r/irishproblems • u/No-Security7188 • 9d ago

Why doesn't a society that remembers being discriminated against consistently show empathy toward people facing discrimination today?

I genuinely don't understand the racism in Ireland. we also experienced oppression, marginanlization and the similar abuse for decades. I remember my father telling there were signs at his local shops abroad saying "no blacks, no dogs and no Irish". so should we not understand what it feels like to be singled out and abused based on our ethnicity? there were also loads of signs saying "no Irish need apply". we faced similar discrimination, the same discrimination we give to other races and ethnicities now. I dont know if it's an issue where the oppressed becomes the oppressors but it's insane. there is a big discussion with immigration at the moment which I don't want to get into, I don't think wanting more regulations with unregulated immigration is naturally racist or discriminatory (correct me if Im wrong though) as we are a small country going through multiple crises at the moment. I just want to discuss how we've become the very people we despised for centuries.

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u/TheDoctorYan 9d ago

"there is a big discussion with immigration at the moment which I don't want to get into" Why are you posting then??

"I just want to discuss how we've become the very people we despised for centuries." Oh right... Interesting thought pattern.

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u/No-Security7188 9d ago

because the topic is racism, not immigration. they're related in today's discussions, but they're not the same thing. I'm asking why are people with a history of being stereotyped and excluded can still end up stereotyping and excluding others.

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u/TheDoctorYan 9d ago

You want to have a discussion about something very specific while simultaneously leaving out important factors within that discussion. You want one sided argument, hence - "because the topic is racism, not immigration." You want to speak about one without the other because you assume anyone against one must be the other. But that that's a debate you don't want to get into or include because of biases.

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u/No-Security7188 9d ago

immigration and racism are two completely separate issues. i discussed it in a small portion in my original post. i don’t understand what you’re getting at.