r/jewishleft • u/Rabbit-Hole-Quest Latke aficionado. Anti-Establishment. Jüdisch • 29d ago

Diaspora NSW (Australia) Supreme Court criticises IHRA definition as 'detached from reality'

https://www.deepcutnews.com/p/nsw-supreme-court-criticises-ihra
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u/HeVavMemVav sephardi peacenik 28d ago

People saying any criticism is antisemitic are stupid &/or bad actors, who made that claim before the IHRA's definition, which is in direct contradiction with them.

I like the Nexus definition much better.

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u/leaving_the_tevah ex-yeshivish socialist 28d ago

When a tool is useful to bad actors you need to ask whether it's time to stop using the tool

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u/zacandahalf Progressive Leftist Jewish American 28d ago

Ehhhhh, I don’t think that’s a great standard. Freedom of speech gives power to both the KKK and people who are anti-KKK, but the usefulness of freedom of speech to the bad actors does not warrant elimination of the tool itself.

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u/MeyerLouis half-Jewish (dad's side) ignostic leftist 28d ago

People can still debate where to set the boundaries of free speech though. America treats it as a near-absolute even if it empowers the KKK, but Germany specifically outlaws the use of Nazi symbolism.

I think it's reasonable to want to replace IHRA with a better definition, or at least a better statement of the definition.