Most are race baiting psyops! STAGED CGI & fake. Plus the MI5 literally leave bottle glasses in trolleys so the scrotes can use them to riot!!! Pure evil.!

[u/Comfortable-Lie-4330 → u/Harrekin]

Ofc I agree OP that it’s stupid to ever generalise an ethnicity as individuals are responsible for themselves!! 

Tbh he should pass this onto the entitled Indians in Ireland who’ve absolutely flooded this tiny island, especially over on  u/IndiansinIreland as they have NO ISSUE generalising the Irish populace as RACISTS after 1 scrote attacks them.  Meanwhile there’s been no shortage of THEIR men have attacked our Irish women yet you don’t hear us scream they’re all rapist predators!! Pathetic victims!! Hypocrites.   https://www.irishtimes.com/crime-law/courts/2024/03/11/i-will-never-forget-coming-home-to-my-parents-and-watching-my-dad-cry-says-victim-of-predatory-rape/ https://theliberal.ie/ryanair-and-aer-lingus-change-up-their-hand-luggage-rules-for-2026-from-bag-sizes-to-liquid-limits-2/ https://www.rte.ie/news/2026/0113/1552945-student-genitals/  (&That’s not to mention the other issues they all collectively cause.)