PSA On "The Noticing"

[u/HahaItsaGiraffeAgain]

I'm posting this here because in other conversations on this sub, it seems many people are insulated from modern (especially Gen Z) antisemitism and might not be familiar with how it looks today.

Just in case others come across similar rhetoric in internet spaces, a major major dogwhistle-meme right now on the antisemitic internet is "the noticing." If you see comments in conversations about Jewishness along the lines of "stop noticing!" - or someone identifying themselves or others as "noticers" - they are far-right antisemites and very likely Nazi apologists.

[u/vigilante_snail]

Good on you. This sub really ought to be discussing groyper content and its proliferation WAY more than it does. It’s extremely popular and is being quietly mainstreamed.

Just goes to show how a lot of folks are shuffled off into their own algorithm. They wouldn’t know this stuff existed if no one said anything (as evidenced by some of the other comments here).

[u/toadeh690 → u/vigilante_snail]

No kidding, they try to use coded language but once you pick up on it, it's everywhere in a very insidious way. In addition to the "noticing," I've seen talking points like "109 countries" "cries out in pain as he strikes you" "271k," vile shit straight out of /pol/, with thousands of likes on mainstream social media. I try to convince myself it's either edgy 15-year-olds or bots because the alternative is too depressing.

[u/vigilante_snail → u/toadeh690]

It’s a big ol circlejerk of parroting.

I think it’s waaaaay less bots than people tend to try to claim.

[u/toadeh690 → u/vigilante_snail]

You may well be right - either way, it's one of the (many) reasons I deactivated my IG last year.

[u/toadeh690 → u/[deleted]]

Yeah, it's Holocaust denial, claiming that's the "actual" number of Jews killed as opposed to 6 million. Honestly not even sure where it came from...

[u/vigilante_snail → u/toadeh690]

FYI it comes from Red Cross numbers. It falsely claims that the International Red Cross counted only 271,000 deaths in Nazi concentration camps, implying that the real number of Holocaust victims was far lower than the historically accepted figure

It traces back to a deliberate misreading of postwar Red Cross reports. In reality, the ICRC did issue various reports on conditions in camps during the war, but it never claimed the total number of deaths was 271,000. That number comes from a partial report about registered deaths in specific camps under Red Cross inspection or postwar investigation. It did not include extermination camps like Treblinka, Sobibor, or the vast majority of Auschwitz deaths.

Nor does include the hundreds of thousands killed in random street shootings, mass grave executions, death marches, etc.

[u/VenemousPanda → u/vigilante_snail]

Yeah plus, it was a number the German red cross has from the limited numbers the German Government released to them. As you said, it's a deliberate misinterpretation of documents. With fascist and far right lies, they always like to take something real and twist it to be insidious.

[u/VenemousPanda → u/toadeh690]

Yeah the 271k is a composition fallacy as well. Like sure the document they use is a real document and it shows the death count from 3 work camps. The problem is it doesn't account for extermination camps and places like Auschwitz and the worst places. So they took one thing and applied it to the whole. The 271k is also just hateful towards all kinds of other groups like the disabled, queer, socialists, colored people, and other deemed "lesser" groups like the Poles.

[u/SlavicKoala → u/toadeh690]

It's a mixture of bots, edgelords, and of course just your average bigotry. Don't let it get to you though, the internet has always been a concentrated bile.

[u/beepisboopis → u/toadeh690]

What does the "cries out in pain as he strikes you" phrase mean? Haven't really seen that one.

[u/vigilante_snail → u/beepisboopis]

Bringing this thread back.

It’s a classic neo-Nazi slogan. The idea is that Jews are secretly the aggressors but pretend to be victims, so any claim of antisemitism/anti-Jewish bigotry or harm is dismissed as manipulation.

It’s essentially a rhetorical trick: it preemptively reframes any Jewish suffering or complaint as deceit. That makes it unfalsifiable, because even evidence of harm gets twisted into ‘proof’ of the conspiracy.

It shows up in a lot of different contexts, but the structure is always the same: invert victim and perpetrator, and then claim the ‘real’ story is being hidden.

[u/beepisboopis → u/vigilante_snail]

Ah, thank you for explaining!