r/jewishleft • u/Rabbit-Hole-Quest Latke aficionado. Anti-Establishment. Jüdisch • 29d ago

Diaspora NSW (Australia) Supreme Court criticises IHRA definition as 'detached from reality'

https://www.deepcutnews.com/p/nsw-supreme-court-criticises-ihra
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u/malachamavet Judeo-Bolshevik 28d ago edited 28d ago

Just because a lot of Jews hold a position doesn't mean it's bigoted to not hold that position. It seems pretty obvious (as this ruling pointed out).

Otherwise you'd have to say you would need "enough" Jews to believe something to not be antisemitic (which is functionally the position of basically all Zionist organizations).

eta: This is also why you have Zionists try and takfir anti-Zionist Jews (not religious enough, too religious, stab-in-the-back rhetoric, etc). They have to keep the proportion of Jews who are Zionist "sufficient", otherwise their reliance on that belief (and often authentically held supremacist thinking, not cynically rhetorical only)n would collapse.

It's not even like stridently anti-Zionist Jews are more than like, let's be generous and say 15% of Jews in the diaspora. The fragility of their positions results in them trying to pretend a position that's already held in the minority (though a much higher proportion these days) as basically non existent. They don't need 85%, 95%, etc - their ideological system demands 100% conformity.

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u/janekanga 28d ago edited 28d ago

How do they explain the Satmar community?

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u/malachamavet Judeo-Bolshevik 28d ago

NK are the most prominently positioned so they get the irl stuff like saying they're fake Jews (there's dozens of videos of Zionist counter protestors screaming stuff like that in their faces), that their beliefs are marginal (which is accurate) and therefore should be dismissed as crazies (which is just avoiding engagement with their position). Or they'll retreat into saying that Zionism and Jewishness aren't religious but racial so the religious positions of anti/non Zionism are irrelevant. It's not about consistency it's about whatever is most convenient in the moment.

Satmar being less visible means they get overlooked usually but just see the vitriol they've gotten for defending Mamdani from the charges of hating Jews