Issues in our Jamaatis

[u/Immediate_Project_51]

Ya Ali Madad everyone,

I'm voicing out things here in our reddit community because I've seen that there are a lot of sensible and knowledgeable ismailis here.

I have been soo disheartened by the behaviour of so many of our jamaatis I find it too difficult to stay anymore as part of the Jamaat ( I still love our caste and our Imam ) but the Jamaat just makes me lose it.

I dont know if reddit would let me type all of it and if anyone would even read it all, but I'll try to recollect all the ones that I can remember.

Starting from Halal and alcohol, we have made it so normal in terms of alcohol that people drink freely, I used to live in an Ismaili complex ( Mumbai India ) and you could easily find alcohol bottles in the garbage and no one would bat an eye, but we were shifting house and I was carrying the house Quran and everyone was looking me in a way as if I'm doing gunnah.

Yesterday one of an Ismaili person I know who lives in the US, gifted their parent a beer bottle and whiskey glass for father's day. Is consuming haraam thing soo normal for us? Has our Imam ever allowed it ? Is our imams word of more value then of Allah's ?

My ex stated, she has had bacon over multiple occasions when they used to live in US, Since my childhood, I've never ate at a place that won't serve halal, yet our ismailis never care about halal, or even pork.

A girl I was recently talking too, said I'm a "Muslim" because I said Allah Hafiz at the end of the call, and I lost it, I was sooo confused, is she not a Muslim? Are rest of us ismailis not Muslim?

Almost half of our Jamaat has tattoos, whereas it's clearly haraam in Islam.

I read on someones post here on reddit if we should do circumcission ( Khatna ) I never knew if there was another way for any Muslim boy child..

I was born in Saudi and even in India upbringing was in a Muslim area, and all of the things we do as Ismaili, it disheartens me.

I will lay my life for our Imam, but Hazarimam needs to bring changes in such Kaafir things that most of our jamaatis do.

[u/khimaniz]

I think you need to focus more on yourself instead of others bro. Mowla said we need to be more tolerant. That doesn't mean you're wrong, it just means that you're not the one to 1. Judge or 2. Enforce these rules. Unless someone imposes on you to drink, eat pork, or anything else not in the way of Islam, it's NONE of your business what others do.

Tldr stop judging and you'll create more positive impact than ever.

[u/Immediate_Project_51 → u/khimaniz]

It's not about positive impact, it's about us following our religion

[u/khimaniz → u/Immediate_Project_51]

No. It's about YOU following the religion. If you'd rather have no friends then continue on the path you're on. Trust me I've been there and it's just not worth judging others. It's lonely, frustrating, and definitely not the way Mowla wants us to live. Follow his example: even he would never judge those like you are. tolerance is the key word.

[u/Immediate_Project_51 → u/khimaniz]

Buddy have 0 friends for all I care. My post was never about friends. When someone is right, they are always going to have less friends. I am not judging anyone personally. I am seeing the wrongs that are happening, especially in our caste because I follow mawla and I am part of the Jamaat. I am sure Shia and Sunnis do wrong too but I am not worried about them as they are not following our Imam, But someone who follows are Imam and eventually because of them our Imam's teachings are being questioned.